Drug info - 2C-C

[Alfa]

DOSAGE: 20 - 40 mg.

DURATION: 4 - 8 h.

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS: (with 20 mg) This is longer lived than 2C-B, and there is a longer latency in coming on. It took an hour and a half, or even two hours to get there. It had a slight metallic overtone.

(with 24 mg) I was at a moderately high and thoroughly favorable place, for several hours. It seemed to be a very sensual place, but without too much in the way of visual distraction.

(with 40 mg) There were a lot of visuals--something that I had noted at lower levels. There seems to be less stimulation than with 2C-B, and in some ways it is actually sedating. And yet I was up all night. It was like a very intense form of relaxation.

EXTENSIONS AND COMMENTARY: Other reports mention usage of up to 50 milligrams which seems to increase yet further the intensity and the duration. I have one report of an intravenous administration of 20 milligrams, and the response was described as overwhelming. The effects peaked at about 5 minutes and lasted for perhaps 15 minutes.

The halogens represent a small group of atoms that are unique for a couple of reasons. They are all located in a single column of the periodic table, being monovalent and negative. That means that they can be reasonably stable things when attached to an aromatic nucleus. But, being monovalent, they cannot be modified or extended in any way. Thus, they are kind of a dead end, at least as far as the 2C-X series is considered. The heaviest, iodine, was explored as the phen-ethylamine, as 2C-I, and as the amphetamine as DOI. These are the most potent. The next lighter is bromine, where the phenethylamine is 2C-B and the amphetamine is DOB. These two are a bit less potent, and are by far the most broadly explored of all the halides. Here, in the above recipe, we have the chlorine counterpart, 2C-C. There is also the corresponding amphetamine DOC. These are less potent still, and much less explored. Why? Perhaps because chlorine is a gas and troublesome to handle (bromine is a liquid, and iodine is a solid). The fluorine analogue is yet harder to make, and requires procedures that are indirect, because fluorine (the lightest of all the halides) is not only a gas, but is dangerous to handle and does not react in the usual halogen way. There will be mention made of 2C-F, but DOF is still unexplored.

The treatment of the 2C-B phthalimide described above, with cuprous cyanide rather than cuprous chloride, gave rise to the cyano analog which, on hydrolysis with hydrazine, yielded 2,5-dimethoxy-4-cyanophenethylamine (2C-CN). Hydrolysis of this with hot, strong base gave the corresponding acid, 2,5-dimethoxy-4-carboxyphenethylamine, 2C-COOH. No evaluation of either of these compounds has been made in the human animal, as far as I know.

[hh339]

I tried this compound a while ago, and it really sucked bigtime. I could not sleep or take a piss for almost 24 hours. I did notnotice any positive effects.

[wizard warior]

yea i too noticed negative effect with this compound.it was kind of heavy feeling and struggling to accomlish simple tasks.so overall i did not like it much atall,it did have visuals but nothing much.

[Ximot]

Well, I really enjoyed my one time trip with it.





I took it 2 or 3 times at below-threshold doses (anything upo to, I'd say, 6-9mgs, eyeballed out of a 100mg bag), hoping to achieve effects, but - nada.





So I went for the big one and used my scales to measure out a decent dose (around 30 mgs or so , I cannot remember exactly), and I had a fabulous time. Slow come up, then a forest walk, very nice visuals with the trees, pleasant acoustic enhancement, and fairly insightful without at any time being pushy. Got over-excited a few hours later, when I felt like it might be slowly subsiding, and instead of grounding myself, I topped up with about 15 mgs more. At 11pm (it had been a daytime trip), of all things. Result was, of course, tiredness along with more visuals, and total insomnia and some discomfort in the liver area.


My verdict: very pleasant if one knows one's dosage and will not top up in a moment of getting carried away with its plesant physical+mental effects.





What I like about it is how it puts me inside my body, not unlike 2c-b. 2c-i does not seem to do this for me so much.

