Embalming Fluid? and PCP/Ketamine

[bud head four20]

my friend Swim just got 10ml of 10%neutral buffered formalin

Ive heard of somoking embalming fluid...BUT is it somthing SWIM should do?

has anyone ever used it or know the effects. any help would be really really helpfull......i hope you can help

[Nicaine]

Ahhhhgh Just slam it man, then they can save time while they wrap you in linen and mount ya in a golden coffin in egypt next to the pyramids..

P.S. sorry, SWIM is caught in a snow fall at the moment, been up all night and couldn't resist. He suggests you try skiing instead, a lot more expensive but he can almost guarantee you'll have more fun. Edited by: Nicaine

[bud head four20]

Ok i guess what was spousto be a joke. ive smoked a few cigaretts
dipped in it but it didnt really do anything for me.if anyone has any
suggestions on what to do with it please tell me.



P.S. Nicaine, SWIM dossent ski, he snowboards. and if you want me to
garantee youll have some like more fun then id suggest you try
speedballs.

[transit]

Use it as intended – as a disinfectant or anti-bacterial
agent.</span>


Here is a quote about formalin:</span>


“Formalin is a derivative of formaldehyde.
Formalin is a mixture of 37-40 percent formaldehyde, water, and usually 10
percent methanol. It is often used as a working solution for tissue fixation,
or as a preservative holding solution for fixed tissues or organ specimens in
pathological laboratories. It is also used to inactivate bacterial
products for toxoid vaccines. It will also kill unwanted viruses that might be
found in the culture as well as serve as an embalming agent. Formaldehyde is a neurotoxin
and carcinogen. It effects the nervous system and known to cause cancer. It may
cause insomnia, coughing, headaches, nausea, nosebleeds, and skin rashes. It
iscommonly known to embalm corpses. It has been said that there is no
safe level of formaldehyde to be ingested into the body.”</span>

[Muirner]

Dont you dry out formaldehyde and it's angel dust? That is what i know angel dust as. If u take the formaldehyde and put it on a small cookie sheet or something, put it in the oven on like 150-200 door 1/2 closed 1/2 open, and let it cook down to a powder u have dust.


As for slamming it, when they embalm a corpus they take the blood out of the body and replace it with formaldehyde, they dont just slam formaldehyde into you.


Muirner

[drug-bot]

Originally Posted by Muirner

Dont you dry out formaldehyde and it's angel dust? That is what i know angel dust as. If u take the formaldehyde and put it on a small cookie sheet or something, put it in the oven on like 150-200 door 1/2 closed 1/2 open, and let it cook down to a powder u have dust.


As for slamming it, when they embalm a corpus they take the blood out of the body and replace it with formaldehyde, they dont just slam formaldehyde into you.


Muirner

no no no no no, bullshit half-retaded myth. embalming fluid is just slang for pcp (as angel dust is also slang for pcp), the two are not one and the same. if you try smoking real embalming fluid it would most likely send you dying to the emergency room (in case your not that clever its toxic), you wouldnt even catch a buzz, itd just be poisoining and organ damage with no pay off.

please do some minor research before posting somthing so retarded, someone could be dumb enough to believe you and die.

pcp- Phencyclidine (a powerful disacociative, originally marketed as a human anestetic)
embalming fluid- formaldihyde (and god knows what else morticians add)

[Jamesthebluewolf]

Originally Posted by drug-bot

(and god knows what else morticians add)

I've always wondered if there are morticians that are necrophiliacs....*shudders*

[Unsolved]

The drug that Muirner is speaking of is called wet. I don't know a whole heck of a lot about it besides the name and you need PCP.

[PenguinPhreak]

Embalming fluid is just a nickname for PCP, its not actually formaldehyde.

[Blue.. Like Water]

Originally Posted by PenguinPhreak

Embalming fluid is just a nickname for PCP, its not actually formaldehyde.

^True. I didn't know that until I was browsing erowid one day.

[transit]

Well I didn’t know that. </span>Thanks for the new (for me) information/terminology
Unsolved and PenguinPhreak. </span>It appears
that this thread is based on confusion between two meanings for the term “embalming
fluid.” </span>Here is what erowid has to say
on this issue:</span>


“</span>There appears to be a current trend of the use of
substances known alternately by the slang names 'embalming fluid', 'fry',
'formaldehyde', 'wet', 'water', or 'amp'. These are sold in a variety of forms
including cannabis joints or regular cigarettes dipped in liquid and cannabis
leaf or tea leaves dipped in liquid. In all of these forms, the material is
then smoked. Despite the variety of names, there is good reason to believe that
these are all various preparations containing PCP.

In most instances PCP is not mentioned when the substance is sold or discussed.
In fact, there are constantly re-circulating rumors that substances being sold
by these names do not contain PCP, but are instead actually the fluid
(formaldehyde) used for embalming as would be used in a mortuary. But there is
evidence to support that this is primarily a case of confused slang terms.
'Embalming Fluid' is a common street slang term for PCP and has been for many
years. PCP can come in liquid form, so the term 'fluid' is fitting. It is
entirely possible (actually quite likely) that the confusion between PCP and
embalming fluid (formaldehyde) has gone so far as to cause a new trend where
PCP is actually mixed with formaldehye (or other 'embalming fluids') and used
as a recreational psychoactive. But there is little evidence that the
formaldehyde itself causes any pleasant or desirable effects.

