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Hello, I'm new here and I hope I'm not breaking any rules. I was wondering if anyone had any good advice on getting a doctor to prescribe opiate medications. I have migraine headaches, but they usually don't use opiates except as a last resort. I've found oxycontin works wonders for the pain, as well as hydromorphone for the breakthrough pain. Does any one have any advice. Please help a newbie out.
Peace, Steve |
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Under your name it says you're from Afghanistan, and you're looking for opiods?
... I hope that is an intended pun. Ask around is the only advice I can give you. Maybe you'll find a doc willing to prescribe what you want sooner or later. Have you tried any of these experimental migraine cures I happened to have heard about: poppers weed low dosage of xtc Last edited by FrankenChrist; 29-06-2008 at 17:59. Reason: I spel gud |
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It wont be easy to find a doc that will perscribe you oxycontin or hydromorphone for a "headach" if you go into an emergancy room compaining of it you may get a bottle of hydrocodone. Try fakeing something that they perscribe painkillers more often. try fakeing something like back pain, depending on your age/situation, or say you fell down a flight of stairs. if you go to the emergency room, and really milk your "pain" for all its worth i doubt you will leave empty handed. and remember, your pain level is always a 9 ;-)
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yeah, i'm not from afghani, i don't know how that got there. anyway, thanks for the info. i thought about going to a pain clinic and faking some back pain, but that seems like a lot of trouble. it would be nice to have a steady supply of cheap opiates though. damn!
yes, i have tried HIGH doses of weed and xtc, didn't do shit for my headaches. just made me happy. later, Stoddard |
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I found that it is best to ask people in your area that have cronic pain what doctor they go to. Normally you can get an idea from that which ones are not paranoid. Also, when you get there, don't over do it. Make sure to explain how the pain from the headaches affects your daily life. I have cronic back pain and I still have a hard time (but thats what Palm Beach, FL is like after Rush L. got busted)
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go see a pain management doctor(or specialist), they actually exist, and more than likely there are several in your area, and as their name implies.....
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Most of the pain clinics and pain management doctors require real proof of your condition. This can be a major bummer if you're faking it. A female friend of mine however gets 320 15mg roxicodnes a month for a minor back injury (it doesn't seem to actually cause her pain)that she provided an x-ray for, so you never know. Doctor shopping is fast becoming a thing of the past. Occassionally I meet some kids hanging out in the tv-room (yeah we hang out there) of the needle exchange who give me names of doctors who supposedly write scripts for any bullshit you make up, but I find leisurely junky talk to be dubious at best. The one time i went to a doctor who I heard gave fentanyl patches to people who said they were trying to quit dope- he gave me neurontin, clonidine, and klonopin (waste of $125 dollars! no insurance here!). |
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In my region of the country, pills are fading fast. There isa big crack down on prescription pain killers. Theres been a few od's in the area and a sharp increase in IV drug use. The college of physicians has laid the law down on the doctors on the region. Doctors are afraid to give out scripts. Complete documentation of injuries and even background checks are being considered for people claiming to be in pain. Not good for pillheads around here. Anyway, thats just here though. Im considering growing poppies
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well I dont advise doctor shopping if you dont have a legitimate condition. if youre not really in pain and just want a high, go to the southside and get some tar. if youre a junky trying to stay clean find a reasonable doctor who isnt too chickenshit to prescribe subuxone. dihydromorphinones will not help in either case, theyre more addicting than junk and more expensive than tar. |
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Your needle exchange has a tv room! WOW, that's pretty cool. In Chi we have a van, or more of a truck really that drives around to all the different dope neighborhoods on a schedule. They usually hit two places each day. It's somewhere in the city every day, and if you need to go get needles the good thing is no matter where it isin the city, you're in, you're right by the dope spot. There's also an AIDS clinic down the street from me that does a needle exchange on the side, and even though it's more convenient than the van(I usually don't need to go to the spot either, they usually come to me), I have to go up to the receptionist at the AIDS clinic which is always a different snooty boys town gay guy(no stereotyping) and tell them that I'm there for the needle exchange. And they always say "Oh." Just "Oh" but in that way whre from then on they won't look me in the eye but when I'm sitting and waiting for the lady to come up from the back and unlock the room and give me needles every time I look over he's looking at me and then quickly looks away. Sorry to hijak the thread with my rant. I really just meant to say that it was cool that your needle exchange had a tv room.
Anyways, there are still some magic doctors out there, but most of the ones I knew about or were being supplied from got busted or really restrictive since the oxy crackdown. It's kinda like going to the ghetto to score, you gotta have a sense of about where to go and then you gotta ask the right guy or let him ask you that's the biggest thing that will make doctors decide not to write you a script, if you ask for it right away. Especially clinic doctors, as they see more people who have less money. I may be being classist, but I definitely think it's easier for rich ppl to get drugs from their docs than poor ones. Anyways ask the right guy or else you could get arrested/ripped off/what you need. I may be fucked up but I think my analogy isapt. Finding the right doctor is just like going to the ghetto to score, except the probability of you getting what you want from the spot is much higher than from most docs. sad but true. Sorry for the long off topic rambling post and good luck finding a doctor who can help you. jr0k |
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Off Topic
allyourbase, what a glorious name...you still a gamer?
im building a FX59 sli BFG 7800 GTX box for CHRISTmas. |
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A friend of mine at the gym has cronic back pain .. his doc wrote him a script for hydros ... saw his same doc told him i had a old sholder injury .. he wrote me the same script with refills no questions asked ... my advice .. find a good doc !!!
