Experiences - Eating mushrooms while withdrawing - Anyone have info? (also, DXM while sick?)

[dyingtomorrow]

SWIM was wondering if anyone has ever tried eating mushrooms while in withdrawals, or if they know anyone who has. Does it make them tolerable and kill some time? Is it a horrible idea?



SWIM asks because one time he tripped on mushrooms the night of the last heroin shot he had. He had no money or way to get it, so he knew he was going to be sick. SWIM had been shooting heroin for about 3 years straight at that point, and would normally start going into withdrawals about 8 - 12 after his last shot (severe cravings; eyes, nose and mouth pouring water non-stop; extreme hot and cold flashes; naseau; aches - but not full on spasming, kicking and screaming withdrawals).

Anyways around 36 hours later SWIM was extremely surprised that he still wasn't having withdrawal symptoms. He didn't ride the experiment out and ended up taking a suboxone, but was still very curious about why it happened.

So SWIM asks: Anyone know what happens if you shroom while in withdrawals? What about doing a DXM trip?

Thanks everyone.

[ODB]

Try iboga.

[dyingtomorrow]

Originally Posted by ODB

Try iboga.

Yeah SWIM knows all about it (it's not a mushroom btw) ... doubt SWIM ever get enough money together to go to one of those clinics in Mexico or Canada - and if SWIM did, he would just spend it on heroin. Thanks for the thought and for contributing though.



Anyways, for future posters - SWIM is talking about regular hallucinogenic mushrooms in this thread and does not really want to make this another Iboga discussion.

Gracias

[Wallet]

SWIM is a little surprised that shrooms would help with WDs. Although, SWIM can say that while on shrooms SWIM has a high tolerance to pain and her muscles take longer to get burnt out while doing physical activity. In this way H is the same way so maybe that has something to do with it?

[Junkhead23]

Pacman found this for SWIY DT

He had heard that DXM has been used to combat withdrawals and it seems that it is fairly effective

DXM, as well as other dissociatives, seems to prevent and even reverse tolerance to (and thus physical addiction to) many drugs. In the case of opiates, DXM has been used to treat withdrawal symptoms (169). DXM plus diazepam (ValiumTM) was tested and found to be more effective at combating the symptoms of heroin withdrawal (goose flesh, tremors, pupil dilation, joint pains, etc.) than chlorpromazine (ThorazineTM) plus diazepam (34). A further study verified this and found that adding tizanidine (an alpha-2 adrenergic agonist) to the DXM+diazepam cocktail was even more effective (133).

Dissociatives have also been found to reverse or prevent tolerance to cocaine (247), nicotine (249), and alcohol (232), and some researchers have suggested that DXM (and other NMDA antagonists) may be universally useful in most if not all drug addictions.

[Dicemanstyle]

2 words.

FUCK THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dicemanstyle added 6 Minutes and 22 Seconds later...

sorry not very constructive. And I apologise for the double post. I cant find the edit post button.

Ive used ACID a few times to help with H addiction, but only after Wds have ended. I was trying to FIND my way , any other way, but still got led back here again. Anyways, NO way would I take any psychedelics whilst in wds. Its a recipe for disaster. As for the DXM thing, I heard they can help. But seriously there is NO magic cure. The most effective way I have ever detoxed without wds hardly is using 130ml of methadone over 10 days, then 8mg of subutex over 10 days. Also some benzos, alchohol, THC, immodium, paracetamol and high doses of vitamin C. I had no H for 1 month with NO wds what so ever. And id been shooting about 2gr a day for about 2 yrs non stop.

Anyways hope that helps. Good luck. And if you find a miracle cure please be sure to let me know!!!!

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Watch self-incrimination. Talk about a friend of a friend, a pet, a dream, a crazy unicorn, etc

[drug-bot]

while in withdrawls swim and a lady friend tried to trip on dxm after reading on various places on the net it helped. for both the dxm did nothing in the way of reducing withdrawl symptoms, all it did was produce 2 tripped out sick junkies.

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Thanks, personal experience is the most useful here

[Esmerelda]

Swie's been using DXM (among other things) for the last few days while withdrawing. It definitely helps. She uses it mainly at night along with diphenhydramine, as it makes for a slightly more restful night (even if sleep isn't acheived).

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a good personal account.

[Benway]

My guinea pig thought at one time the idea of mushroom and wd was horrifying.