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[Lynchx]

I hated 2C-C when I tried it was nothing like 2ci or 2cb

[enquirewithin]

I like 2C-C. It's so relaxing. Visuals with without anxiety!

[GDxCAT]

Anyone else have anything to add about 2c-c?

I

will be experimenting with this one soon. I plan to start at 40-50mg but eventually plan to work my dose up to 80-100mg.



I have heard from a couple people already that at high doses (above
shulgins recomendation) this one gets really psychedelic. On par with
things like 2c-e, mushrooms, LSD etc.



So anyone here have experiences with high dose 2c-c? How was it?



Nano, i know you have had adverse reactions to 2c-c at low doses
aswell? Do you have low tolerance to all 2c's or was this one a special
case?

[Nagognog2]

You can find what happened to Bongo with 2-CC if you UTFSE. It's around here someplace, along with a bunch of others.

[GDxCAT]

Nag, as a moderator would you be able to combine all the threads
pertaining to 2c-c and make 1 giant thread? This would make it easier
to search for, and could be a helpful reference for noob's.

We should actually do this for all of the popular rc's.



If you need help gathering all the threads that are related im more than willing to help.

[Nagognog2]

Ask nano. I don't have mod functions in here. He could go trolling and merge them - if you bribe him!

[Toltec]

I loved it when i tried 2C-C last year, at alow dose like 20mgs. It is very easy on the body and friendly too. It's good for a night on the town. At higher doses like 50mgs it gets more visual and is still easy on the body. Its not treatening or overwhelming whatsoever.


I have read at Bluelight, that 60, 80, and 100mg will change the trip into a very visual one. As always you should work your why up if your planing on jumping in the deep end of the psychedelic pool.


Cheers

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[glogga]

I found 2c-c very intriguing. However, around 50mg I start to get a headache, and a general toxic feeling, so I haven't gone higher.

[Pinkavvy]

swim has had very good experiences with 2c-c lately. 30mg seems to be an ideal dose for swim. very colorfully visual, with no bodyload whatsoever.Edited by: pinkavvy

[Nagognog2]

Seems that, in the last analysis, 2-CC is one of those molecules where the reactions are all over the map: From utter bliss and joy, to puking and swearing 'never again, Lord!'


Start low and go slow - until you find out where on the map you are.

[radiometer]

My wife and I like 2C-C a lot, with doses in the 30-35mg range - I haven't
tried anything higher, but likely will at some point. I enjoy the multi-
hued clockwork visuals, have found it pretty easy on the body, and have
occasionally been granted valuable psychedelic insights about the
process of experiencing things.Edited by: radiometer

[blue jammer]

I tried this 2 weeks ago, and did 40mg

At the same time, a friend also did 40mg and whilst I found it to be just 'average' and not very visual at all. She found it to be REALLY visual, the ceiling morphing and breathing lots, closing in and making shapes etc.

I only noticed slight movement in the ceiling, and thought it would get more intense, but didn't.

I've yet to experience anything fully visual though, apart from a time on 2-ci after lots of beers, so I'm hoping to try this again soon at a higher dose of 50mg or 60mg.

[Nagognog2]

You might be advised to have your monkeys stick with 2-CI - if you are seeking visual effects in his optical cortex. Could be your ape is one of many where 2-CC almost does it and would require a dose that borders into toxic to get there.

[nanobrain]

i'm in the puking and swearing camp after my one and only 24mg trip, posted on Erowid, BL etc.

although some day when the vessel is purer, in the valleys with the mountains....

[snapper]

Best dose about 50 mg, but SWIM is of the dose can't quite get high
enough to get you there camp. 2c-c has always seemed to fall short for
SWIM. Potential seems just out of reach. Minimal body load, though, and
relatively happy high. SWIM prefers 2C-E overall.

