Pharmacology - Acetic Anhydride on CFO=6MAC?

[Freshpow]

I have been trying to find out whether reacting Acetic anhydride with opium or even the dry pods themselves will produce 6MAC. I havent found much for my friend who wants to know.

I believe his plan is as such:
Pods-->CFO
CFO+AA-->H

but if makes 6MAC, he can scratch that. Also will the morphine have to be in base or some specific form for it to react with the acetic anhydride?

Thanks

[Quorthon]

Mate, SWIM doesn't know the exact details of the chemistry, but he could tell you about a dream he once had.

1. SWIM bled around 10 opium poppy pods into table spoon (not a lot for some people, depends on tolerance obviously. SWIM started with 5 or 6 pods a time in the beginning.)
2. Spoon is heated over a flame and opium spread out. Heat is applied lightly but continuously. The opium should end up totally dry but not burnt.
3. Opium is covered with AA. Spoon is covered with foil. Spoon is heated gently for a few minutes.
4. Foil is removed and spoon heated until the smell of AA no longer comes off. This is tricky as normally SWIY nostrils are saturated with it by this point. Best to use SWIafriend's opinion if possible.
5. A sprinkle of Citric Acid is dropped in the spoon along with a reasonable amount of water ~2mls.
6. Heat spoon and dissolve opium.
7. Filter out opium latex with cigarette filter, into a syringe.
8. Wash again.
9. Filter again with a high quality wheel filter to remove bacteria and impurities.
10. Inject and Enjoy!

This is a dream about a quick and dirty way to get high off opium, but it works. Obviously if SWIY has a large quantity of opium available SWIY can refine it further using techniques freely available on this forum for a better result.

Have fun and stay safe!

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	Perpetuation a dangerous, lethal, misinformed and outright wrong tek
	extremely bad advise, learn some chemistry first.

[King_Bee]

Originally Posted by Freshpow

I have been trying to find out whether reacting Acetic anhydride with opium or even the dry pods themselves will produce 6MAC. I havent found much for my friend who wants to know.

I believe his plan is as such:
Pods-->CFO
CFO+AA-->H

but if makes 6MAC, he can scratch that. Also will the morphine have to be in base or some specific form for it to react with the acetic anhydride?

Thanks

SWIM recommends you do not try it for the following reasons:

1) If SWIY is using raw or cooked opium along with acetic anhydride it will produce diacetylmorphine (Heroin). The yield should be pathetic as the morphine should be extracted out first.

2) If SWIY is using raw or cooked opium along with acetic acid to produce 6MAC the resulting product will be deadly as codeine + acetic acid = bad idea.

[Freshpow]

So Codeine + acetic ANHYDRIDE, not acetic acid, will still produce 6MAC?


He wants to make Diacetylmorphine from pods. He has read all the tutorials using calcium carbonate to precipitate the morphine but feels this has a huge potential to get ruined and lose all product. If it can be done on the CFO, this would be alot better.

[samuraigecko]

Codeine + GAA = 6MAC
Codeine + AA = 3,6DAC and 6MAC.

If one uses either acetic acid, glacial acetic acid or acetic andrahyde on Opium they will result in producing 6MAC. IF INJECTED THIS WILL MORE THAN LIKELY KILL IMMEDIATELY, but one may be lucky enough to just ride in an ambulance and then die.

6MAC acts like a poison rather than a drug in the human body. It produces very extreme allergic reactions almost immediately especially if injected.

It is not a matter of "if i am allergic", it produces these reactions in 99.99% of people (which is why there is no monoacetyl-codeine or diacetyl-codeine in medicine)

SWIM highly doubts the dream that was presented. This is why . .

1] How would one "bleed opium into a spoon" it takes hours (a full day) to bleed a pod.

2] How would one heat it in a spoon without destroying the Opium. Morphine is vaporized at 82.6 degrees Celsius and therefor destroyed if not "smoked" at this point. Other active alkaloids are also destroyed at simmilar temperatures. Unaviodable if using heat on a spoon.

3] One cannot "filter out the latex" with a Cigerette filter. If this were the case then as everSWIone knows, the filtration steps of CFO would be MUCH MUCH easier . . lol.

4] There is no way to remove the Codeine in this "tek" and therefor one would produce both 3,6DAC and 6MAC which would be fairly lethal even for opiate tolerant peoples.

SWIM would recommend to stay away from this presented dream for the logical reasons presented here to all whom wish to see the following day.

Peace

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Posting reliable info like always. Good looking out.

[Quorthon]

Originally Posted by samuraigecko

Codeine + GAA = 6MAC
Codeine + AA = 3,6DAC and 6MAC.

If one uses either acetic acid, glacial acetic acid or acetic andrahyde on Opium they will result in producing 6MAC. IF INJECTED THIS WILL MORE THAN LIKELY KILL IMMEDIATELY, but one may be lucky enough to just ride in an ambulance and then die.

6MAC acts like a poison rather than a drug in the human body. It produces very extreme allergic reactions almost immediately especially if injected.

It is not a matter of "if i am allergic", it produces these reactions in 99.99% of people (which is why there is no monoacetyl-codeine or diacetyl-codeine in medicine)

SWIM highly doubts the dream that was presented. This is why . .

1] How would one "bleed opium into a spoon" it takes hours (a full day) to bleed a pod.

2] How would one heat it in a spoon without destroying the Opium. Morphine is vaporized at 82.6 degrees Celsius and therefor destroyed if not "smoked" at this point. Other active alkaloids are also destroyed at simmilar temperatures. Unaviodable if using heat on a spoon.

