the value of man

[Dexy Mcfukfuk]

how does that bible story go?
The one about that chick who is chained down and a buncha people
are gonna throw rocks at her. Then jesus sais something along the
lines of, whoever has committed no sin shall cast the first rock.
Soemthing like that.


This story has one obvious meaning, that we can not condemn her
because we have done wrong ourselves. But i have doubts as to
whether that is true or not. Because, we all know that murderers
have done wrong and even if we have all sinned at some point, we
still have the right to condemn what the murderer has done.

I think that there is another meaning in this story. One that teaches
a fundamental equality among man. IF man was born with intrinsic
values, meaning that some people were "better" then others, that
would mean that there must be a perfect standard from which to
compare each individual man. Or one could judge it's effeciency in
completing its designed purpose. But since we as men know not of
what our designed purposes are, we must use the previous
techniquie, comparing to some perfect standard.

The only perfect standard that i can think of for which to judge men
by is God. Man was designed after God, and God is the epitome of
perfection, therefore the best way to judge whether one man is
"better" then another is to determine which one is more "godly" then
the other. Unfortunately without an intrinsic knowledge of the exact
nature of God, it seems that this is impossible to do. One must be
born with an apriori knowledge of this nature of God, because this
nature is not something that is possible to be learned.

But who would have knowledge of teh exact nature of God, and how
would we know who this is?

Well, lets look back at that bible story, it seems that the man who
has commit no sin is the one who can justly throw a rock at this
woman. To throw the rock at the woman would be to judge her as
so lowly in value as a human that it is just for her to be killed. To
determine this lowly value one must have the aforementioned
knowledge of the exact nature of God. Therefore, the one who has
the knowledge of the exact nature of God is the one who has
commited no sin in their lifetime. And this would make sence, for all
of the sins explicitly stated in the bible were basicly, love thy
neighbor (fellow man) and do variations of do unto otehrs as you
would have done to you. But these are very hard to live by, because
frankly sinning is fucking sweet, and though we all agree that
harming our fellow man is wrong, when the time comes for us to
gain advantage by doing so, not many of us will say no. The only
one who would say no to this fun oportunity would be someone with
an intrinsic knowledge of Right and Wrong, which is to say an
explicit knowledge of the nature of God.

So, if one is religious, it seems that the only person who is capable
of judging one man better then the other is the man who has no
committed and sin, to the best of my knowledge, is Jesus. Which
explains why he is the one who judges us come apocolypse.


Keep in midn though that this is only christian scripture, i personaly
tend to follow these teachings because even whent he theological
element is removed, they still teach some very good life lessons.

[uqlfy]

I am famaliar with this parable. The men of teh village had
caught the woman in the act of adultry. The punishment for which was
death by stoning. Now these men thought that they had jesus by the
shorthairs so to speak. Here was a criminal caught redhanded.

Well jesus said to these men that the one among them without sin should
cast the first stone. The oldest among them was the first to walk
away.(wonder why ) Once all had
departed he asked the woman if she had done what the men said. She said
she did. He told her to go and do this sin no more.

I interpet this to mean simply that it is in our nature to "sin"
and that once you admit to what youve done and do it no more then your
forgiven.

IMO too many people place too much meaning into things that are meant to convey but a clear simple message.

[Nicaine]

I'm gonna go on the thread title only, and ignore the religious stuff. IMO, man has no more value than any other living creature -- flat playing field. Possibly less because he's overrunning the planet and destroying it.

Man's brain size matters not a damn except to him. If anything, a big brain might be maladaptive and destructive because it enables stuff like inventing weapons of mass destruction and such, and enables the destruction of other species. Nature may have made a very serious error that she is preparing to correct...Edited by: Nicaine