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Old 20-05-2009, 15:14
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meth comedown

Swim has read the comedown from meth is very bad and was curious if gbl is a great way to help you avoid it and would this work better than benzos ? Swim has used gbl for coke comedown before and it's been very effective and since meth is very similar in a way im guessing it will help also..Swim just wants to hear some suggestions..
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Re: meth comedown

be carefull with gbl/meth and blood pressure ect..
but it's a way to lighten the comedown yes! but SWIM prefers to take 1 sort of drugs and stick with the pro's and con's... not making the damage to SWIMS brain/body any worse then it has to be!
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Old 20-05-2009, 18:33
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Re: meth comedown

Thanks is good to know that gbl makes a good backup insurance for a meth comedown. ) What about the meth bugs are they also part of the comedown someone gets ?
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Re: meth comedown

Personally SWIM uses three primary substances for trying to sleep during the comedown after a meth binge.
  • Melatonin
  • Valerian Root
  • Xanax
These three substances usually allow SWIM to begin to get drowsy and then pass-out after about an hour.
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Old 09-06-2009, 05:09
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Re: meth comedown

SWIM has experienced .5g of meth in a day of extended time of use. Swim got strong euphoric first 5min of the first hit. The rest were just the high(tweak). The come down is horrible! not worth the experience. You may feel bugs crawling in your skin due to chemicals coming out of your pores; most likely cause scars all of the body. You may fill insane like going crazy inside your head. SWIM took xanax to sleep. Woke up early before sunset and everytime SWIM stood up he would get horrible headrushes about to blackout. SWIM had to drop on his knees to let the headrushes run away, but it lasted 30 mins. SWIM says its HELL.
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Re: meth comedown

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Personally SWIM uses three primary substances for trying to sleep during the comedown after a meth binge.
  • Melatonin
  • Valerian Root
  • Xanax
These three substances usually allow SWIM to begin to get drowsy and then pass-out after about an hour.
Good man, SWIY is!!! Both alprazolam (Xanax) and valerian root inhibit melatonin release... as will GBL btw. So taking supplements will allow the body to bypass the natural adrenergic stimulation required for melatonin release, while still maintaining adequate blood levels to induce REM sleep.

When one is coming down from hard stimulants and using sedatives as a sleep-aid/mood stabilizer, it's important to take melatonin supplements, so that the sleep will be a productive one, substantially decreasing the damage that overstimulation can cause.

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Excellent scientific suggestion substantiated by both Sleep Specialist & personal experience.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:44
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Re: meth comedown

SWIM doesn't agree w/the comedown. For her, it's not nearly as substantial as a coke comedown. She has noticed after reading these boards and others, that most people who have horrible coke comedowns, don't experience the same with meth. She does not have any scientific proof, it's simply her personal observation.
It's also dependent on how well you take care of yourself when using. The "bugs crawling out of your skin" stuff is because one doesn't bathe. SWIM highly suggests making personal hygiene a priority when using, if one decides to use. She does not have the "picking" issues, the creepy crawlies or any of that nonsense.
Be smart, keep hydrated and read up, there is a lot of useful info here, can't stress the hygiene enough, brush, shower, shave, etc. it feels great as well!
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Old 24-06-2009, 00:55
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Re: meth comedown

SWIM would like to add another aid to the list, water. Even with SWIM's best intentions SWIM is always horrible at keeping hydrated because, frankly, there are more fun things to do. SWIM has occasionally even set his cellphone alarm on snooze to remind him to take a few sips every (i think) nine minutes. Force yourself to eat a little something too, as well as take a shower. You'll be amazed how much these simple things can help take the edge off.

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Old 27-08-2009, 01:09
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Re: meth comedown

swim is trying meth for first time soon, and was wondering if pot would help the comedown? ty for your advice in advance.
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Old 27-08-2009, 05:28
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Re: meth comedown

SWIM says it's different for all, some say it's dangerous to mix an upper w/a downer, but for SWIM, that's how she ends her evening/morning/whatever. When SWIM is ready to come down and get some sleep, it's the best for her. SWIM thinks if you smoke regularly and like it, then yeah. But SWIM also says she is not recommending it, especially since youv'e never done it. First time, hard to say what is right. Any time really. SWIM uses it, but is not endorsing it for anyone else!
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Old 29-08-2009, 01:05
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Re: meth comedown

