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Plants Containing DMT and Relative Advantages of Each

Hope it didn't exist such a thread already...

This is actually the best list of DMT containing plants that I found in
the net. I posted it here again not only to collect all the data about
the topic and to add some more user based knowledge but also because
some of the sites (e.g. Vovins Extraction page) were getting offline in
the last months.



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Acacia complanata, confusa, nilotica, simplicifolia, tortilis, nerifolia, Phlebophylla (Leguminosae)

Contains tryptamines. More reaserch needs to to be done in the Acacia species.

Picture of Acacia complanata





Acacia longifolia

Fast growing scrub with large willow
like foliage and deep golden flower sprays. Found to contain 0.2%
tryptamine alkaloid in bark region and leaves (2mg DMT per gram dried
material) Tryptamines may possibly be a constitute of the flowers. (Gnostic Garden catalog)
Picture of Acacia longifolia.





Acacia maidenii

Is reported ro contain 0.6% alkaloids of which 1/3 is N-methyl-tryptamin, and 2/3 is DMT.
"Alkaloids of the Australian Leguminosae-The occurence of
Methylated tryptamines in Acacia maidenii"Australian journal of
chemistry, 1965, 18 433-434.

Picture of Acacia maidenii




In J.Ott´s "Ayahuasca Analouges"Acacia Maideniiis reported to contains 0.36% DMT in bark, Acacia phlebophylla contains 0.3% DMT in leaves, Acacia Simplicifolia has an high 0.81& DMT in stems, bark regions and Acacia nubica(leavea), Acaica confusa(stems) ,Acacia polyacantha(leaves) Acacia senegal(leaves). The above listed all has an trace amount of tryptamines (less than 0.02%).





Acaica simplex( formerly A.simplicifolia)

In this Acacia tryptamine has been found in a concentration of 3.6%, of which 40% is NMT. 25%DMT in the stem-bark.




Acacia phlebophylla 0.3% DMT (leaf)





Anadenanthera peregrina, colubrina, cebil, excelsa (Piptadenia macrocarpa)

Contains
up to 1-2% alkaloids in the black seeds/pods and bark (10-20mg alkaloid
per gram dried material) How much of it is DMT or 5-MeO-DMT i havent
been able to find. Active alkaloid is DMT, bufotenin and 5-MeO-DMT
Indians tribes uses the grounded seeds in a entheogenic cohoba and Yopo
snuff, which is blown into the nostrils through bamboo tubes or snuffed
by birdbone tubes. Picture of A. peregrina





Arundo donax "giant river reed" (Gramineae)

Contains
up to 3% DMT. The flowers and roots contains DMT. The roots not only
contains DMT and 5-MeO-NMT but also bufotenine. The flowers are free
from bufotenine2. In J.Ott´s "Ayahuasca Analouges" Arundo donax only has a trace amount of DMT in leaves, roots and flowers. Christian Rätsch "The Dictionary of Sacred and Magical Plants" 1992 p.152 2Alexander Shulgin "TIHKAL" 1997 p.261.
Picture of Arundo donax





Banisteriopsis rusbyana or "Diplopterys cabrerana" (Malpighiaceae)

leaves
from one specimen in a ayahuasca admixture in Peru has been shown to
contain from 0.17%-1.74% DMT (from 4 seperate studies)1 Contains a
wealth of tryptamines with DMT as major alkaloid and NMT, 5-MeO-DMT and
bufotenine. In "TIHKAL" this species contains 1.3% DMT. Jonathan Ott "Ayahuasca Analouges" 1994 p.38





Banisteriopsis muricata (malpighiaceae)

May contain DMT in stems!. DMT has also been found in Banisteriopsis argenta.





Delosperma cooperi (Aizoceae)

A sprawling free
branching subsroub succulent with bright green glacous leaves and
silken purple or pink flowers. Analyses has indicated that many
Delosperma sp. contains quite substantial amounts of DMT and
N-methyltryptamine in the leaves and branches "River & Pilet 1971". This particular species often seeming quite rich (according to Gnostic Gardens catalog) Picture of Delosperma cooperi





Delosperma lyndenbergense

Has also been tested positive for DMT.





