Drug info - Paramol: Dihydrocodiene... How many?

[steve51184]

hi there my cute little bunny rabbit has a question.. he wants to know the best dose and how to take Dihydrocodiene from Paramol there 7.46mg Dihydrocodiene and 500mg Paracetamol and he's searched the forum (yes bunny rabbits can do that ) and has found 60mg is a good dose to start but that means 8 tablets totalling 59.68mg Dihydrocodiene and 4g Paracetamol but is it safe to take that much Paracetamol?

mr. bunny rabbit is awaiting your response

[ConcertaXL]

4g is the safe maximum dose of paracetamol in a WHOLE 24 HOUR PERIOD. Taking that much in one go could be seriously harmful to the liver. If your cute rabbit is going to take Paramol always do a CWE- don't take the stupid risk of ending up in hospital or dead.

If rabbit can obtain DHC or DF118 tablets (called diffies or duncan flockharts in some places) your bunny will only need 1-2 for a 60mg dose and there is no paracetamol involved. Does it know anyone who is prescribed and willing to help out, or could it hop to a street dealer in your part of the UK?

[steve51184]

thank you for the reply you've made mr bunny very happy.. now about the DHC or DF118 tablets mr bunny knows no one who is prescribed or even a street dealer so i think mr bunny needs to try a CWE unless swiy has any other suggestions..?

also on a related note what's the best thing mr bunny can buy from a chemist without a prescription?

[yaba]

NO !!!! Look for cold water extractions (CWE) or try to get some illegally without paracetamol. Dihydrocodeine come in many form's without paracetamol. Use the search engine !

[steve51184]

i've tried the search but i can't find anything good... all mr bunny wants is something he can buy over the counter with codeine and nothing else.. any suggestions for mr bunny?

[ConcertaXL]

best non-script opiate is either solpadeine migraine (sounds less suspicious than asking for nurofen plus and also cheaper)= 12.8mg codeine and 200mg ibuprofen. can still be cwe'd. or panadol ultra= 12.8/500 co-codamol. definite cwe needed

if mr bunny is uncomfortable with a cold water extraction there is j collis brownes mixture (1mg morphine every teaspoon, a bottle would be equal to 18 paramol (20mg morph= 135mg dhc). tastes bad though .gees linctus is another one but most chemists dont sell that any more

Bunny can also potentiate the high of codeine or dihydrocodeine (or morph if you go for the liquid) by taking phenergan (one 25mg tab- any more could knock you out). boots and some other chemists sell it but its locked away or in the dispensary. one would need to request it by name. also if one has a baby rabbit or child do not ask while in store with them- there was a problem with it being used to sedate little ones which was the reason for its low profile in pharmacies now (& the reformulation of medised.) ask for tablets of 25mg, never liquid, it works out MASSIVELY cheaper per dose.

[steve51184]

interesting and i'll keep that in mind for mr bunnys second try so thank you ConcertaXL!!

but for now i have 7.46/500 paramol's so mr bunny will need to do a CWE but i can't seem to find him the best guide on here as there's many.. can you please point me to the best one please? also any advice you had for my bunny would be awsome

[ConcertaXL]

Reproduced from a previous codeine topic:
Here are some tips.

1. METHODS OF FILTRATION
Your chosen method of filtration will greatly affect how much Paracetamol is in your end product. The best methods are below:

1.1) Lab Grade Filters
Okay, not everyone has access to these, but if you are or know somebody at school... Acquire some from there. Get somebody at school to buy them. Serious, if you need them for 'experiments', what's wrong with that?
Aside from a local school/college/university, there are plenty of companies who will sell these harmless products to individuals. Check your yellow pages.

1.2) Coffee Filters
These work almost as well as the lab grade variety, and will filter considerably faster. The only downside is accuracy. If you follow acexnx316's advice and filter numerous times (3-4 is ideal), then you should be fine. This may sound stupid, but after searching local supermarkets I can't actually find any...

