Opinions - Staying up another day : Brought to you by amphetamine!

[wespawloski]

SWIM is curious as to what others have experienced in using amphetamines to propel themselves past the twenty-four hour mark?

SWIM is very dependant on his sleep, he only feels really well and good if he can get nine hours of sleep and wake up at 9:00am ish.

I know that everyone needs sleep. But, what are some thoughts on the false energy amphetamines can provide?

SWIM is currently on 90mg vyvanse after being up all night... surprisingly, he is having a not too bad day. He is somewhat out of touch, but he can still function maybe 80%. SWIM always feels, though, that he is running off some hidden power; he senses that he is awake (or maybe simply, does not sense the opposite), but he can also listen to his body's tiredness and empathise.

SWIM went on a dextroamphetamine salt binge last semester for his school's finals. He got about 2-4 hours of sleep three nights in a row. It was really interesting, he would wake up, and almost shove off the tired. He knew he would feel better right around the corner! Although SWIM might have taken lots of extra mgs frequently, he really could feel that his brain was wiped out! He had to write essays, and they appeared to come of a different writer.

SWIM is going to take a few more yummy energy supplements, now thats hes all up and thinking about it :P

Anyway, I appreciate the comments

[SmokeRings]

SWIM thinks that each and every person is different when it comes to these types of drugs. Sometimes she can have fun and go to sleep within a 24 hour period, get 4-6 hours and is fine, other times she might stay up for 36 or 48 hours and be fine too, there are so many variables that it's hard to say, at least for her. Sometimes it has to do with batch quality, other times it might have to do with quality of entertainment or folks she's with! haha
SWIM thinks that one's state of mind is KEY for any drug, in a bad mood, chances are high one is not going to have a good experience, in a good mood, generally a much more enjoyable time. Seems like common sense, but the brain is still such a mystery, who the heck knows what could happen!
Proper nutrition, hygeine and fluids is SO FRIGGIN' IMPORTANT, SWIM wishes people would GET THAT and see that comedowns, even overall enjoyment increases immensily when one takes care of themselves. She too has to sometimes force food, but afterwards, she is so glad she did! Food for her also helps with the comedown, get something in that growlin' belly and it's a natural sleep aid! A long, hot 30 minute shower while using is AWESOME, she looks forward to them! SWIM has also always been good with brushing her teeth often, she has smoked cigs for a very, very long time, but hates the ciggy breath! She always is sure to have mints, for when she might not have access to toothbrush & paste.
SWIM is usually really productive at work after being up, she just puts her head down and focuses and before you know it, DING, 8 hours is up!
Bottom line, its up to the individual as to how that false energy will play out, positive thoughts yield positive outcomes, negativity will yield negative, it CAN be that simple.

[Moonage Daydream]

personally this kitty has to shower as she sweats lamf on speed and it makes her feel better by miles if she is crashing and needs to face the world... and bed isn't gonna happen for a few hours yet...

[cyndi]

Nature of the beast, swiy amps, he stays awake. Sort of a double edged sword there.

[Moonage Daydream]

Yeah and the cat can't sleep when she wants to sleep, but at the same time accepts this as an occupational hazard... though amphetamine addict is not an occcupation she'll be putting on her CV (resume) anytime soon ha haIs it annoying when she translates Brit English to American?If so she'll stop...

[onzero]

yeah amp can make you feel like nothing's different when in reality things are quite different.

you can not sleep, feel better than if you had gotten a full 8. and it's got a long half life, so you fall asleep for 2-4 hours after taking it 12 hours ago wake up totally refreshed, take another dose as if that's how your body was supposed to function.

but after a few days of doing that it starts to wear on you, you start noticing mental deficits, difficulty remembering things, your judgment starts to go. you NEED sleep. then you sleep for 11 hours straight and are completely exhausted for the next day.

people who take them daily for ADHD generally sleep no more than 6 hours a night i would say, then if they take a break they'll wake up early like normal, then end up napping all day and going to sleep at like 9pm and be nigh impossible to awaken the next day

[staples]

When I have extreme difficulty sleeping, I generally like to reduce or skip my dose of lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse) the next day because feeling "chemically awake" can get very uncomfortable. Whereas if I only have some difficulty sleeping, I'll take a normal (70mg) dose and that typically (but not always) helps me forget that I didn't really get enough sleep the previous night.

Originally Posted by onzero

people who take them daily for ADHD generally sleep no more than 6 hours a night i would say, then if they take a break they'll wake up early like normal, then end up napping all day and going to sleep at like 9pm and be nigh impossible to awaken the next day

This isn't necessarily true. Some people report getting a better night of sleep after starting stimulant medication for ADHD.