Desmanthus illinoensis

Contains up to 2% DMT per gram in roots. Alexander Shulgin "TIKHAL"


In Jonathan Ott´s Ayahuasca analogues, the findings differs:


DMT (root) 0.200% (dry material)


DMT (root bark) 0.340% (dry material)







Desmanthus leptolobus

Is said to contain higher
amounts of DMT, than D.illinoensis. In both species, the bark from the
roots must be stripped immediatly after harvest. When dry the bark is
difficult to strip.


J. Dekorne "Psychedelic shamanism" 1994.





Desmodium gangeticum,gyrans,pulchellum,tilaefolium,triflorum (Fabaceae)

Some
contains b-carbolines (MAO-inhibitors) others tryptamines. Desmodium
gyrans (telegraph plant) Considered to be an ayahuasca, Yopo analoge,
the plant is an extremely sensetive one with purple flowers.(Legendary Etnobotanical resources catalog). Leaves, root, stem and seeds contain DMT and 0.06% 5-MeO-DMT of wet weight Simple indole bases of Desmodium gangeticum. Aust. J Chem. 22, 275-277 Banerjee, P.K & Ghosal, S 1969.
Picture of Desmodium puchellum





D. gyrans

(leaves,roots), D.pulchellum (whole plant), D. racemosum (whole plant) and D. triflorum (roots).The above 4 species contains only trace amounts of DMT. Jonathan Ott "Ayahuasca Analouges" p.82-83





Dictyoloma incanescens (citrus family Rutaceae)

5-MeO-DMT 0.04% (picrate salt).





Dutaillyea oreophila (rutaceae)

Contains Hordenin and 2-methyl-6-methoxy-b-carbolines in addition to 5-MeO-DMT Alexander Shulgin "TIHKAL" 1997.





D.drupacea (a shrub from New Caledonian)

Contains only 5-MeO-DMT to the extent of over 0.4%


In "TIHKAL" Alexander Shulgin writes:" from a kilo of powdered leaves, there was actually isolated 450mg of an alkaloid fraction that was 98% 5-MeO-DMT."





Evodia rutacarpa (rutaceae)

Contains 5-MeO-DMT in its
fruits and roots. The rue plants of the genus Evodia, has been used in
tea because the blossoms are extremly aromatic. This species is used
traditionally from the Phillipines, through Southeast Asia and into
China. Some of the Evodia species contains Phenethylamines and
carbolines.





Echinocereus triglochidiatus, Salm-dyckianus (cacti)

Is
common in Mexico, where the Tarahumare Indians uses them in their
festivals. Said to contain 5-MeO-DMT. "Hallucinogenic plants of the
Tarahumara"
J. Ethnopharmacology 1, 23-48 Bye, R.A. 1979.
Picture of Echinocereus triglodatius





Horsfieldia supurba (Myristicaceae)

An Malaysian tree with 5-MeO-DMT in its leaves.





Justicia pectoralis var. Stenophylla (Acanthaceae)

Used as an additive to entheogenic epená snuffs by various Waiká Indian
groups. Some Tests has indicated the presence of DMT. Schultes & hofmann "Plants of the gods"Picture of Justica pectoralis





Lespedeza bicolor

DMT, 5-MeO-DMT (roots and leaves) "Tryptamine and related Comfounds in plants". Phytochemistry 16 171-175 Smith, T.A. 1977. Shrub 3-10" with arching branches and oval leaves.





Lespedeza thunbergii

May contain tryptamines. More rescheach is needed to be conducted in this family.
Grows larger than L.bicolor. In Japan Lespedeza has an important use as a medicinal.





Limonia acidissima or L. crenulata or Hesperethusa crenulata (rutaceae)

Contains substantial amounts of DMT. In Burma the women uses the powdered stems as a face paint known as "Tanaka."





Melicope leptococca (rutaceae)Also a bushy shrub from New Caledonia tests has shown 0.2% alkaloids with 5-MeO-DMT being only 35% of the total alkaloids.