3] One cannot "filter out the latex" with a Cigerette filter. If this were the case then as everSWIone knows, the filtration steps of CFO would be MUCH MUCH easier . . lol.

4] There is no way to remove the Codeine in this "tek" and therefor one would produce both 3,6DAC and 6MAC which would be fairly lethal even for opiate tolerant peoples.

SWIM would recommend to stay away from this presented dream for the logical reasons presented here to all whom wish to see the following day.

Peace

Hello, and thanks for your input.

While SWIM is a new member of this forum and doesn't want to appear argumentative, it seems that some of SWIyou are just plain wrong.

SWIM was originally from New Zealand and the method s/he listed earlier was commonly performed, every single poppy season, hundreds of time by people SWIM knew and injected drugs with!

SWIM doesn't claim it is the safest method in the world but it is definitely not as harmful as SWIsumuraigecko claims. Those of SWIus who don't live in countries flooded with heroin have to improvise, and if that method was as dangerous as presented, SWIM would know a lot more dead people than s/he actually does (currently none.)

To address the arguments presented above;

1. Place the stems (fresh pods obviously) into a bucket with warm water. Cut shallow slits in the pods. As the O oozes out, wipe it off with your finger and place into the spoon. Takes about one hour.
2. Don't heat too hot obviously. This is not a lab grade procedure and care should be taken to remove moisture without burning the Opium.
3. Perhaps this method doesn't filter out all latex, but it certainly filters out all visible solids.
4. Correct, no codeine is filtered out. However in my SWIM and SWImyfriends experience (thousands of shots) there has never been a problem, even in non-tolerant people.

This may seem hard to understand, and no doubt I will get a lot of flack as a new poster here especially for a first post! Nevertheless, everything I have written is true.

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	Learn your chemistry before someones dies!
	Please apy attention to what others tell you, and research so that you never give such dangerous advice in the future.

[King_Bee]

Originally Posted by Quorthon

Hello, and thanks for your input.

While SWIM is a new member of this forum and doesn't want to appear argumentative, it seems that some of SWIyou are just plain wrong.

SWIM was originally from New Zealand and the method s/he listed earlier was commonly performed, every single poppy season, hundreds of time by people SWIM knew and injected drugs with!

SWIM doesn't claim it is the safest method in the world but it is definitely not as harmful as SWIsumuraigecko claims. Those of SWIus who don't live in countries flooded with heroin have to improvise, and if that method was as dangerous as presented, SWIM would know a lot more dead people than s/he actually does (currently none.)

To address the arguments presented above;

1. Place the stems (fresh pods obviously) into a bucket with warm water. Cut shallow slits in the pods. As the O oozes out, wipe it off with your finger and place into the spoon. Takes about one hour.
2. Don't heat too hot obviously. This is not a lab grade procedure and care should be taken to remove moisture without burning the Opium.
3. Perhaps this method doesn't filter out all latex, but it certainly filters out all visible solids.
4. Correct, no codeine is filtered out. However in my SWIM and SWImyfriends experience (thousands of shots) there has never been a problem, even in non-tolerant people.

This may seem hard to understand, and no doubt I will get a lot of flack as a new poster here especially for a first post! Nevertheless, everything I have written is true.

Did you pull that info out your ass?

You seem to be the only one who does not know that codeine + acetic acid is DEADLY! How can you recommend someone to do an experiment that most knowledgeable members and chemists know for a fact? Harm reduction is key. If I was ignorant, I would -rep you but seeing as though your new, I will not.

[davestate]

Originally Posted by King_Bee

If I was ignorant, I would -rep you but seeing as though your new, I will not.

And you don't have any rep power

Bottom line is, this guy's lying, for what reason? Who knows. Crap like this is why ignorant people thought huffing fermented human shit (jenkem) would get you high.

Quorthon perhaps you are confusing this with the homebake codeine to morphine then heroin process? This originated in New Zealand. Whatever you idea for posting this is, you clearly haven't done it seeing as you're posting on here, not 6 feet under

[Alfa]

Originally Posted by samuraigecko

Codeine + GAA = 6MAC
Codeine + AA = 3,6DAC and 6MAC.

If one uses either acetic acid, glacial acetic acid or acetic andrahyde on Opium they will result in producing 6MAC. IF INJECTED THIS WILL MORE THAN LIKELY KILL IMMEDIATELY, but one may be lucky enough to just ride in an ambulance and then die.

6MAC acts like a poison rather than a drug in the human body. It produces very extreme allergic reactions almost immediately especially if injected.

It is not a matter of "if i am allergic", it produces these reactions in 99.99% of people (which is why there is no monoacetyl-codeine or diacetyl-codeine in medicine)

SWIM highly doubts the dream that was presented. This is why . .

1] How would one "bleed opium into a spoon" it takes hours (a full day) to bleed a pod.

2] How would one heat it in a spoon without destroying the Opium. Morphine is vaporized at 82.6 degrees Celsius and therefor destroyed if not "smoked" at this point. Other active alkaloids are also destroyed at simmilar temperatures. Unaviodable if using heat on a spoon.

3] One cannot "filter out the latex" with a Cigerette filter. If this were the case then as everSWIone knows, the filtration steps of CFO would be MUCH MUCH easier . . lol.

4] There is no way to remove the Codeine in this "tek" and therefor one would produce both 3,6DAC and 6MAC which would be fairly lethal even for opiate tolerant peoples.

SWIM would recommend to stay away from this presented dream for the logical reasons presented here to all whom wish to see the following day.

Peace

And on that note, this thread is closed.