Oral use - basic/specific questions about CWE

[chronman]

swim has 4 5/500 hydrocodone apap and 2 30/300 codeine apap. can swim crush and mix both the codeine and hydro for the CWE? or is it best to do 2 seperate CWEs(swim assumes he can since they're both opiates but wants to be sure)?

most explanations of CWEs are with 10-20 or more pills and use 50-100 ml of water. swim was wondering how much water should be used for just 6 pills (or 4 and 2 if swim needs to do two extractions). swim heard that if too much water is used the final product won't be as pure or something..

ONE more question, there have been several suggestions on what to use for filtration. swim prefers the t-shirt method because u can really squeeze the shit out of it, but will that push some of the APAP through?

swim lied, 1 more MINI question, lol. swim's read a lot of procedures, but none say how long to shake the mixture or how long to keep it in the freezer. swim would just like an estimated time, he knows not very long, but is it possible to shake the mixture too much?

[miggeth]

1. Swim don't know for sure but has had bad experiences mixing opiates, swim would keep them seperate.

2. Use cotton first to get most of the apap out fast, then use a fine coffee filter to filter again to get clear solution. Swim would never take something only filtered with cotton.

3. Dont' need to shake at all. Keeps for a while maybe 3 months, but swim always makes it fresh.

[chronman]

could someone please confirm whether or not the CWE process will be affected at all by mixing crushed codeine and vicodin? and swims heard a lot of different opinions on how much water to use. based on his research it seems for 6 pills 35ml would be enough water, what do swiy think?

[miggeth]

The extraction would work, how the mixture of those two things taken at the same time would affect swiy is unknown. Swim vomited after taking codeine and Tramadol.

The amount of water doesn't make that much difference, just use enough to make it fairly watery and no more, but it all gets absorbed in the end anyway, just depends how fast swiy wants it to, less water = faster

[nevelshaze]

i think the tshirt method is fine,swim switched to it and more apap does get sqeezed through but its speeds up the process so doing a second filtration with a proper filter is needed absolutly. i think its 2.5ml of water for every pill approx. to time if the freezer. swim usually does 20 minutes. 15 is okay if its a cold freezer but 20 is on the safe side. 25 is good to but swim noticed its freezing a bit at 27-30 minutes. swim stirs when he puts it to dissolve but DOES NOT shake or stirr when its cooling in the freezer as this will just make the apap dissovle more an thats not what u want at that point,

swim also has a similer question, swim uses tylenol ones. but swim also has about 15 or 10 aspirin with codeine. would dissolving these with the tylenol be dangerous because their differen chemicals? or should swim also perform 2 cwe 1 with the aspirins and 1 with the tylenols and then take them booth togetheR? are there any negative effects ,because the end result is mostly codeine either way but with a bit of that acylic acid(or whatever the aspirin stuff is called) and a bit of apap.