DOB

[Alfa]

DOB


2,5-DIMETHOXY-4-BROMOAMPHETAMINE


DOSAGE: 1.0 - 3.0 mg.

DURATION: 18 - 30 h.

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS: (with 0.4 mg) There was a distinct enhancement of visual perception, and some strengthening of colors. A clean, cold feeling of wind on the skin. I felt an enriched emotional affect, a comfortable and good feeling, and easy sleeping with colorful and important dreams.

(with 2.0 mg) There was a continuous tremor at the physical level, and an incredible Moebius strip representation of reality at the intellectual level. I was able to enter into personal problems easily, and get out again when I chose to. During the next day, there were brief lapses of attention, or little fugue states, and it was not until the following evening that I was completely myself again.

(with 2.8 mg) About three hours into this I had a severe cramp, and had a near fainting response to the pain, and yet there was no pain! I felt that I was very near a loss of consciousness, and this was most disturbing. There were flashes of depersonalization. I saw rings around the moon with prismatic colors, and there were long-lasting "after-images" following any viewings of points of light. I was still a good plus 1 at 14 hours, but did manage to sleep. It was the next day before I was again at baseline.

(with 3.0 mg) This was a complex, but a very good day. It involved making a large pot of chicken-vegetable soup, and listening to H.L., my favorite Saturday morning fundamentalist Christian radio preacher, bless Tim. The Democrats are not exactly all anti-American dupes of Moscow (or the Devil), but to H.L., they are practically, almost, next-door to it. The Rapture is supposed to happen tomorrow according to a certain book, newly published (just in time, looks like) and he is busy softening the possible disappointment of those who may find themselves unchanged Monday morning. Wunnerful. It's been one heck of a good experiment, and I can't understand why we waited nine years to try this gorgeous stuff. Without going into the cosmic and delicious details, let's just say it's a great material and a good level.

(with 0.5 mg of the "R" isomer) I am underway, and this is a smooth intoxication. I am completely functional, but still really a plus two. I would not choose to drive a car. Not very far. I felt a rather quick dropping to a plus-one at the fifth hour, but there is a residual stimulation still the following morning.

(with 1.0 mg of the "R" isomer) By the fourth hour I am absolutely a +++ and am searching the kitchen for food. But what I eat is only so-so. There is not the introspection or intensity of 2.0 milligrams of the racemate material, but this is a rewarding place nonethless. At the 18th hour, there was some fitful sleep, with bizarre dreams. The next day I was still hungry for altered spaces, and successfully challenged the residual plus one with LSD and, as is usually the case, acid cut right through the detritus and allowed a direct shot up to a +++ again.

(with 1.5 mg of the "R" isomer) This is a +++ but it is vaguely irrational. I feel a heavy body load, but then the temperature outside is over a hundred degrees and I may not be in the best of all physical environments. I would not wish any higher dosage. There were cat-naps at the twelth hour, but most symptoms were still there at the 18th hour. A good experience. It would be interesting to compare this, some day, with 3.0 milligrams of the racemate.

(with 0.5 mg of the "S" isomer) There are no effects at all.

(with 1.0 mg of the "S" isomer) There is something warm and nice at a couple of hours into this, but I am no more than threshold, and the effects are very slight. By the fifth hour there are no longer any effects.

EXTENSIONS AND COMMENTARY: The stars had clearly lined up in favor of making DOB and exploring its biological activity. This preparation had been completed in 1967 and the report of this compound and its unprecedently high potency published in 1971. And very shortly, two additional papers appeared completely independently. One described DOB made via a different route, and describing high activity in rats. The other described DOB and a couple of closely related brominated amphetamines and their action in man.

This is one of the last of the experimental compounds within the phenethylamine family on which any animal toxicity studies were performed by me prior to human studies. A mouse injected with 50 mg/Kg (ip) showed considerable twitching and was irritable. Another, at 100 mg/Kg (ip), had overt shaking at 20 minutes, which evolved into persistent hyperactivity that lasted several hours. Yet another, at 125 mg/Kg (ip), lost much of her righting reflex within 15 minutes, entered into convulsions at 50 minutes, and was dead a half hour later. A fourth mouse, at 150 mg/Kg (ip), entered into spontaneous convulsions within 10 minutes, and expired in what looked like an uncomfortable death at 22 minutes following injection. What was learned? That the LD/50 was somewhere between 100 and 125 mg/Kg for the mouse. And an effective dose in man of maybe 2 mg (for an 80 Kg man) is equivalent to 25 ug/Kg. Therefore the index of safety (the therapeutic index, the lethal dose divided by the effective dose) is well over a thousand. I feel that two mice were killed without anything of value having been received in return.

Actually, it is very likely that the damaging, if not lethal, level of DOB in man is a lot lower than this ratio would imply. There was a report of a death of a young lady following the snorting of an amount of DOB so massive, there was the actual recovery of over nine milligrams of the drug from her body tissues in the post-mortem examination. It was said that she and her companion had thought that the drug they were using was MDA and, taking a dosage appropriate for this, effectively overdosed themselves. He survived, following convulsions and an extended period (several weeks) of being in a comatose state. Tragic examples have been reported that involve arterial vascular spasm. But in most overdose cases ascribed to DOB, the identity of the drug has remained unestablished.

[geordinio]

wahey !!!!!!!!