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You wont be geting anything like oxycontin prescribed for head aches, you are going to have to make up a pain. What they are going to do is giving you something not that strong, what you gotta say is that it didnt work or you needed to take a rediculus amount of it to releive the pain.
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SWIM has recomended faking kidney stones, he knows it is an old trick but he has admited that it worked on many occasions. Nothing real strong but a reocurring visit didn't appear to be the suspicious. BTW where in chi town is the needle exchange, if that won't be agianst the rules (don't want to end up in the south south side)?
-- Nera |
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SWIM still has legitamate unknown abdominal pain, he is prescribed morphine and regularly given pethadine or morphine IV at a hospital once per week and has been doing for several months now. He did work his way up from codeine to tramadol to burnorphine to morphine and it took 2 years but his doctor did prescribe it and SWIM still has no physical proof of a condition. SWIM has had 2 operation to try to discover the problem. SWIM is pissed off as they cant find his condition but he thinks that the severe abdominal pain he feels could be faked relativly easily. His bloods are usually clean along with his urine. He is under a good specialist of abdominal stuff (gaestroentology) which i think probably makes him more believeable.
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swiFantasian, swim reccomends perhaps asking the doctor to check for spinal nerve damage to the nerves that innervate the abdomen. this is a problem that could create real pain, without showing physical damage to the organs. off topic SWIM knows, but on topic, swim would say that its probably better not to have a condition requiring narcotics in the first place, since they generally arent any fun, and lying to the doctor is bad and unethical and probably illegal etc etc.
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Re: Gettin narcotics from your doctor
How about actually being in pain? It's pretty retarded that people actually fake injuries to get pills, I mean feeding their addiction..? It makes it more tedious for people who actually have pain. I have a chronic pain injury and my doctor prescribes me 100, 10 mg Percocet's every few weeks. I am on a good program and I can do my work, if there are areas that crack down on this, well that's because people in that area don't need the medication.
Sorry for being rather harsh, but it's not right. It's just like seeing someone in severe pain at an ER, when someone else who isn't in pain is getting pain killers just so they can feel like they are in heaven. =\ My sister went through something similar, she had Kidney stones and people before her were being helped first, people who might have had something a lot minor than what my sister had. Regards. |
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Re: Gettin narcotics from your doctor
You need to ask, and be persistent, and not take no for an answer. But you must have real need, and be able to (and not be afraid to) repeatedly articulate to your doctor why it is you feel you should have the drug(s) you want. The worst thing to do is come to it from perspective where you are scamming the doctor. This is not about scamming. This is about getting the drug which could benefit you, and not being afraid to openly talk about it. Sort of like meeting a beautiful girl in a singles bar - the best advice anyone could give you is to "just be yourself". No one wants a phony. But if you have a good case, and you are a likable person, and everything lines up, and you develop a relationship of trust. You see where this must go? Doctors are there to help you, not to be lied to. But when they don't help you, you need to call them on that as well. Chances are, if every thing is out in the open, and you are very clear and articulate, and you have a good case, you will get your drug, as doctors can't hide from the truth then quite as easily. Hope the advice helps. Where there is a will, there is a way. Also, it helps to be a very intelligent articulate individual, and not a fuzzy, blunted burnout. The sort of person who will have a tough time getting their Rx, is the kind of person who is so uncomfortable talking about sex (or deeply personal matters), that they can’t even discuss such things effectively.
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Re: Gettin narcotics from your doctor
when someone goes into a clicic with a condition for which painkillerd can be prescribed, the doctor is going to try to figure out what kind of person their patient is. docs are good at detecting drug-seeking behavior. so, SWIY has to put on a show to appear as a drug-free, responsible citizen. a clean shave, some nice clothes, etc. when my monkey did this, he wore khaki pants with a button-down shirt, complete with a pen poking out of the chest pocket. pay attention to the details. my monkey lied to the doc by telling him he went to a good school and worked at a bookstore. there was a brief discussion about WWII history, displaying my monkey's intelligence and academic interest. also important is being knowledgable about what condition SWIY has or is lying about. know the symptoms and what over-the-counter drugs can alleviate it. then, tell the doc that SWIY tried those without success. but don't make your show too obvious - all of this should be done subtly. have a casual conversation with the doc. and whatever you do don't ask for a specific drug or say something like "well, my friend was prescribed morphine, oxy. etc. and it really helped him, so i'd like to try it." this is a clear indication of drug-seeking behavior.
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Re: Gettin narcotics from your doctor
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Re: Gettin narcotics from your doctor
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Swim lives in a very well off area and with a history of pretty bad of arthritis( cant drive for long period of times cause knees, cant type w/o numerous aleve), migranes, bad back problems and can only get ultram( which 400mgs ER is awseome so ive heard) Swim also has severe panic attacks and has taken me a year to get .5 mg of xanax a day last time swim went 2 the ER and spent some time in the hospital he got a ridiculous amount of dilaudid for migranes and nothing else roman6886 added 4 Minutes and 57 Seconds later... Quote:
Swim lives in a very well off area and with a history of pretty bad of arthritis( cant drive for long period of times cause knees, cant type w/o numerous aleve), migranes, bad back problems and can only get ultram( which 400mgs ER is awseome so ive heard) Swim also has severe panic attacks and has taken me a year to get .5 mg of xanax a day last time swim went 2 the ghetto ER and spent some time in the hospital he got a ridiculous amount of dilaudid for migranes and nothing else Last edited by roman6886; 25-04-2008 at 22:54. Reason: Automerged Doublepost |
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