Mimosa hostilis, nigra, pudica tenuiflora, verrucosa, scabrella (Leguminosae)

Mimosa
hostilis contains 0.57% N,N dimethyltryptamin (DMT). M.pudica has the
lowest tryptamine concentration. Low amounts of tryptamines and MMT has
been found in Mimosa somnians "Jonathan Ott: Pharmacoteon s.174-175 1993"

Picture of Mimosa hostilis



M. hostilis, M. niagra and M. verruosa were used as the basis of the entheogenic brew "Vinho de jurema" in Brazil.


"According to Legendary Etnobotanical Resources M.tenuiflora has a very high tryptamine concentration in roots and stems."Picture of Mimosa scabrella





Mistletoe (Loranthaceae)

The berries contains 1-ethyltryptamine (an true isomer of DMT with a 1-ethyl rather than N,N-dimethyl. Alexander Shulgin "TIHKAL"1997.





Mucuna pruriens "velvet bean"(Leguminosae)


Phytochemical research has shown it contains DMT, 5-MeO-DMT and
bufotenin in leaves, stem and fruit/bean. The powdered seeds are used
as an aphrodisiac in India. Also a source of L-dopa. "Alkaloids of Mucuna pruriens". Chemistry and Pharmacology. Planta Med. 19, 279 and "The dictionary of Sacred and Magical Plants" Dr.Christian Rätsch





Nectandra megapotamica (Lauraceae)

Contains NMT according to Alexander Shulgins "TIHKAL" 1997





Osteophloem platyspermum (myristicaceous plants)

Possibility of DMT and 5-MeO-DMT. Analaysis has shown it to consist of only N-methyltryptophan methyl ester.





Pagamea macrophylla

Reports says that Barasana shamans
of Columbia makes a entheogenic snuff from the powdered leaves. That
could indicate a presence of tryptamines.





Pandanus sp.(Pandanaceae family)

The nuts have been
analysed positive for DMT. On Indian Ocean Islands the sap is used as
aphrodisiac. P.utilis has long leathery leaves sharply serrated. Seed
pods look like huge pineapples."Legendary Etnobotanical Resources
cataloge"
Picture of Pandanus fruits





Petalostylis labicheoides(Caesalpiniaceae/Leguminosae)

Mimosa
relative. Known to contain several tryptamines in the leaves and/or
seeds of some species as well as MaO-inhibitors in concentrations up to
0.5% with tryptamines being the major alkaloid concentrated in leaves
and stems.





P.cassiodies

0.4 -0.5% tryptamines, DMT and other
alkaloids, in leaves and stems "Alkaloids of the Australian Leguminosae
VI". Aust. J.Chem 19, 893.





Phyllodium pulchellum

Dried plant material produced
0.2% 5-MeO-DMT and small amounts of DMT "Indole-3-alkylamine Bases of
Desmodium pulchellum". J, Org. Chem. 31, 2284.





Prestonia amazonica

May contain DMT"Smith 1977".





Punica granatum (Punicaceae)

DMT in root cortex. Once thougt to be the acient Haoma Christian Rätsch "The Dictionary of Sacred and Magical Plants"1992 p.207





Phalaris arundinaea (reed canary grass)

Many
Phalaris.sp contains 5-MeO-DMT and DMT in different amounts. Other
species where tryptamines has been detected: P.tuberosa,
P.brachystacys, P.canariensis.

Picture of Phalaris aurundinacea


Phalaris arundinaea


Source 1.DMT 0.060%


Source 2.Alkaloids 0.004-0.121%





Phalaris tuberosa


Source 1. DMT 0.100% 5-MeO-DMT 0.022% 5-OH-DMT 0.005%


Source 2. DMT 0.170% 5-MeO-DMT 0.060%


Source 3. alkaliods 0.007-0.18%






Psychotria viridis (Rubiaceae), psychotriaefolia, P.expansa, P.insularum, P.forsteriana, P.carthaginensis, P.hirta, P.rostrata, P.nervosa, P. rufipilis and other unidentified species.

leaves
of P.viridis contains DMT (0.10%-0.16%). The major alkaloid in three
samples of P.viridis from Peru was found to be DMT at a level of
1.02-1.58mg per gram of dried leaves. An analysis of an ayahuasca
sample found 0.16-0.22% DMT from an unidentified Psychotria species.
(possibly P.cart, P. alba, margineta, P.horizonta).