Embalming fluid, as used in a mortuary, is traditionally made from
formaldehyde. It does not contain PCP. Formaldehyde and PCP are completely
different chemicals, which are not related. <b style="">Formaldehyde is a known carcinogen linked to nasal and lung cancer, and
with possible links to brain cancer and leukemia and should not be smoked[/b].” </span>[emphasis added]</span>

[Nagognog2]

If someone were to offer me formaldehyde to ingest in any form, I would assume they were either the stupidest person I had met that week - or they wanted to cause my death. Not only is formaldehyde a potent carcinogen, it would turn your lungs into leather if you smoked it. It would NOT get you high other than causing anoxia - oxygen starvation caused, in this instance, by lung damage. Can you say Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder? Read: You'll need to wheel a tank of oxygen around with you to breathe. If, after I explained this to the person offering same, giving them the benefit of the doubt that they were just ignorant, they were to make that offer again to myself or a friend - I'd see to it they did not breathe again either.

[hippie_lain]

I dont recomend ever doing pcp even....I didnt it once after drinking soco mixed with beer, vodka, and E&j and woke up with a broken ankle....also got brought home in a cop car and got kicked out of some apartments....maby it was the alcohol

[Unsolved]

No from what i know and have read PCP is a very unpreditable drug. Half the people that do it have no idea what they are doing and can become violent. I don't recomend it to anyone. I hear the hallucinations can be even scarey in nature.

[polloloco001]

isnt PCP made from horse tranquilizers or soemthing.

[transit]

Although it used to be used as a veterinary
anaesthetic it is swim’s understanding that such is no longer the case. </span>Apparently it is relatively easy to synthesize
– much easier than more interesting stuff. </span>

[Nagognog2]

Phencyclidine - PCP - was first marketed by Parke-Davis in the 1950's as a general anesthetic under the trade name Sernylan. However, due to "emergence reactions" it was withdrawn from human use and confined to veterinary medicine. Emergence reactions being massive hallucinations and wild behavior. It is still used in veterinary medicine, but is mostly replaced by other drugs. The story is about the same for ketamine. Used widely as a battlefield anesthetic during the Viet~Nam War, it too was withdrawn due to emergence reactions.


Regards the synthesis of PCP, it is rather simple if you can get your hands on the precursors - which are heavily watched. However, in one stage of the synthesis, you end up releasing large amounts of hydrogen cyanide gas (deadly poison). Not exactly part of having a Good Neighbor Policy in your community. I once met a cop who raided a PCP lab. He was nearly killed by the fumes.

[Alicia]

Also Ketamine is a lot more safer than phencyclidine, considering on how pcps dose curb is lower. lol is the loss of feeling with as in no pain real with pcp? or is that a myth.
I think ketmine can cause loss of feeling with touch and pain senses but you cant walk around as easily u can on pcp with those effects

[machine_elf]

In swim's experience, ketamine is to be done lying or sitting down, one doesn't move, its a very powerful catalyst to throw you into psychadelicspace. PCP appears to be more versatile in that you are much more mobile and swim feels that it is less of a psychonautic tool and (imo) more of a gratuitous and hedonistic drug.

[Nicaine]

This thread has gone completely off-topic, SWIM would like to see it either back on track or closed by a moderator...

[Nagognog2]

Thread title changed to reflect contents.

[darkglobe]

There's a lot of widely-documented ambiguity regarding embalming fluid/formaldehyde/PCP.

Ketamine, on the other hand, is fairly simple. Knows as Vitamin K, Special K (also a bloody good Placebo song) and simply just 'K'.

Formaldehyde is baaaaaaaaad.

[VitaminK22]

Alot of people say it's best to sit or lye down while on ketamine but whenever swim takes it he always wants to stand up and move around because it makes him feel like he's floating instead of walking, as if he was moving his body with his mind, not his legs and muscles. Its only until swim start K-holing that he starts moving like a robot (usually due to the feeling of falling through the ground or a wormhole or somethin)

[zera]

Despite the obvious reasons not to smoke formaldehyde people actually do. My uncle's funeral home was burglarized and the thing that they took was the embalming fluid. What a bunch of idiots, who the hell would rob a funeral home to try to get high off of something that will just burn your lungs. You'd think before committing a felony to try to get high that you would spend 5 minutes on erowid.

I may be wrong here, but I believe PCP has activity as a dopamine reuptake inhbitor, which is the primary reason that users tend to be so much more active than ketamine users. While the person in the k-hole can't even stand up, the PCP user is stimulated and has the energy to move around and due to the dopamine thinks they're invincible (not good when combined with the total lack of judgement from the NMDA antagonism).

Totally off-topic, but there's a very famous proof from computer science called the PCP theorem, which basically proves that any proof (of the mathematical type) can be checked in a constant number of bits. Pretty profound stuff, what's it's basically saying that if I want to prove to you that some statement is correct, and you want to make sure that my proof is correct, then you no matter how long my proof is, a hundred letters, a million letters, and hundred billion trillion letters, you can check it for a very high degree of accuracy by only reading 15 letters or less.

I've always liked to imagine that total cosmic understanding will result from thinking about and understanding the PCP theorem while high on PCP.

[superman555]

ok simple here


pcp=tranquilizers=

embalming fluid=formaldehyde=actually smoking poison=

why not dip it in bleach and smoke it