Originally Posted by Drats
But most uppers like Amphetamine
, Ephedrine etc. are raising the blood pressure, enhances the heart rate and make the veins tighter. So combined with Cannabis
this can also lead to circulatory collapse.
In the end, mixing anything can make the use more dangerous. It should allways be compared how they react in the body, if two kind of drugs
are combined, which make opposit effects in the body, this can allways lead to a collapse or in worst case to a stroke.
is pretty sure cannabis is a pretty mild vasodilator (widens and relaxes the blood vessels). He doesn't think cannabis's opposite effect is strong enough to let anything collapse unless maybe the veins have been weakened because of hardout
stimulant abuse first. Not 100% sure but the only info he could find on this suggests that stimulants
can cause vein damage in extreme cases and that cannabis can often be used to help this. Something SWIM concurs with, if he hadn't had plenty of weed
and a little alcohol
(also a vasodilator) he doesn't know what he would have done to deal with the pain of his 25mg DOC
trip (a very strong vasoconstrictor, dangerous above 15mg or so because of it).
And regarding cannabis while drunk, there are several factors.
The main reason to smoke first seems to be that once cannabis is in effect and it's anti-nausea power kicks in, it makes it relatively easy not to vomit. If swiy drinks moderately beforehand, and has a strong stomach, swiys are not likely to vomit when having a moderate session either, but being very drunk makes swiy more likely to take big tokes, and their fast and instant effect on the airways can hit the gag reflex. So if swiys are already very drunk, and take a hit, not feeling how huge it is, but the weed hasn't come up yet to protect swiy from feeling sick, welcome to nausea-town!
Swim finds when he is very drunk he can avoid feeling sick if he concentrates very hard on taking a very small toke, and then waiting till the airway/coughing/etc. effects have gone before having more.