Not all P.species has been analysed and some dosent even contain DMT.
Experiments by J.Ott with ayahuasca analouges included 50 psychotria
leaves combined with the MaO-inhibitor Peganum harmala seeds (4 grams )
and between 25-55 gram of Desmanthus illinoensis roots . With Psycotria
Viridis one would need 20g of leaves (equals 40mg DMT) in combination
with 3-4g Peganum Harmala seeds.

Johanthan Ott "Pharmacotheon" 1993. Picture of Peganum harmala

In J.Ott´s Ayahuasca Analouges a average DMT% is calculated from 4
alkaloid analysis with Diplopterys cabrerana1 and Psychotria Viridis.
With the first plant (1) an average at 0.68% were shown and with(2)
0.20% DMT. Picture of Psychotria viridis





Phragmites australis (Poaceae, Gramineae "grass")

Rich in DMT which are found in the root system.
Picture of Praghmites australis





Salvia divinorum (Labiatae)

Also called Ska pastora,
Hierba de la Virgen, Pipiltzintzintli, Diviners mint. It´s an extremely
rare cultigen found only humid forest ravines and similar areas of a
small part of the Sierra Mazateca in Mexico. The focus of much recent
interest in all corners of entheobotany, contain unique psychoactive
diterpenes similar in effect to DMT, and maybe even stronger when the
extract is smoked. A lot of companies are selling the plant today along
with dried leaves, tinctures and extracts redisposed on leaves.( it
contains no tryptamine! but i just had to add this interesting plant to
my list)


Picture of Salvia divinorum





Testulea gabonensis (Ochnaceae)

A tree-shrub from Cameroon found to contain DMT as well as NMT (and its formamide) in the trunk bark. Alexander Shulgin "TIHKAL" 1997.





Trichocerus terschekii (cacti) "cardon grande"

DMT has been isolated from this species from North-Western Argentina. Schultes & Hofmann "Plants of The Gods" p. 58. 1979. and from Dr.Christian Rätsch "The Dictionary of Sacred and Magical Plants" p. 205. 1992.


Picture of Trichocereus terschekii





Vepris ampody (rutaceous plant)

contains up to 0.22 % N,N-dimethyltryptamin J. Ott "Pharmacotheon" P. 246 1993.





Virola theiodora (Myristiceae), cuspidata, calophylla, calophylloidea, elongata, rufula, venosa, pavonis, peruviana, carinata, V.surinamensis.

Used
in snuffs like: epenà snuff and paricà snuff of the waikà indians. The
bark contains up to 0.25%DMT by dry weight, and the flowers twice as
much. 5-MeO-DMT is also present in at sizeable levels,and both of the
mono-methyl homolouges, NMT and 5-MeO-NMT has been found in various
parts of the plant . Alexander Shulgin "Tihkal" 1997. In Peter Staffords "Psychedelic Encyclopedia"
an analysis from an sample of Waiká snuff made from V.theiodora resin
had a unusually high alkaloid content of up to 11%, consisting mainly
of 5-Methoxy-DMT (5-MeO-DMT).




Virola calophylla


Origin: Manaus Brazil (dry plant material)


Bark:


DMT0.008%
5-MeO-DMT trace amounts


Roots:


DMT and 5-MeO-DMTtrace amounts


Flowers, shoots:


DMT0.185%
N-Methyltryptamine (MMT)0.008%


Leaves:


DMT0.149%
MMT0.006%
Jonathan Ott "Ayahuasca analogues"






Virola rufula


5-MeO-DMT0.190%


DMT0.008%


5-MeO-MMTtrace amounts


2-Methyl-6-MeO-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-_-carboline
(6-MeO-TH C)trace amounts


Roots:


5-MeO-DMT0.135%


5-MeO-MMT0.006%


DMT0.001%


6-MeO-THCtrace amounts


Leaves:


