What is the best thing to use to come off heroin?

[Junkhead23]

What say SWIY?

If SWIY can think of any more pacman will add them if he can.

[tyranny4u]

TT voted for none of the substances. The best things to come off H is
support by friends and family plus real willingness. That's all. In TT's
humble opinion.

[dyingtomorrow]

SWIM seems to hear that Ibogaine is the wonder drug for coming off heroin.

SWIM didn't have that bad of a time coming off of it with Bupe and a little DXM sprinkled in. Course he got right back on it again the second he could after he was "clean."

[ex-junkie]

swim voted for buprenorphine, however on its own she doubts it would be so good. combined with chlonidine and promethazine, its quite a saviour.

[pinksox]

swim voted for buprenorphine, however on its own she doubts it would be so good. combined with chlonidine and promethazine, its quite a saviour.

SWIM concurs with the polypharm approach for opiate tapers/withdrawals. SWIM initially withdrew cold turkey with Bentyl, Clonidine, and a week Valium taper. She was even taken off Zoloft abruptly--which she feels contributed to her long PAWS "depression." She uses quotes because it was often more utter despair and lost feeling mixed with anxiety--horrible really. She'd been stabilized on Zoloft for nearly two-years at that point.

She did unknowingly use DXM at what would be considered low recreational doses. She found it helped her with both the depression and muscles aches/issues. DXM wasn't known to be helpful in this capacity back then...or at least not to SWIM. She found it also satisfied that ever-present urge to "take something." In time, maybe a year or so, SWIM gradually eliminated the DXM without really even thinking about it.

Funny how the body always seems to know what it needs. Like when one craves bananas suddenly and they just happen to be a bit potassium deficient, etc.

[Spucky]

Swim voted for Ibogaine,
even we have no scientific comparative Study`s about the success!

But it really sounds like a Miracle for many, many People.
If Swim is still addicted to Morphine-Typ and want to quit
he definitively choose Ibogaine!

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[omid_safari]

sorry for bad english
swiy must know himself first,
divide his addiction to :
1-mentally : think about your life (tommorow and future)
2-body : control and enjoy the pain ( you know pain will be lost soon and you will be a free man ,think about no-1)
3- try decrease signs of treat,(use difenoxilate+clonidine+lorazepam+hydroxyzine)
4-try write your mind and body state on the paper and capture few photos from yourself
(this will remember you don't back to H,again)
swim 5 months was clean with 1 and 2, but now 2weeks returned to H again.
today swim was drunk alcohol and try to clear again.but this time clean forever.
swim's need more help , so swim invent no-3 to help no-2 then no-4 to help no-1 problem.

it is possible!

[static_vodka_420]

swim says methadone, even at 32mg buprenorphine just wasnt cutting his withdrawals enough , he hasnt tryed iboga but it sounds like the best treatment.. maybe swim will use it to come off the methadone when its time?

[Benniboi]

I think it's a fairly ambiguous question- It depends what you mean by 'coming off' if you imply a way of ridding the body of opiates quickly and restoring the body's natural homeostasis, i'd have to say ibogaine! but as everyone with an iota of experience in this field knows; Heroin withdrawal is as much a mental as a physical battle. So Ibogaine may reset the bodies chemical equilibrium, but the enviromental triggers, precursors and cravings will undoubtably remain for some. I think methadone or diamorphine would be first choices for people not looking to go through any withdrawal, but then you're stuck on maintanence or a 'long taper' which invariably doesn't work for everyone either! I think it's highly subjective and even situational depending on mental strength, age, and a plethora of other factors. Bupe is also a great drug to taper off heroin for some, although not really favoured as a maintence drug as the w/d's are fairly hellish! Kratom has also shown some promise as another possible contender- what about tramadol? SWIM found tramadol to be comparable to a low dose of buprenorphine in terms of comfort levels when stopping Heroin

[CrookedEye]

Iboga actually takes away the cravings, as well. SWIM lost his craving for sweets and junk food as well as his craving for opiates after iboga, as well as quit smoking cigs.