Piggy's now told me it kinda helps, and she done it about 12hrs after her last h shot, although she said not to get too tripped out, and she felt safer with a few benzo's and another good piggy pal. She felt she only needed a small dose of benzo at onset. Saved the rest for pleasant sleepy bed time... she then went on to say that doing it at home alone is very unwise as she said it can be easy to get fixated on something a bit negative.
She believes it to be far more constructive way to use as a final hit of h, if yr quitting rather than offsetting until the next hit, as it can loose its 'power' if used a lot for low h times... ohh, and re; leg cramps, not to sit down for long periods, or spend it all indoors. Go out and roam, do it happy hippy style, not at clubs or raves, get out and remember how beautiful the world can be. See the parks and the sunshine with bright mushy eyes rather than pinned h eyes. Smell the flowers, walk on the grass... she said not to do any grass though, she found it too much, best stick to dandelions and lettuce. She squeaked that it felt like a wake up call, really positive exp.

For some reason she felt acid + wd not very good, don't kno why, kinda unpleasant.

Ultimately, it won't stop wd, but it can give yr a hell of positive start to quitting it.

She squeaked to me that if yr the type who don't normally get on wi' mushie type stuff and tend to freak on it then it probably wont work, I said that's obvious, she then refused squeak any more after that...

The dog thinks DXM has an opiate type connection and has heard it helps, but he don't kno much about it but he told me that piggy is seriously thinking of quitting with mush, and my pets, tho dumb, are very honest & serious little critters, except for the fish who just talk shit...

[olddirtycr]

to SWIM taking acid for the first time while withdrawing wasn't too pleasant.

Mainly because in addition to acid making it hard to sleep after, you have withdrawels making it extra hard to sleep.

So SWIM laid their writhing in pain while being unable to sleep and thinking fucked up thoughts. This went till about noon, then SWIM decided to fuck it all and score some OxY.

Whenever SWIM tries to get through WD with stimulants, SWIM ends up coming down really hard and just going back to the opiates.

SWIM can't comment on mushrooms but SWIM can't imagine that tripping and being mid WD would be fun at all. SWIM would imagine anxiety and paranoia would be amazingly high and the WD symptons would mess with the hallucinations probably causing a bad trip.

[EyesOfTheWorld]

Monkey is a heroin/polyopiate addict and very experienced tripper. He can say that FOR HIM, MDMA, LSD, DXM and mushrooms will not make the sickness go away, but they will distract a sick person for a while, focusing them on something other than their illness. This may not work for those without extensive experience with hallucinogens, a neophyte trip during heroin wd could be terrifying. It is also a good idea to have benzos or alcohol close by.

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Interesting and good information on how it can provide a distraction

[xxdan123xx]

WOW tripping a w.d's not a good idea at all. Swim ate some shrooms while withdrawling a while back to see if it could give him the motivation to quit or something. Well swiyou will be up all night thiinking about every terrible thing swiyou have ever done and it all seems so much worse and much more hopeless. And this wasn't even a bad trip he enjoyed the mojority of it but once they started to wear off was when things got bad. He Followed up by rolling (Extacy) the next day to keep his mind away from dope and... well he went about 72hrs total wide awake tripping or rolling or w.d.ing and it was terrible. He just wanted to sleep and so the next day he was back on the stuff. Oh ya and a night of coke in there somewhere as well

[oldbulllee]

well, swim has taken a small dosage ( 1,5 gr) of cubensis in acute, but frankly not too severe WDs. it helped a LOT. swim was felling GOOD for next 13 hours. now , it's likely that psilocybin would cause unparalleled horror in heavy WDs , but for swims light to medium symptoms it did magic. anyways, swim wouldn't recomend it, any swiy is doing it on his own responsibility.

[sickboy420]

completely agree with dicemanstyle withdrawls and trippin dont mix... swim has wanted to die trippin on 2ce while withdrawling...and dam near been hospitalized while taking ex while withdrawling...nothin replaces a fix....benzos and a few other things help... but the only thing that fixes opiate withdrawls are more opiates..or time

[helene]

Swim can't think of anything worse than tripping whilst rattling.

Opening your subconscious up to any weird, frightening or disturbing thought that feels like coming your way is one thing when you're feeling alright, but to so this when you're ill, fuck that...Think of all those uncomfortable, edgy feelings you get when you're rattling, combine this with all those uncomfortable edgy feelings you get when coming up on a halucinogen...nasty combination.

Can't think of anything worse.

Swim has accidentally ended up rattling whilst on mushrooms once before - it wasn't very nice at all. She has also ended up ill after taking some ketamine, this was even worse. As most addicts will know, it's very obvious when you're starting to get ill. Whilst on the above substances, it wasn't, in that swim couldn't work out exactly what was wrong, just knew something was very wrong, but for quite a while couldn't put her finger on what it was, or (more to the point) how to stop it.

Obviously, different strokes for different folks and all that, but for swim, no thanks.

H