DMT0.092%


MMT0.006%




Virola theiodora


Origin: Manaus Brazil (dry plant material)


Bark:


DMT0.130%
5-Meo-DMT 0.110%
6-MeO-THC0.010%
N-Methyltry ptamine (MMT)0.003%


Roots:


5-MeO-DMT0.010%
DMT 0.004%
5-MeO-MMT0.003%


Flower, shoots:


DMT0.440%
MMT0.033%


Leaves:


DMT0.044%
5-MeO-DMT trace amounts


Virola theiodora


Origin: Tototobi Brazil (dry plant material)


Bark:


DMT0.033%
5-Meo-DMT 0.062%


Leaves:


DMT0.021%
Methyl-THC&nbsp ;trace amounts


Jonathan Ott "Ayahuasca Analogues"






Picture of Virola theiodoraPicture of Virola calophylla





Virola surinamensis

May possibly contain large amounts of entheogenic tryptamines, due to its use as an ayahuasca admixture.





Urtica pilulifera (Urticaceae)

På dansk Brændenælder. Contains bufotenin. The leaves are used to make herbal tea.





Zanthoxylum arborescens, Zanthoxylum procerum. (rutaceous plant)

Contains some DMT in leaves.





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Bufo alvarius (toad)5-MEO-DMT is a constituent with a
concentration up to 150mg per gram of dried gland tissue, and bufotenin
5mg per gram. The multicellular glands concentrated on the neck and
limbs of B.alvarius produce a viscious milky-white venom that contains
large amounts of 5-MeO-DMT. If vaporised by heat and taken into the
lungs in the form of smoke, an intense entheogenic experince is
produced.





Paramuricea chameleon (marine coral organisme) "Gorgonian Seafan"

Contains DMT and NMT Alexander Shulgin "TIHKAL"






This is the original source: http://hjem.get2net.dk/gaffri/page6.html


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As a practical matter, the cultivation of DMT-bearing plants is limited by a combination of personal choices and available resources. For most people the following classifications apply:
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Indoor tropical plants-pretty much anything goes here:
#1 Mimosa Hostilis: typical concentration of dried rootbark = 0.6% DMT. Major issue: time requirement to grow for rootbark to reach typically harvested thickness: 2-1/2 years.
#2 Psychotria Viridis: typical concentration of dried leaf: 0.1% DMT. Major issues: Low DMT leaf concentration, low rate of seed germination, high humidity requirements, low growth rate below 27C(80F). Most people's choice.
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Outdoor plants with significant DMT content:
#1 Acacia Obtusifolia: typical concentration of dried young leaf = 0.3% DMT. Able to endure frost and occasional brief snowfalls. Best potential candidate for practical temperate zone large-scale DMT production. Tree = low suspicion level.
#2 Desmanthus Illinoisis: typical concentration of dried root = 0.02% DMT. Able to survive the most extreme winter conditions. Hardy and quick to produce seeds. Low DMT root concentration. Legal feedstock crop above suspicion.
#3 Phalaris: extremely variable concentration of dried grass blades. 5-meo also present at levels sufficient to undesirably dominate alkaloid effects. Low DMT concentration at best. The stuff of myths. A complete waste of time...
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All leaf sources, although handy to harvest, also suffer from environmental variability of DMT concentration and also include undesirable plant products such as oils requiring specific purification techniques to eliminate their presence. Root sources are more difficult to harvest, produce less DMT per unit acre under cultivation, but have much less undesirable plant products requiring elimination and are more predictable in their DMT concentration...Mars

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The trichocereus terschekii entry is incorrect. The reference has been traced.
No cacti so far have contained DMT.
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Are you sure? I am almost positive that a cactus, possibly as Trichocereus spp., showed trace amounts of DMT in its
alkaloidal profile upon chromatographic assay. I believe that this data came from either TIHKAL or Pharmcotheon, but
possibly elsewhere. Based on the chromatography data, it looks as though the DMT concentration was far too low to produce any activty, even with b-carbolines.

