5-meo-dmt vs salvia

[QGdoxl]

which is more powerfull?

I mean is the 5-meo as scary as salvia is? is it more out of this world type?



my friend has tried salvia and is thinking about the 5-meo-dmt.
He don't dislike sally but some have told him they peerfer dmt or 5-meo
because itis not as scary or dark. Does anyone else find
this? Are they even compareable? I'd like to be able to
inform my friend best I can


Also I have heard that snorting it is a little easier enterance to
the 5-meo world, because you are not blasted right there is this
true?



Thanks

Q


Edited by: QGdoxl

[QGdoxl]

no one?

[transit]

Swim posted a few days ago about his first
experience with dmt, and made some comments comparing dmt and salvia. While it isn’t on 5-meo-dmt, you might still
find it of interest, especially since no one else seems to be answering.

[lilsteve]

although i've never tried 5-meo-dmt, the experiences i've read have
been hit and miss, good and bad. my personal experience with salvia is
that most of my trips have been either very scary or very weird. if i
were to smoke 5-meo-dmt, i would face it with the mindset that yes, i
could have a positive experience, whereas with salvia, i would think
that regardless of how scary it is, it's a growing experience.

was that too confusing?

[genaro]

5meodmt, dmt and salvinorine(salvia)are all completely "out of this world"


I guess the only substances that could be that much out of this world are substances producing OBE's and NDE'slike dissociatives (K-hole or high 4th plateau dxm doses)...but these are less intense/mind blowing, and I also think thesehave amuch less spiritual/natural feeling.Edited by: genaro

[enquirewithin]

You can smoke 5 MEO DMT on salvia-- quite inetresting. Not too much though!

[douglasase3]

5-meo-dmt and salvia, in my opinion are not similar at all. From my experiences, salvia feels more like a disassociative antistetic, while 5-meo-dmt is more of a true psychedelic. There are two different routes of administration of 5-meo-dmt. Smoked in freebase form, and taken orally with a maoi inhibitor. The oral method will produce the greatest effects, last longer, but do present some body discomfort, such as nausau. That will usually pass within the first hour. My first post here, although I do belong to many other forums around the net. Hope to meet some new friends here, and be able to share my knowledge and experiences with the rest of the community. Happy Trails!

[raven3davis]

Welcome to the forums man. I agree with you that salvia feels like a dissociative anistetic. Have you ever snorted 5-meo-dmt? If so, did you like it more than smoking or eating?

[Marsofold]

Hey Raven, empty out your personal messages. You are maxed out and cannot receive any...Mars

[douglasase3]

raven3davis, if using an maoi, snorting can be a worthwhile exploration. Without the aid of an maoi, I've found the effects very minimal. For me, smoking has been the best route of administration regarding 5-meo-dmt. Ingestion with an maoi is wonderful, but as we all know, it carries some body load and nausau. However, after that first hour, everything is grand!

[billbong]

both are fukin crazy. i mean really if they were unwilling i i wouldn't wish either substance on my worst enemy, well i wld but most ppl wldn't. dmt is more "intense" (overall) if 5-meo-dmt is class a dmt and sally shld b class b. acid + xtc shld be class x, or w or suminc (scuse me imfuked.

[greg888]

Originally Posted by douglasase3

raven3davis, if using an maoi, snorting can be a
worthwhile exploration. Without the aid of an maoi, I've found the effects
very minimal. For me, smoking has been the best route of administration
regarding 5-meo-dmt. Ingestion with an maoi is wonderful, but as we all
know, it carries some body load and nausau. However, after that first
hour, everything is grand!*

Wow, I've never heard of anyone using an MAOi and 5meodmt and
actually liking the experience. Ive never tried the combo and with
everything I've read about it I definently won't. I highly suggest that
anyone thinking about this combination look at the contradiction section

It describes some disturbing physical reactions and even a possible death. Please be
careful!

[douglasase3]

greg888, I in no way am suggesting for anyone to do this unless they have done their research. Yes, there is some necessary information that needs to be studied before someone should attempt such an exploration. Certain foods and various medications can cause severe side effects with maoi's. So please, anyone who is reading this thread, please do your research! I'm sorry that I threw that out there in the open forum. I had made an assumption that most members reading this thread, were familiar with the use and risks associated the use of an maoi and tryptamines. Please forgive me for making such an assumption. D

[QGdoxl]

would 8-10 salvia trips help prepare someone for a 5-meo experience?

Th effects are short lived like salvia correct? WIth salvia I
tend to fall off into a dreamlike state which is where my trip takes
place, almost making it like a dream rather than a trip. Does
5-meo have these effects or are you alert and awake?

[lilsteve]

swim wouldnt think that anything other than 5-meo-dmt could prepare you for 5-meo-dmt

[douglasase3]

lilsteve, you are correct sir! If one has never had any experience with any type of tryptamine, there is no way of "preparing" yourself. Small elements of a tryptamine experience can be compared to other substances, but the experience as a whole can't be compared to anything else. All I can say is read as much as you can about trip reports on 5-meo-dmt, measure your dosages accurately, and take your time. 5-meo-dmt has a very small dosing curve. Just 2mg can change ones experience dramatically! No joke! Please, first timers, gain as much knowledge as possible before your first attempts with this one.