DOb all the way

[wizard warior]

thats a pretty narly sounding od at the bottom of the report,enough to make you want to not dable with that oneor anyothers for that matter

[dr ACE]

Originally Posted by Alfa

DOB


2,5-DIMETHOXY-4-BROMOAMPHETAMINE


Actually, it is very likely that the damaging, if not lethal, level of DOB in man is a lot lower than this ratio would imply. There was a report of a death of a young lady following the snorting of an amount of DOB so massive, there was the actual recovery of over nine milligrams of the drug from her body tissues in the post-mortem examination. It was said that she and her companion had thought that the drug they were using was MDA and, taking a dosage appropriate for this, effectively overdosed themselves. He survived, following convulsions and an extended period (several weeks) of being in a comatose state. Tragic examples have been reported that involve arterial vascular spasm. But in most overdose cases ascribed to DOB, the identity of the drug has remained unestablished.

this RC and its closely related analogues, is extremely potent and should defiantly not be abused in any manner,like many ampethamines are.its a scary thought to think of what could happen if it was produced on a massive scale and managed to get into the hands of the many un-experienced and 'macho' drugs users out there.who would More than likely damage or kill themselves and many others.

just shows you the power in these chemicals they deserve a hell of allot of respect.theres so many incredibly powerful substances that the general public has no idea about,and look at the problems simple things like opiates, cocaine and there derivates cause, crazy

[renegades]

Swim likes DOB. Similar to DOC, the experience differs in that the visually its less colorful, but is more visually stimulating with more hallucinations of objects morphing and shifting. Swim did not experience any body load with DOB, even though some other swims have complained about it. This swim prefers it over DOC and DOI just because the visuals are more entertaining.

[snow child]

Dob is good. Swim thinks that it is the best of all the Dox compounds.
light on the body load and the visuals are the best of the Dox's.
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"Americans the new ginna pigs"

[Nagognog2]

Bongo hated DOB. Pure agitated borderline anxiety-attack from start to finish. Yet he's seen others have wonderous and serene cosmic journeys on this. And seen people clinging to the top of a pine tree on the northern coast of Maine in a winter wind-storm to get away from it! Seems the jury remains utterly divided.

And the same can be said for the other DOx molecules. Some love 'em. Some hate 'em. And I know one person who never came back from a large dose of STP (DOM) and finally jumped off a 12th story rooftop.

If experience says anything about these, it's that a small dosage seems to have the highest potential of eliciting a favorable reaction. Whereas jumping in head-first with a large dose is the most likely to cause people to go climb a tree. Regardless of the DOx at hand.

[renegades]

Yep, the more swim does dob the better he likes it and the better it treats him. Unlike DOC, which became boring pretty quickly with its pastel colors that seem to twinkle every where. DOB highs seem to be different everytime Swim does it. If it is your first time just do 2mg, but swim here trys more like 5mg and a six pack of beer at the local bar. This drug makes one very sociable and swim still has not had a body load bad experience after tripping on it for at least 10 times. Where is this body load everyone is talking about because swim missed it. However, you do feel drained when you wake up the next day, but that is about it with a hangover. Swim still likes DOC and DOI but given the choice swim's pick is DOB. Though swim has not tried DOM. Which, from reading, seems to be the best of the DOxs when it comes to visuals. Probably will never find out

[nonlinear]

SWIM did DOB severl times back in the mid-90s. SWIM beleives that it came in a pill form and he is unsure of the dosage, but he says thdrug. In those days he had access to many types of LSD, ecstacy, mushrooms, meth, etc., and being young used these VERY heavily. DOB topped anyhing he had ever done.

He can't really remember what the effects were like, except that it was a very intense body trip. He remembers one trip in particular where he was laying on a bed with his friend, under a large/hot down comforter, wearing a t-shirt, hoody, and big pants. He thinks remembers layning under there for about 2 or 3 hours, with his eyes closed just tripping out (not sure if he had passed out or not). Eventually he could make out the voice of his best friend who had since arrived, and made his way from the covers. he was convered in swaet and remembers his best friend saying "wow, he is fucked up."

SWIM has met very people since those days who have even heard of DOB, and he wants to find out more information on it. anone have any good references?

[nanobrain]

experiential consensus seems to rank as follows: DOC>DOI>DOB while the intellectual component trends DOI>DOC>DOB with DOB taking the 1st place from the other end on both occasions. those on DOB exibit distinctly different behaviour patterns than those on the other DOs, anxiety and fine motor tremor being the primary visible components, if you dont count the projectile vomiting.

[Nagognog2]

DOB was a one-hit wonder with psychiatrists when it first was synthesized and distributed to them in the 1960's. A few wrote a short paper on their findings with A PATIENT. Then it vanished. Later outlawed here in the US. DOM was more popular as a potential therapeutic agent. This after the STP/DOM fiasco. That should tell you something: Most people never want to see DOB a second time.

[waxhorse]

So, one day...I had gotten some Bob and some time off...Woot! Swim doses about 2 migs and rode around with his Pop (Who had no clue!) to get prices on sheet metal.

What a day! Boy, Swim says that stuff lasts long time and beer doesn't dent it at all.

Anorexic? Yes! Gas? Yes! Visual field distrubed by pulsating monkeys tapping away at typewriters on their quest to write novel novels? Yes!

You have to be both Gonzo and Dedicated.

WH

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