Snapper

[oldman]

swims tried 2cc several times from 20 to up to 50-60mgs. he never has seen oev's like he has with ct2 or ci but claims the euphoria is pretty nice. it has a light body load although it can make you feel so relaxed you are bordering on the drowsy side as you come up he says. then the drowsiness subsides. sleep after several hours has not presented as much problems as ci or ct2 have. music sounds good and sex definitely seemed enhanced. redosing at the 2-3 hour point has shown to be of some benefit but probably may contribute to more insomnia.

He does agree with some posts here though that it seems to tease you by taking you close to the edge of something more spectacular and stops short. He's thinking it may be a better tool for social type interaction vs. full blown psychedelia. it's good to have these at times when you're in public or sensual situations.

he doesn't really see the need to push past 50mgs though looking for more. why risk toxicity when you can do much less of another 2c-x and find your god. would be much cheaper too.

he would have to say that 40-50mgs would be an ideal dose. obviously less if you've not experimented with any 2c's before.

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[radiometer]

Way less...SWIM and his wife have full-blown psychedelic experiences on just 34mg of 2C-C. Each individual has their own ideal dose and effects.

[oldman]

just out of curiousity what would a normal (not high) dose of 2ci be for your friend swim? my friend usually can go low with good effects with 2ci (12-15mgs) but must say he never had anything remotely psychedelic with 50mgs of cc. not that that is bad neccessarily.

I'm not mocking you by any means either don't take it the wrong way. It just interests me that you've had full blown pschedelia with that dose level.

my swim may have had some cross tolerance (if there is any) from 2ci or ct4 that was taken in the days preceeding his dosing of cc. I thought I might throw that out there fyi. he also probably redosed he thinks within several days or a week from each time.

so I appreciate you're post and will tell him to make sure he really thinks about his next experiment if he ever has one. he does note that he had positive effects with 20mgs his first time.

[radiometer]

I'm afraid that SWIM has never taken any 2C-I to compare. He does seem pretty sensitive to 2C-D, having had good results (medium intensity, he said) from 2C-D in doses from 26-40mg. 2C-B seems about of average strength to SWIM, he takes 20-24mg. Tolerances are not a factor for SWIM.

SWIM's results with 34mg 2C-C have been spectactular, but not of consistent intensity - he also intends on trying doses more in the range you described.

I in no way meant to insinuate that SWIO is taking too much 2C-C, just that I think 40-50mg is too high a starting dose for one's first attempt. If 50mg isn't quite cutting it for SWIO, and SWIO has had no bad side-effects at this dose, then by all means try a bit more.

[GDxCAT]

oldman, if you saw no signs of toxicity with 40-50mg, why would you assume that taking it a little above that would make it toxic?
Orcourse you can take something like 2c-i or 2c-e and trip just fine from >20mg, but it wont be the same as a high dose 2c-c trip.
So far, each 2c-x that i tried (5) has produced a unique trip. So taking 20mg of 2c-i is not the same as 80mg of 2c-c.

(BTW, the numbers i am using are what worked for me, i dont recomend anyone else use these doses. Always start low with any RC that you recieve and work your way up slowly. Especially in light of recent mix ups with DOI and 2c-i)

[oldman]

40- 50 would be a high starting dose, I didn't recommend that for starters. as for the <50mgs, well swim was going by shulgins numbers and when in doubt he tries not to get way past them. It's worked for that dude, he 81 I think. I suppose swim also hadn't exceeded it because he says he only had a limmited ammount and once he scaled to 50 he only had seeral doses left and was fairly content at that level.
I by no means claim to know the level of toxicity of 2cc and frankly there are not alot of postings here on it.

on another note has anyone here known anyone who experimented with trying 2cc and later (maybe 2 hours)dosing with m1? I've read several accounts about other 2c's but not this one. swim was wondering if it may prolong the effects of the m1 or that the m1 may bring a more energenic flavor to the 2cc experience.

I have searched the engine to no avail on this one.