It kinda depends how frequently you do it and how much you do. The first time SWIM quit, he was smoking about a zip a week. He just felt extremely agitated, emotional, and was forced to once again deal with the constant state of over-thinking and mental self-torture that was present in his life before dope entered his life. Physically, he felt very weak and would just eat food or chain smoke. Usually, he'd sleep for a couple days until the feeling would start to pass, but he had a lot of obligations to deal with at the time, and the withdrawal made it extremely difficult to focus on any given task because his mind was constantly racing in an unorganized fashion, he completely lacked patience and would burst out in rage after his endless failed attempts to do anything constructive within those first few days. He also couldn't stop swaying back-and-forth for some reason. When he started up again, he was still using daily, but about half to three-fourths the quantity he had previously been using and also started to shoot up, which made the down way, way more harsh. When he was shooting maybe only two to three times a day in 15-20 unit dosages in addition to smoking about half what he used to smoke, his body would immediately respond to the absence of dope within hours. If he didn't touch anything for a good 24-36 hours, he'd start to feel nauseous and disorientated and had reduced coordination. Furthermore, he would framp way, way harder and go psycho over anything. One odd thing, when he only smoked, after awhile, he would just get really tired after doing it, probably because it was over-stressing his body, but when he started shooting it too, there was that tired feeling, but it became more difficult to sleep until the thing wore off, and then he'd crash.
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Old 29-08-2009, 18:02
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Re: meth comedown

If you have the supply and the time and the place, just letter nature take its own course and when you feel like you just can't stay awake any longer and you are fighting a severe case of the head nods. Let it pull you down into the most relaxing sleep you can ever imagine.

Hence, no comedown
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Re: meth comedown

My friend smoked a few bowls yesterday, all to himself. Last bowl was around 9:00 to 10:00 PM. He took a benzo (Valium) as well as a shot of Nyquil and got to sleep around 12:00 AM. Had a fan on for the occasional sweats and got a good night's sleep.

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Re: meth comedown

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SWIM has experienced .5g of meth in a day of extended time of use. Swim got strong euphoric first 5min of the first hit. The rest were just the high(tweak). The come down is horrible! not worth the experience.
Isn't still being awake sill feeling the effects. This word "come down" makes no sense in swim's book. Using for 6-7 days one tends to just pass out from exhaustion or lay there and wait for sleep if there is no more shit to do.

Are there individuals out there who use MA to get a rush, like cocaine use??? For short periods of time, say one-two days???

Swim can't understand that, swim likes to think meth is different because one can continually use over a few hundred hours of time with out "coming down".
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Old 20-11-2009, 08:02
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Re: meth comedown

SWIM tried it for the first time last night. got hooked on that rush, and have been IV'ing it ever since trying to get that "rush" back.

SWIM's first injection was a .22g i believe, nd it had an amazing onset
SWIM continued to inject maybe half that dose twice throughout the day

The original comedown was really shitty... so SWIM IV'd agian (closer to 3g this time) and that rush was ridiculous. it was what i was lookign for, but imemediately followed it with a benzo (clonazepam)

keep some clonazepams around i believe theyre probably going to be the safest way to ease your comedown

natedogg added 2 Minutes and 29 Seconds later...

* keeping in mind that SWIM haven't had any previous meth tolerance, just crosstolerance from some dabbles with speed pills from montreal and the tolerance built up through knocking back candies left right and centre back in the day...

natedogg added 3 Minutes and 5 Seconds later...

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Isn't still being awake sill feeling the effects. This word "come down" makes no sense in swim's book. Using for 6-7 days one tends to just pass out from exhaustion or lay there and wait for sleep if there is no more shit to do.

Are there individuals out there who use MA to get a rush, like cocaine use??? For short periods of time, say one-two days???

Swim can't understand that, swim likes to think meth is different because one can continually use over a few hundred hours of time with out "coming down".
Now that swim is a little more familiar with it... i see him if anything, continuing on a patter of... one - two IV hits, (one for the euphic rush, and the second just to keep you going), and then self-induced crash via benzos.

i wouldn't employ this drug to keep me up for 6-7 days at a time. focus gets lost. however... what if one were to IV'd .10g of meth in conjunction with adderall? could one using that principale enable them to stay away (i.e to study) for nearly a week and use the ardderal to be able to keep focus?