[chronman]

Originally Posted by onzero

people who take them daily for ADHD generally sleep no more than 6 hours a night i would say, then if they take a break they'll wake up early like normal, then end up napping all day and going to sleep at like 9pm and be nigh impossible to awaken the next day

swim thinks he's figured out how to conquer this aren't sleep cycles every 3.5 hours so its best to get either 7 or 10.5 hours of sleep. just set an alarm or set yourself up to get tired 7 hours before you have to wake up for work. then, give it some time and you'll be right as rain

"Past experiences are stored in the mind, therefore we are the memory of the future" -Me

[Moonage Daydream]

sometimes feel totally refreshed after 3 hours, and sometimes dead after 10 hours sleep, my cat says. It seems pretty random now. But the day after an exhausted sleep-a-thon, she feels great - never the morning she wakes up from one, she feels like a freshly disinterred corpse then

[Hollow Hippie]

SWIM has experienced lots of smoking, coffee drinking, masturbation, and amphetamine psychosis staying up past the 24 hour mark.

[Lady Codone]

Sleep deprivation is one of the most damaging effects of amphetamines on the body. It affects immune function, thought processes and causes enormous strain as cells struggle to produce energy. Psychosis, hallucinations and car accidents are among the possible outcomes.

If you're getting less than 7 hours of sleep in a 24 hour period, you should probably cut back on your dose, take a few days off or find another way to treat your insomnia. OTC products containing doxylamine succinate, valerian root, kava or a sedating antihistamine like diphenhydramine can help you fall asleep, as can prescription meds like Ambien and Lunesta.

Just because you "can" function on little/no sleep doesn't mean its not doing serious damage over the long term. You don't wanna be 30 and look 60 like so many malnourished, sleep deprived tweakers in the anti-drug ads

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Very true information

[laws0n]

SWIM has had alot of experiences staying up on adderall.

24 Hour Mark: he can function normal, things are just a little blurry, he isnt as "speedy" like he is when he took his first dose 24hrs ago, and has to redose more often.

36 Hours: increased blurred vision cant really pin point focus on anything on tv or comp screen, different thought patterns, SWIM spaces out alot more, redosing wears off very fast and 20min after it kicks in SWIM goes back to the same.

48 Hours: Mild Hallucinations, walls will look like their wavy, something looks like its moving but it isnt. Paranoia, SWIM thinks he is seeing something if hes in the dark or will think something is moving out of the corner of his eye. A different outlook on things, VERYVERY hard to explain but things just seem alot different, he remembers once a little after 48 hours he went to the mall and it just seemed REALLY weird. The "tiredness" will wear off in SWIM but if he lies down anywhere he will fall alseep in less than 5min.

SWIM hanst really gone past 48hrs, but can imagine the whole "weird different outlook" would turn into something REALLY extreme and relates it to people staying up on meth for a week and climbing trees naked in their neighbors backyard, just weird stuff like that.

Sleep deprivation isnt good,SWIM wouldnt recomend it.

[chronman]

Originally Posted by laws0n

SWIM hanst really gone past 48hrs, but can imagine the whole "weird different outlook" would turn into something REALLY extreme

friends this isn't a "high" it's a glimpse into amphetamine induced psychosis. be wary! swim had it and it progressed quickly, and when it reached a point it took several months to "snap out" of it.

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Good info.

[laws0n]

Originally Posted by chronman

friends this isn't a "high" it's a glimpse into amphetamine induced psychosis. be wary! swim had it and it progressed quickly, and when it reached a point it took several months to "snap out" of it.

SWIM knew that it wasnt a "high" but he thought simply that it was because he wasnt sleeping and the adderall is what helped him not sleep. Meaning that if SWIM could stay up for 48hrs without it the same thing would happen. That is really scary SWIM will no longer think he can stay up all night and just redose and go about the next day like he slept.

Like SWIM said it was really weird, and very hard to explain, SWIM wants to learn more about this and is gonna read more about it to see if someone can explain it better. Thanks for the info SWI chronman

[Potter]

Regular sleep deprivation is pretty awful, but everyone should try it at least once, just to see what it's like.

[HorseBox]

SWIM doesn't get comedowns on amphetamine and can stay up for 2 days and feel fine but on the third day his sanity starts to deteriorate. SWIMs tried melotonin and valerian root for sleeping but they don't seem to work. SWIM finds that antihistamines on the other hand do work for some reason. SWIM thinks its a psychological thing because he has the idea that only some kinda heavy sedative type drug will be able to overcome the amphetamines.

[BA142]

SWIM has experienced many all nighters in the past few months. On average SWIM probably pulls an all nighter once a week....and on a few occasions has pulled back to back all nighters with no bad repercussions (unless you count some moderate to intense visual disturbances ) With redosing over the course of the "binge" SWIM can find himself feeling almost exactly the same 40 hours into the "trip" as he did 3 hours into it. SWIM has had a few bad comedowns, but would say that 95% of the times SWIM doses, he just stays positive and that works. SWIM has found that just keeping a positive attitude can really help past the 24 hour mark