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It was in Plants Of the Gods and Shultes admitted to a secretarial error in the
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SWIM has three Acacia Obtusifolia plants around 5 inches tall (13 cm). Healthy with reddish parts on the leaves. Although they do grow very very slow...
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Herbs for the alkoloids

Living in Sydney, it seems the only plants that SWIM would have local to farm the DMT would be the Acacias... SWIM has not read anything on Acacia extraction.

Is there anyone else in Sydney (or even Aus, or NZ?) that has success with this?

SWIM can order phalaris online, and its very cheap too. There seemed to be mixed reports about this grass tho.
SWIM is more interested in smoking the DMT than an Ayahuasca tea, with that said he has had neither and is keen for both!

Are there any other herbs or plants the grow local to Sydney that can be used?
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This is the deal:
Acacia baileyana 0.02% tryptamine and ß-carbolines, in the leaf
Acacia maidenii DMT and NMT, in the stem bark
A. albida DMT, in the leaf
A. confusa DMT and NMT, in the leaf, stem and bark
Acacia cultriformis tryptamine, in the leaf and stem
A. laeta DMT, in the leaf
A. mellifera DMT, in the leaf
A. nilotica DMT, in the leaf
A. phlebophylla DMT, in the leaf
A. podalyriaefolia tryptamine, in the leaf
A. senegal DMT, in the leaf
A. seyal DMT, in the leaf
A. sieberiana DMT, in the leaf)
A. simplicifolia DMT and NMT, in the leaf, stem and trunk bark
A. vestita tryptamine, in the leaf and stem

Any of these should be workable with a simple A/B extraction.

The taxonomy and collection is up to you.

The Marsofold tek would probably work for most with the addition of a defat step where applicable.

Swim should ask swim about all this once swim has collected some plant material to ask swim about.
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The only Acacias that reliably produce DMT are Phlebophylla, Simplicifolia, and Obtusifolia. Phlebs are almost extinct so it would be a moral crime to harvest them. Simplicifolia has a poor alkaloid profile, with the extracted DMT diluted with lots of other alkaloids that end up weakening the final product. That leaves Obtusifolia as the best one to grow.
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SWIM has about a pound of Virola Surinamensis. Has anyone experimented with this and if so what would be an appropriate starting dose. SWIM cannot use huasca combos because I take citrolopram.

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Re: Plants Containing DMT and Relative Advantages of Each

SWIM was considering ordering some Illinois Bundleflower Root (Desmanthus Illinois) from a nameless retailer based on the huge amount of nnDMT reported by Shulgin, but after reading this, SWIM is wondering if there is a huge amount of variation in the plants, or if Shulgin was mistaken... has this plant been tried by anyone with decent results?
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Acacia trees containing DMT

So SWIM and some of his friends are definitely going to try DMT, but first they have to get it. In the immediate vicinity the only plants SWIM can find that seem to contain DMT are acacia trees, of which SWIM has found several. However, SWIM isn't 100% sure that these particular Acacia trees do contain DMT. Wikipidia seems to imply so, but SWIM isn't really sure if he should trust it.

Acacia Phlebophylla
Acacia Melanoxylon
Acacia Pycantha
Acacia Albida
Acacia Baileyana

Helpful info would include which would be easiest to adapt to a simple extraction tek, how to go about that, or which would have the highest yield. Thank you for your help anyone.
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Re: Acacia trees containing DMT

Do a quick forum search (on navigation bar near top of screen), I'm sure this information has been covered.
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Re: Plants Containing DMT and Relative Advantages of Each

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Re: Plants Containing DMT and Relative Advantages of Each

Someone I met was wondering if the acid/base extraction was actually overkill for some situations (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid-base_extraction for a general explanation). With some plants, one could simply take a pyrex cup with 2 cups of water in it, add a tablespoon of vinegar, and microwave it for 10 minutes, then drink it after it cools. That is, if you've got some beta-carbolines handy to make it orally active. The idea being that DMT and 5-MeO-DMT while practically insoluble in neutral water, become soluble in acidified water. The microwave helps too. Also, with fresh plants, freezing them while fresh helps explode all the cell walls when the ice expands.

