Extraction - Extraction is slimy?

[CanadianFool]

I read on this site that someone has had a good experience with Ipomoea Alba and I did an extraction with cold water. It is very slimy and I was wondering if this was normal?

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I don't know how to edit posts.

I read over my post and noticed I said it is very slimy. Well in reality it is only somewhat slimy. It's only a tad bit more dense than water.

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Also, I just read that Ipomoea Alba seeds are poisonous. Is this true?

[Ally420]

I do not know about alba but in general ipomoea extracts are notoriously slimy.

And yes morning glory is generally considered at least mildly toxic (1) however some sources consider them major toxins (2).

1. http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/c...on/Ipomotr.htm (this source can be taken with a grain of salt tho since it claims that morning glory contains LSD when it only contains LSA, however some of the other egotine alkaloids present in ipomoea are considered more toxic than LSA itself producing more nausea and vomitting than anything else.)

2. http://www.plantsciences.ucdavis.edu...nt/Tox-COM.htm

[CanadianFool]

The article I read about Alba being poisonous says

"Their lush, large-leaved vines flourish in the direct sunlight that the blossoms avoid and can be grown anywhere their close relative, the Morning Glory, grows. And, though eating their seeds does not cause hallucinations like the Morning Glory’s seeds do, they are poisonous if ingested."

[Ally420]

Author: Raponda-Walker, A. & R. Sillans
Title: Les Plantes utiles du Gabon. Encyclopédie biologique. Editions Paul Lechevalier, 12 rue de Tournon, Paris VI, 478 p. (1961) Symptoms: H(173)
Recipes: H(173), ONS., RNS. Region: West Africa
Country: Gabon
Vernacular name: not registered by the investigators

This reference appears to be at least partly where that information originated.

Originally Posted by www.aluka.org

Entry for Ipomoea alba Linn. [family CONVOLVULACEAE] HOME /CONVOLVULACEAE /Ipomoea /alba


RepositoryRoyal Botanic Gardens, Kew (K)CollectionUseful Plants of West Tropical Africa Entry fromBurkill, H.M. 1985. The useful plants of west tropical Africa, Vol 1NamesCalonyction aculeatum House [family CONVOLVULACEAE]
Ipomoea alba Linn. [family CONVOLVULACEAE]
Common namesEnglish: moon-flower.
West African: NIGERIA EFIK ndiami (JMD) SIERRA LEONE KISSI k-panja-humdõŋ (FCD) kulukεnyσ? (FCD) KONO bayugsns (FCD) LIMBA bukbui a general name (JMD) MENDE bukbσ (def.-i) (GFSE; JMD) kpokpo general for Convolvulus (JMD) kpokpo-hina, hina: male (FCD) SUSU liti general for Ipomoea (NWT; JMD)
UsesFlower

• Agri-horticulture: ornamental, cultivated or partially tended

Leaf

• Food: general
• Medicines: tumours, cancers
• Phytochemistry: soap and substitutes

Leaf stem fruit

• Phytochemistry: alkaloids

Plant

• Medicines: antidotes (venomous stings, bites, etc.)
• Phytochemistry: miscellaneously poisonous or repellent; resins

DescriptionA prostrate or twining annual or perennial herb of secondary vegetation, native of tropical America, but now widely dispersed by man in the tropics, and recorded from Ghana to Nigeria in the Region.The flowers are large, white, tubular, opening at night, sweet-scented. The plant is commonly grown as an ornamental. The seeds are hard-coated and scarification gives better germination.The leaves are said to be sometimes eaten in Sierra Leone as a vegetable (Scott Elliot fide 2), a practice widely found in Asia (1). In Ghana the leaves give a soap-substitute and are used for bathing (3), and in S Nigeria they are used as a wash for headache (7). The plant is recognized as toxic in Gabon (8). Unnamed alkaloids have been detected in the leaves, stems, fruits and seeds (9), and a resin (6), but West African material is reported free of hallucinogenic indole alkaloids (4). Most parts of the plant serve in snake-bite medicines in India (1). The leaves are prepared into poultices in the Caribbean region for application to tumours (5).References

• 1. Burkill, 1935: 405, as Calonyction aculeatum House. 2. Dalziel, 1937. 3. Deakin 115, K. 4. Der Marderosian & Youngken, 1966. 5. Hartwell, 1968: as C. aculeatum (Linn.) House. 6. Sastri, 1950: 17, as C. aculeatum House. 7. Thomas, N. W. 1672, 2053 (Nig. Ser.), K. 8. Walker & Sillans, 1961: 135, as C. aculeatum House. 9. Willaman & Li, 1970.

[CanadianFool]

SWIM will probably just buy a few packs of regular Morning Glory today. SWIM has never got to the 100 seed dose and will probably ingest 200-300 seeds. Wish SWIM good luck!

[psychedelaholic]

Originally Posted by CanadianFool

SWIM will probably just buy a few packs of regular Morning Glory today. SWIM has never got to the 100 seed dose and will probably ingest 200-300 seeds. Wish SWIM good luck!

SWIM found that 10g of Heavenly Blue morning glory seeds crushed up and capsulated to be a really good strong dose must of been around 250-300 seeds. He got some nausea on the come up but kept it down. He then tripped out a lot, very very lsd like visuals probably equivalent to 125ug of LSD (this was a couple of years before SWIM got his hands on some LSD but now he has done acid loads of times he can make the comparison) SWIM did get mild arm and leg cramps but nowhere near as bad as he did on HBWR seeds.

SWIM saw the ceiling come alive with loads of worms, had posters talking to him, floor looking like it was made of liquid, stuff like that. It's like a lethargic, less intense, less head fucky version of LSD. Although SWIM tried it one more time at the same dose and tripped out loads again but then felt like he had been poisoned and when he went to sleep he was sure he wasn't going to wake up. Which is why SWIM never touches LSA anymore, only LSD which is SWIMs favorite drug.

[Ally420]

SWIM suggests that revea is by far the best choice. 5g ground and soaked in 1 glass of redwine over night produced excellent results. By far more palatable with less side effects than the other options SWIM has tried (MG, HBWR, Large HWR). Also the least slimy.