Opinions - Preparing San Pedro/Peruvian torch in advance

[Zoidy]

Swim and a friend of his are going camping in the summer (if it ever arrives!). Swim and his friend (both being new to cacti, the friend being relatively new to tripping in general) are looking to spend a few fun filled days experimenting with either San Pedro or Peruvian Torch.

They are both thinking that Peruvian Torch sounds like the most fun, and it is cheaper per gram than San Pedro, though they will both be very recptive to suggestions to the contrary.

As I mentioned, Swim and friend will be camping and therefore spending hours simmering powder isn't going to be the most convenient method of preparing said goodies. It's also a fairly long drive to the south coast from where they reside and are both anxious to find a method that can be done a bit in advance without losing any of the quality of cactus.

Can anyone impart some pearls of wisdom on what what be a good method to be prepared before embarking on an 8 hour drive? Both Swim and his friend would be very thankful for any, and indeed, every suggestion.

Thanks in advance

Zoidy.

[Drats]

SWIM regular takes T.peruvianus, he cuts it into 1 cm thick slices, or let´s say half thick as SWIMs thumb. After that he quarters the slices. Of course the spikes have to be removed first.
SWIM uses a huge cooking pot and filling it with water, he also adds some lemon-juice and Vitamine C (Ascorbic acid) this enhances the solubility of the alkaloids. SWIM now throws the cacti pieces into it, SWIM keeps it the traditional way and cooks it for 7 hours. SWIM allways have to add some additional water because 7 hours cooking vaporizes a lot of it. After the 7 hours he filters out the cacti parts and keep cooking the stuff until it reached a small amount which can be filled in 2 regular mugs.
SWIM also adds a lot of sugar because he mentioned that the taste is not very pleasent. SWIY should keep in mind to drink that stuff on empty stomache or the sickness will be incredible.
SWIm drinks the first mug as fast as possible, he hold one´s nose to try drinkin it with one pull, than he waits about 20 minutes before he drinks the second mug the same way. SWIM mentioned it makes the sickness less worth, if he drinks it all at ones he regular has to throw up.

SWIM also said he uses 600-700 grams fresh T.peruvianus, but for the first time he did it with 500 grams and it was pleasent.

Sometimes SWIM cooks it 1-2 days before he uses it, but it should be kept in a fridge. So if SWIY wanna go outside and enjoy it there, he could cook it 1-2 days earlier. Hope SWIY will have a lot of fun

[Zoidy]

Swim is very greatful for your insight. Swim does however one more question. I apologise for not relaying this in the first post. Swim is more intelligent than I!

Swim said he was looking to buy dried as opposed to fresh as he says it's a damn sight easier to get a hold of over here in Blighty. Would you recommend fresh or dried?

Thanks from both myself and Swim.

Zoidy.

[Drats]

Well SWIM regular uses fresh cacti, but the alkaloids are very stable, so drying the cacti shouldn´t lead to a loss of alkaloids. Because in most countries a living plant is not illegal, but dried cacti is allways a problem (SWIM don´t knows any country where Mescaline is legal). SWIM also said cooking with dried cacti shouldn´t be any different, but T.pachanoi contains about 85-90% water, so 100 gram fresh is about 10-15 gram dried.

[jtb]

for preparation i have found that most water dwellers prefer their mescaline mixed with the alkaloids in the cacti as opposed to pure mescaline, so if one thinks one would fall into that category one should opt out of an A/B extraction. though one would never know their preference until they tried both.

it looks like SWIY is vetoing the tea. one has a few options left. one could go through the painstaking process of eating a massive amount of cactus skin. if one were to do this one should eat it dry so one does not have to consume all of the extra weight that the water adds with fresh cactus. one would likely want to prepare dried cactus for consumption though because it is not easy to eat hard, dried cactus. if it was me, i would do an alcohol extraction, i just posted a tek for it and there are other ones as well on this form. cap the tar resin or freeze it or create a wildly creative method of ingesting it and share it with everybody else!

[bushman]

Any SWIMmers know how long San Pedro tea can be kept for? SWIM brewed his juice 3 days ago, will it still be potent?

If it can be kept (in a cool box or what not), this may be the easiest way to use the cactus whilst camping (ie make tea in advance).

[CrookedEye]

Originally Posted by bushman

Any SWIMmers know how long San Pedro tea can be kept for? SWIM brewed his juice 3 days ago, will it still be potent?

If it can be kept (in a cool box or what not), this may be the easiest way to use the cactus whilst camping (ie make tea in advance).

Refrigerate it and it should be fine until it molds (in which case SWIM would just extract it). If not consuming within a few days, it should be frozen, to keep out any mold or bacteria, but the alkaloids should be stable for a long time.