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Re: meth comedown

Swim tried meth for the first time yesterday and still hasn't slept. But whn swim got out of bed this morning, swim was covered in welts hives and super itchy. Swim tries really hard not to scratch it but it's difficult. Swims friend suggested benadryl and a hot bath. Swim thinks they might be alergic to meth and hopes the swelling and itchy rash goes away. Any suggestions for swim?
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Re: meth comedown

SWIM thinks it is just the simple dehydration of SWIY's skin. DO NOT scratch SWIY's skin ever, meth doesn't wounds SWIY's skin, but SWIY can wound herself if she scratch it because the dehydration make her skin more vulnerable.

SWIM's advice:

Go cold turkey from every drug except those on which SWIY are dependent. (eg. treatment drugs if SWIY has any)

Drink a lot (no fat, no sugar clean water or mineral water are the best),

Eat a lot, (healthy, the more natural the better type of food, fruits with a lot of vitamin C, vegetables if you like them, and maybe some good meat but not a cheesburger!, SWIY should get in some Vitamins and some Carbohydrates so SWIY's body can rebuild itself)

then the hot bath. In this order. If the swellings and itchiness won't vanish or decrease greatly tomorrow then go and see a doctor.
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Old 24-12-2009, 07:51
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Re: meth comedown

Meth can cause these issues. Benedryl, if that doesn't help a cortisone cream for the rash. Swiy shouldn't scratch or pick, it will irritate it.
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Re: meth comedown

Swim is never doing meth again. How does one know when they are coming down? Swim started yawning and hopes that a sign of becoming tired, but when swim tries to sleep swims eyes stay Open. Swims rash did clear up a little but is still pretty itchy. Why did swim do this? Swim thinks dying would be less painful. Swim decided today to begin the road to recovery for all substance and alcohol. Thanks everyone for the advice on how to cope with the symptoms. It helped swim out alot. Swim is embarrased though for not knowing what swim was getting into. Swim is retarded. Swim also feels like a Pansy for not being able to handle meth. But swim is more than glad to quit and change swims life around. Swim asks that people don't be judgemental for being so naiieve. Swim is sorry.
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Old 27-12-2009, 11:43
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Re: meth comedown

SWIM lives by the rule: "Don't combat drugs with drugs" - if one is prepared to get on the treats, then one must also accept the less desirable aftermath as part and parcel.

Living by this rule in swims opinion is a pillar of gospel in the world of recreational substnace use and is a notable factor that surely will help to see through a longer, safer and enjoyable recreational career

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Re: meth comedown

What goes up must comedown. Yeah it is bad.

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Re: meth comedown

Its interesting no one mentioned weed, it does help with comedowns.

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Re: meth comedown

SWIM decided to try GHB at slightly less than recreational doses after a 2 day meth binge and found almost all somedown reactions were smoothed out or eradicated. As there are virtually no withdrawls from GHB SWIM continued in this vein for a day and when awoke the next day was completely over the meth withdrawal. Im convinced this is the way to ease meth withdrawals and possibly other substances as well...
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Re: meth comedown

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Meth can cause these issues. Benedryl, if that doesn't help a cortisone cream for the rash. Swiy shouldn't scratch or pick, it will irritate it.
Although this is a great idea in concept, Benadryl contains diphenhydramine. Diphenhydramine is what's called a first-generation antihistamine, which actually INCREASES the effect of meth on the brain!

Alternatives might be second-generation antihistamines like loratidine and cetirizine hydrochloride, or third-generation antihistamines like desloratidine, but this poster can't verify that they will have the desired effect. (thanks to Pinksox for the idea!) Local brand names for these substances can be found on wikipedia. A study in the European Journal of Pharmacology found that the second-generation antihistamine Ebastine did not increase the effects of meth on the brain, but that might not apply to all second-gens.

Remember, it's important to research ALL substances that might be used because even boring old antihistamines might have an unexpected effect when mixed!

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Re: meth comedown

SWIM doesn't recommend taking one drug to kill the bad effects of another, it is dangerous and can land SWIY in the ER. But if SWIY must, SWIM has found somas to be the most effective way to fall asleep on a comedown. Also, any benzo (valium, xanax etc.) works well too. If SWIY wants to do it without taking any other substance, SWIM recommends a long hot shower, a good meal (or at least something to eat), and watching something like family guy until SWIY is knocked out.

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