taking your mind off cocaine?

[quietRiot]

hey, i really never wanted to do cocaine, but when i was really drunk one time my friend and i did a line.


now i feel really bad about it, and when i think about it too much, i feel really reall edgy and unconfortable and get the chest pain, but it goes away when i dont think about it.





HOW DO I STOP THINKING ABOUT IT? anyone have any cures?

[Nicaine]

Even if he's HATING it, he'll keep going until it's gone. Hell, he could be physically dying & would still be layin' 'em out if it was there. That's why he wanted some techniques, but so far it sounds like people either can put it away or they can't. Just the way it is, I guess.

[Zach Swan]

There is nothing easy about it.

Getting off the train for the night can be brutal, unless you just wear yourself out. A good hash joint might help. Then put your gear away, close your eyes, and think about puppies. And clouds. Meadows. Daisies. Naked women. If all that doesn't work, pinch one off (or preferably have someone do it for you.) If these solutions are ineffective, you probably should have just popped a couple of Xanax in the first place.

[Nicaine]

Zach Swan,

SWIM tells me he'd probably get nice & relaxed on the Xanax, then bump a few and enjoy the mix. He agrees completely about the difficulty of getting off the train for the night. What seems to work best for him is not to think at all... put in ear plugs, lay down in a darkened room with a droning fan going and let the brain shut itself off. With luck, he'll fall asleep.

[suninmy_MOUTH]

well SWIM thought he would put in his two cents on this as well.

if SWIM buys more quantity at once, it's cheaper and usually better quality (i.e., more chunky rocks etc.) than if he buys just a little bag for the evening. the problem then is the same as the rest, putting it away for another day. seems so hard to do.

one thing SWIM tried not too long ago was give about 1/2 his 8ball to a friend who doesn't do coke. that way that person is not going to answer the phone at 4am when SWIMs supply runs out. so basically SWIM will give up and let the comedown happen and try to get some Z's.

this night however, SWIM had a fatty 8ball and thought he could just do a couple bumps and save it for the weekend. SWIM is down to his last gram now, hoping to leave it....!!! SWIM needs to have some will-power!!

[jdrug]

One technique that occasionally works and used to work all the time is to have a plan ahead of time. It is Saturday night and swim has to work at 9am on Monday: swim says ok, so this much is for tonight and the rest will be saved for next weekend; this will last until 4am which means plenty of time to recover for Monday morning. Of course this is easier said than done and this technique works much less frequently than it once did...

SWIM typically comes to a point of diminishing return where it makes more sense to stop and save for later than to continue. Of course that doesn't mean it always happens, but if swim is lucky enough to reach that point with some left it can be possible to give it up for the night/day.

One unsafe method that swim has used is to substitute something that typically leads to sleep. Divide the stuff up into tonight's and "for later" and when tonight's is gone another substance is taken (typically something like valium or Oxy), followed by sleep. Of course this probably isn't very smart but there is some left over if swim is lucky enough to wake up.



It was once very easy; swim would have stuff for days and even weeks, but what was once easy is now quite difficult. And the smokeable stuff is a completely different story -- much more difficult to find some left the next day.

[AKA.Sprinkles]

SWIM used to do it till the end, but once it got like half way gone she would start majorly stressing about how to get more, where to get the money, trying to figure out a way to postpone the crash..,

So then she started not even doing it unless she had a gram, and then 2 grams, and the an 8... Since she couldn't sleep during the comedown anyways (lucky people who can!!) she would always stay up at least all night... Normally she was too tired by the next day, so she could make herself save some, but in reality it just brought her to doing way more than in the beginning..

Anymore she never gets less than a half O, and always stays up at least 3 days.. into the second she is forcing herself to take lines so she can stay "high", so into the third when there is absolutly positive effect from it at all, she usually just mellows out to a few movies...

SWIM first thought it was a great idea to buy more than she could do, it relieved the hours of stress and (many times) tears associated with starting to run out..

However... with abundance comes the end of rationing, building tolerance, ruining the bodys capability of feeling effects, longer binges, worse withdrawals...

Most important advice I have, is if you know you are someone who either has or is very likely to develop a lack of control over use, always ALWAYS get in small portions... You can't do what you don't have, and by the time you are able to run and pick up more, you will probabley have crashed enough to either be too depressed or too rational. Limiting doses slows the build up of tolerance, prolongs actual enjoyment of the high, is better for the body and the budget....

From the first time you allow yourself to do a considerable amount more than normal, your heading for a downward spiral..

