TEK - Achtwan's iboga extraction 2.o

[Calaquendi]

well friends, here it is, as promised...

***THIS POST IS FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY***

~ACHTWAN'S IBOGA EXTRACTION 2.0~


~MATERIAL~ 50 grams Tabernanthe Iboga root-bark (not whole root)

White vinegar (acetic acid)

plastic funnel (2)

Qt. mason jars (2)

coffee filters

cloth filter (T-shirt)

coffee bean grinder

gelcaps

scales-digital (.100)

glass baking dish


~PROCEDURE~

(1) grind 50g root-bark in bean grinder (powder as best u can)

(2) cover with vinegar

(3) simmer on low heat {3 or 4 on stovetop) 60-90 min. do not boil

(4) filter thru cloth ~collect solution~

(5) filter solution thru coffee filter

(6) re-cover plant material with vinegar

(7) repeat steps X 4

(8) preheat oven to 200F

(9) pour combined, filtered liquid into glass dish

(10) evap in oven w/ door open {takes several hours}

(11) scrape weigh cap pray

{NOTE : pic w/ red funnel~ notice tobacco smoke (prayers) infused in solution}

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Great job this is so valueable to DF and its members
	great tek! thanks for that!
	for a valuable tek, great pictures, and info on a little-known substance
	thanks for this very informative post!

[mr.mackey]

thanks for posting this, quick question tho, is this enough for one dose? five doses? only asking for research purposes of course

[Calaquendi]

Good questions -

50g of good bark reduced thus should yield enough for two good doses. It is important to note that even good bark varies in potency as does all plant matter.

This bark was ostensibly 4 - 6% alkaloid and we estimate it near the high end due to it's efficacy > and so used a 'mean' of 5% for our dosing calculations;

We pulled 16g of extract from 50g rootbark...

Swim 'flooded' with approx 8 grams of this TA. Certainly this is crude, but it lacks nothing and I believe it is closer to the spirit of the plant versus isolated materials....thanks for the inquiries, good timing in fact...Will be posting more 'treatment' notes in the near future (busy this weekend

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Whether you know it or not, you are helping addicted people with this information. Truly blessed to have good people in ...

[Calaquendi]

I'd like to clear up a few points that may seem vague or contradictory:

Originally Posted by Calaquendi

50g of good bark reduced thus should yield enough for two good doses. It is important to note that even good bark varies in potency as does all plant matter.

I should be more concise about this : 50g of the bark swim used (ostensibly 4-6% alkaloids) was enough to flood and have half of the TA extract left over for boosters...this is very dose-dependent material, several things factor in to dose calculations - what opiate is being used and how much, body weight, gender is a consideration as well - I have read several different accounts/reports suggesting that estrogen effects the metabolism of ibogaine and it's analogues (sorry no reference)

This bark was ostensibly 4 - 6% alkaloid and we estimate it near the high end due to it's efficacy > and so used a 'mean' of 5% for our dosing calculations;

We pulled 16g of extract from 50g rootbark...

I always use the weight of the root bark when calculating the dose of the TA - for example:
50g bark at 5% alkaloid content = 2.5g of TOTAL ALKALOIDS in the bark - translate this to the TA - you're not further concentrating with this tek, only reducing the bark down to a very basic, crude extract so that it contains the same alkaloid % as the bark does but you do not need to consume all the gnarly plant matter...Using the bark as the sole refernce point for dosing math is the easiest and safest way to be as certain as you can about how much alkaloid you are consuming. This tek could feasibly yield varying weight of extract even using identical methods, it is for this reason that basing calculations on the amount of root bark is recommended. Things as simple as different 'cooking' times, slower/faster filtering, evaporating, etc. could possibly effect the final yield, although most likely only in small amounts, this can still cause discrepancies and be confusing.

Swim 'flooded' with approx 8 grams of this TA. Certainly this is crude, but it lacks nothing and I believe it is closer to the spirit of the plant versus isolated materials

This 8g of TA represents exactly half of the extracted material (16g) pulled (reduced) from 50g of bark...again using the bark as the basis for dosing protocol. If the bark is 5% alkaloid content, then 50g of bark x .05 (5%)= 2.5g of total alkaloids. Simply roll the figures over and apply them to the TA extract - 16g TA = 2.5g pure alkaloids. Iboga total alkaloid is approximately one half ibogaine, and one half 'similar' analogues (nor-ibogaine, ibogamine, ibogaline, etc) some of these 'other' chemicals are actually more potent than isolated ibogaine hcl. Nor-ibogaine is what ibogaine breaks down into in the liver, it is one of the analogues purported to be more potent than ibogaine. For this reason and others, swim's friends who have used both isolated (96% pure) ibogaine and the TA extract mentioned here, much prefer the complete alkaloid spectrum...they said it was qualitatively superior in every regard, and when looking at the dosing math, we were surprised to learn how much less of the TA was actually needed to effectively treat opiate dependence. Clinics for ibogaine treatment typically use dosing protocols of 20 - 25mg/kg of pure ibogaine, which, compared to the same amount of a TA extract, is much 'harsher' physically and generally less 'psychedelic' in nature. Of course there are pro's and con's to each particular medicine and each person's responses and circumstances are unique. Thanks for all the great replies!

[ChiselD]

I wondered if someone were to use 20 grams of high quality Iboga T. root bark with this extraction method, would it be enough to considerably aid/remove withdrawals in a methadone addicted person. That is if the Iboga was at least as strong as yours root bark was, Calaquendi.

The subject's weight is approx. 190 lbs. and has been on roughly 60 milligrams of methadone(went to a methadone clinic for Heroin addiction) for about 4-5 months.

I understand that every body and every mind is different, thus the reaction would be different with possible similarities. This person is very adamant about getting off opiates altogether, because they know the longer they remain in the methadone clinic, the longer and harder quiting via "tapering" would ultimately be. Also, they got on methadone so they could graduate college instead of being addicted to heroin, dropping out, and living on the street between highs. I know this person will greatly appreciate any info and help offered to save another poor soul from the depths of opiate addiction!

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Good questions to ask.

[Calaquendi]

Hello friend....

That's a tricky question you ask. To be frank, I would say, unfortunately "no"...I doubt 20g of bark would be enough, it may be but, with this type of thing, one doesn't want to leave themselves 'short'..it would be awful to get in to a session only to have it cut short during the flood stage. If it was SWIM doing this, I think 50g of bark would suffice, probably even have some leftover for a 'boost'...which is typical of the TA. It's just so hard to gauge these things when talking about plants, it's better to err on the side of caution and prepare more than is needed, you don't have to take it all. Iboga can be a dangerous tool, I hope you research this thoroughly and I pray your friend finds the help they seek...many blessings ~C

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Good to make the OP aware that iboga must be treated with the utmost respect, it can be extremely potent.