At the same time, this same SWIM was wondering, is there an easy way, maybe with an a/b technique or something simpler, to separate out the 5-MeO-DMT from the straight DMT. This could make some of the above plants even more useful.
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Re: Plants Containing DMT and Relative Advantages of Each

While likely useful for that fresh-from-the-garden cup of ayahuasca to serve the Jehovas' Witnesses who stop by for a 6-hour "chat" - Many people want the crystal-option for dancing with the gnomes. For these a full-blown extraction is best using the most DMT-laden plant material available.
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Re: Plants Containing DMT and Relative Advantages of Each

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Anadenanthera peregrina, colubrina, cebil, excelsa (Piptadenia macrocarpa)

Contains
up to 1-2% alkaloids in the black seeds/pods and bark (10-20mg alkaloid
per gram dried material) How much of it is DMT or 5-MeO-DMT i havent
been able to find. Active alkaloid is DMT, bufotenin and 5-MeO-DMT
Indians tribes uses the grounded seeds in a entheogenic cohoba and Yopo
snuff, which is blown into the nostrils through bamboo tubes or snuffed
by birdbone tubes. Picture of A. peregrina
According to Ott, A. peregrina has:

* Bufotenine - up to 7.4 % (74 mg per gram)
* DMT - up to 0.16% (0.16 mg per gram)
* 5-MeO-DMT - up to 0.04% (0.4 mg per gram)

According to Ott, A. colubrina has:

* Bufotenine - up to 12.4% (124 mg per gram!)
* DMT and 5-MeO-DMT - 0.06%

So these beans are not good sources of DMT or 5-MeO-DMT. They are the best known sources of bufotenine in the world though. Yeah, I know, you probably heard that bufotenine sucks right? Well that’s what I thought until My Dodo experienced calcium bufotenate down in Brazil. Apparently you can easily convert bufotenine into calcium bufotenate. Calcium bufotenate is REALLY NICE, more hallucinogenic then DMT and 5-MeO-DMT, lasts much longer, and has with none of the nasty side effects of other forms of bufotenine.

Check out Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anadenanthera_peregrina

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Re: Plants Containing DMT and Relative Advantages of Each

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According to Ott, A. peregrina has:
Apparently you can easily convert bufotenine into calcium bufotenate.
Details?

Swim has smoked freebase extract of cebil and enjoyed it quite a bit. More like 5MEO than NN.

How is calcium bufotenate ingested?
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Re: Plants Containing DMT and Relative Advantages of Each

What she said! The article clearly explains the many myths and mistakes that were made with bufotenine, then goes on to clearly explain why calcium bufotenate is the answer. It states that oral administration of the other forms is a bad idea, but doesn't say if that's true of calcium bufotenate. It explains still relevant details of traditional methods of creating calcium bufotenate, and mentions that "modern non-traditional use of baking soda or ammonia as a substitute for calcium hydroxide has been used with limited success." It was probably outside the scope of a wikipedia article, but given all the mistakes that were made in the past, it would be nice to see a definitive tek somewhere, including drying and administration.
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Re: Plants Containing DMT and Relative Advantages of Each

i cant see wu zhu yu on the list or maybe its just because i dont know the real name for it.does anyone have any info about this chinese herb,apparantley it can be bought on the cheap from chinese herb shops,but does it contain only nndmt,and if so does it have enough to consider it worth while for extraction.any info folks please.
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Re: Plants Containing DMT and Relative Advantages of Each

aaaa now swim sees it on the list,swim did not know its other name was evodia fruit.swim is a bit gutted that it only contains 5meo dmt as he was hoping he had found a cheap sorce of spice.swim went in to the local chinese herb shop and they sell it for £5 per 200 grams.swim thinks because its so cheap he may try an extraction of this 5meo spice.any info on extracting this would be helpfull.swims not sure if he would have to defat and then extract using the same method as an mimosa extraction.....anyone tryed this.
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Re: Plants Containing DMT and Relative Advantages of Each

Has anyone tried or thought of trying a extraction from Albizia julibrissin commonly called "mimosa", "silk tree", and "silky acacia"?

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