Sooner than you could imagine you are finishing the last line of the ounce you bought three days ago, spending another sleepless night posting responses to drug forums..

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[tooblue4you]

Swim only 'fiends' for it during the night he is taking it, after swim has had some sleep and its out his system he wont want anymore for a while.

discofferret, dont mean to get on a a soapbox but maybe you should try some more counselling or maybe a holiday something to break the cycle. Regarding your other post starting to shoot it can surely only a downward path from where you are at now. Good luck in whatever you chose to do.

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[LiLiTH]

Hmmm SWIM thinks that too much is not a specific amount, too much is when it starts interfering with your daily tasks and literally messes things to the point of no control.

[discoferret]

Originally Posted by tooblue4you

discofferret, dont mean to get on a a soapbox but maybe you should try some more counselling or maybe a holiday something to break the cycle. Regarding your other post starting to shoot it can surely only a downward path from where you are at now. Good luck in whatever you chose to do.

Thanks for your comment tooblue4you. swim has been thinking about going to counselling again. But it still wont change on where swim live's and who swim socialise's with. Which swim thinks is the problem. swim is trying best not to get as bad as swim did before. Not having any money is a good thing. And swim has a understanding girlfriend who helps alot. As for the other post swim just wanted to ask. swim also doenst like needles which might help in deciding.

[tooblue4you]

yeah, friends play a big role in swims use too. At least it did to begin with, a few lines at the pub etc etc.

Although now swim finds himself buying without anyone to do it with. Swim is by no means addicted but he wants to nip it in the bud before its too late. Not to mention the money aspect.

[DrMuffy]

Originally Posted by AKA.Sprinkles

Most important advice I have, is if you know you are someone who either has or is very likely to develop a lack of control over use, always ALWAYS get in small portions... You can't do what you don't have, and by the time you are able to run and pick up more, you will probabley have crashed enough to either be too depressed or too rational. Limiting doses slows the build up of tolerance, prolongs actual enjoyment of the high, is better for the body and the budget....

This is great advice! SWIdr usually buys his yayo a gram at a time so he can finish it off and not feel as much regret. SWIdr has gotten into a pattern when it comes to doing coke. He will snort 2 lines, then go out an smoke a cig or two, and then do another line to prolong the high. He will usually go through this procedure twice every nite he has blow, and now finds it much easier to stop after the second time. Also SWIdr finds ambien and other hynotics extremly helpful after a coke binge.

[TinnyTinyCokedUPBallerina]

PureGlass, Swim normally doesn't even try to save it either. But honestly even if swim wanted to put it down swim knows that she honestly couldn't. I don't think that it has to do with experience, but willpower and addiction. Swim has worked really hard lately, because her weeks were becoming 4 days high, straight.... no sleep! and then two days off. But she realized how fast things were falling apart in her life. so for the past month she has only done it one day a week and not even a full 24 hours. Of course that was until last night... over 24 hours ago...but she has the week off why not have a little fun!

[Nicaine]

SWIM will add to his own thread -- he eventually found the right solution for him. What he does is put the last few lines in a nasal spray bottle, and add some water. Then he toots on the bottle every once in awhile, enough to maintain a mild buzz for an hour or more. Basically eliminates the comedown phase, as SWIM can gradually decrease his use -- he usually is done before the nasal sprayer is empty, and has enough left for a brief reminder toot upon discovering the bottle a day or two later .

Edit -- oops, this was about *putting some away* wasn't it... LOL. Welllll... maybe this technique would work for that too, SWIM has yet to try it.

[Soreno]

Melatonin can help with the comedown.

[NICK0yayo]

OK, recently SWIM has been dealing with cocaine and has been having urges for it. It makes him feel so good inside even by doing just a little line each day. He has been getting eight balls with friebds and doing over weekends and I think he has been getting kind of dependent on the feeling and looks forward to it a bit. He also is a minor and thinks it does kind of mess up his academics in school and realy shouldn't be doing coke at his age.

Even right now he probably is doing a line..He has been thinking if it would be a good idea to instead try a less addicting drug? SWIM doesn't want to be clean but wants to figure out a way to break his leading to addiction because SWIM deff. knows it is leading to an addiction...

Any helps on how to overcome this? SWIM will not go to counseling unless it gets worse. It is just leading up to the stages of it. SWIM does still enjoying doing it..

[KomodoMK]

For SWIM it was different. After doing it on say a Friday he would easily go without until the following Thursday or so, then have an urge to do it again. This urge is usually easily resisted unless consuming lots of alcohol.

[dbjay417]

when swim has to sleep and has exhibited poor judgement and got coke on a weekday, swim rarely has trouble rapping up use by as early as 10pm to get some sleep. Just smoke a cigar, pound a beer, clean up, shower and thats that.

on the weekends, swim has a hard time putting anything away. Its not uncommon for swim to blow until 5 am on a friday or saturday night. thats if swim's got nothing to do.

[chattTNdt]

My lifeguard usually has no problem putting the sack away. He tells me a couple good pills (everybody says xanax but he says a couple tylenol 4's, insufflated or oral is the ultimate coke comedown neutralizer). My lifeguard even just told me that he's sitting in bed as we speak, deciding whether or not to leave the bag in the drawer instead of continuing to enjoy the internet while conservatively blowing down...

My lifeguard is also new here.... hey

-DT

[CocaineCrazy]

SWIM's roommate locks it in his safe.. no worries at all. SWIM is not fiendish enough to try to get into that.

[EveryStar]

SWIM always does the most coke the same day he buys a new bag. He doesn't blow the whole gram in a night like some people seem to do, as he tries to make a gram last at least a week. SWIM always has the most trouble putting away the stuff when he gets a new bag, because he constantly thinks "Oh come on, you just got a brand new gram, don't be so greedy and have a little fun." So he continues on doing lines (small lines though) for a few more hours. He usually also takes some Xanax before the coke, the problem is Xanax makes him do stupid things, such as do more blow.
He usually stops by having one last fat line, popping some more Xanax and then heading off to sleep. Keep in mind though, that even if SWIM does cocaine all night, he still doesn't do that much, at least compared ot other people it seems. If he's up at it all night he'll probably do 1/4 gram, more or less.
His problem, though, is that he never knows when to stop and call it quits and head to bed, especially when he knows he still has plenty of blow left for at least a couple dozen more lines.

[DrGonzo]

SWIM buys by the 1/2 ounce-- since larger purchases are discounted-- so he usually has quite a bit of coke around begging him, "Snort me! Snooooort meeee!"

His way of stopping for the night is:

1) Put the coke and all paraphenalia away.
2) Take a long shower.
3) Expend some energy grooming SWIM's self (shaving, clipping nails, and brushing teeth)
4) Crawl into bed and turn on some light-hearted programming to pass the time until he can fall asleep.

Step one is necessary, as there's no way SWIM can quit for the night with coke sitting right in front of him.

Steps two and three are good for SWIM because his comedown is more tolerable when he feels clean and well-groomed.

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[hwanner88]

SWIM agrees with putting the coke away and then taking a shower. for some reason a shower tends to snap SWIM out of whatever residual effects he is feeling from the coke buzz and makes it easier to sleep. SWIM has no problem running back to the bag after he's put it away; he used to have such a problem and would be up at 1-2 am on a work night hating himself for it. a few nights of that snapped him out of it though.

SWIM usually finds that he should put the bag away (in a drawer) about a half hour or hour before he -really- wants to stop because there usually is the inevitable urge to go for just one or two more small ones to end the night, so SWIM just started putting it away early knowing he's going to go for one last one (or two once in a while).

[SniffSniffPass]

Ok so SWIM *WINK WINK*, has done cocaine one time only, at a party, he didn't know anyone and usually is a very shy dude, and he was offered cocaine, and for a while he wanted to try it, so he went for it, as soon as he did, he had some really great conversations with people and even got a girl's number who was actually already involved with somebody, WHOM ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO BE AT THE SAME PARTY! It was awesome... umm for him... *WINK WINK*!.

Anyway this guy WHO ISN'T ME BY THE WAY *wink wink*, is going off to college, a big party college, lots of girls, lots of alcohol, and Im pretty sure SWIM is gonna cross paths with a person who will offer SWIM a line, and Im pretty sure that SWIM will go for it.

SWIM doesn't have the adequate funds to finance this sort of addiction, but would SWIY believe that this drug can be held under control? What does SWIY think about this? SWIM doesn't want to ruin his life.

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[Mr Wolf]

Depends on how much of an addictive personality you have.
Red Riding Hood can stretch a gram over a month, just a bit at a time, and quite enjoy it (sometimes...). When it runs out it could be weeks or months before she gets more. A little more indulgence at parties and such, but the white pony has a short leash. It's easier to avoid getting hooked on if one is broke and likes all their stuff and thus wouldn't want to sell any of it to get more.
But realistically, once in awhile usually won't get SWIY hooked. RRH has known people who just indulge at the bigger parties a few times a year and none have gone beyond that. They have their line and they won't cross it (Oh, so many puns )