2 THE TECHNICAL STUFFS
How you perform your CWE, and your level of caution and cleanliness, will also affect how 'clean' your end product is. Below are some tips on the general method and uses of equipment.
????: Drugs Forum http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9829

2.1) Crushing Your Pills
I know I am making this sound like rocket science - and it isn't - so for that I apologise. It's worth noting that such a piss-easy process can be turned to shit with the first sign of carelessness.
Much of SWIM's experience with Co-Codamol pills has led him to believe that this is the first part where things can start to go tits up. This is what he tells me....
Always use a pill crusher or some form of enclosed/sealed thing to crush your pills in. I know that's not strictly scientific, but what I basically mean is don't get crummy white powder all over your hands/work area. KEEP EVERYTHING CLEAN!

2.2) Dissolving Your Crushed Pills
This is where many opinions will differ. I'll just tell you how SWIM does it. Unless you're looking for the highest possible yield from your pills, just follow this:
1. CAREFULLY put your pills into chosen container.
2. Add water about 30 degrees centigrade to it. Don't use too much. Let's say about half a glass for say 10 Co-Codamols.
3. Stir until as much pill is dissolved as possible.
4. Cool your mixture to approx 4 degrees centigrade. Just make sure it's COLD.

2.3) Filtering The Shit Out Of It
Now then... sorry for the longwinded crap before I got to this. This is how SWIM does it:
1. Fold your chosen filter into the correct shape.
2. Make sure your filter fits like a glove into say, a funnel.
3. Pour your mixture in, ensuring NONE escapes the filter. Pour it all in, settled shit and all. This will take a while longer, but ensures more Codeine
4. Ignore number 3 if you get paranoid about Paracetamol content.
????: Drugs Forum http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9829
5. Remove filter CAREFULLY, ensuring no unfiltered content gets into Codeine water.
6. Repeat filtration, remembering to throw all 'infected' stuff away before proceeding.

3. OTHER
Well... How fuckign long was that?!
I'm sorry. Re-reading your post reminded me you only wanted to know about Para content. Oh well, hope it helps.

Above all BE CAREFUL!

[steve51184]

well mr bunny read that 60mg was a good place to start but he insisted on 100mg for his CWE and it's been 1hr since mr bunny drank his CWE liquid and he feels nothing.. maybe more was needed?

[yaba]

100mg isn't that much but for someone without a tolerance should have felt something. Maybe because bunny is new to the CWE he lost a bit more of dihydrocodeine then he thought ? Also its only been a hour maybe it takes a bit longer ? Swim when he takes it 30mg tablets (no paracetamol) it takes about an hour before the effects are taking place. He takes a lot more then 100mg but is used to it, don't do the same...

[steve51184]

well it's the next day and it didn't do anything to mr bunny so i really think 100mg wasn't enough for him.. what amount world you suggest as i think mr bunny has a VERY high tolerance due to old amphetamine, extacey and hash habbits

[porchy]

Originally Posted by steve51184

well it's the next day and it didn't do anything to mr bunny so i really think 100mg wasn't enough for him.. what amount world you suggest as i think mr bunny has a VERY high tolerance due to old amphetamine, extacey and hash habbits

No, SWIY WILL NOT have an opiate tolerance unless one has used opiates.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Well done- removed a swimmers confusion re tolerance

[ConcertaXL]

mr bunny does not use opiates though? marijuana, amphetamine and ecstasy contain no opioids so will NOT cause a tolerance to dihydrocodeine AT ALL. (unless someone has been cutting bunny's speed with heroin, which is nigh on impossible.)

dihydrocodeine will do less for you if you regularly use the following: codeine, morphine, methadone, heroin, poppy pods, opium, oxycodone etc. any drug not in this category will not produce cross-tolerance.

[yaba]

Swim bit worried to say how much he takes at times (even with no tolerance) but he was a heroine addict at 13 and is 30 now and not new to dihydrocodeine, methadone, heroine, etc.. Swim takes more but if he was a bunny he wouldn't try more then 200mg if 100mg didn't do anything. And that advice is pushing it !!!!

Also swim gets pure dihydrocodeine.. 30mg IR and no paracetamol so no CWE is needed

[steve51184]

ok thanks for clearing that up for mr bunny but if 100mg didn't do anything i don't want mr bunny to be going higher unless you guys think it's ok/safe

now my question is what's the best thing i can buy (none prescription) to get a good opiate high/experience from?

[yaba]

poppy pops.... lots on info here.

[steve51184]

Originally Posted by yaba

poppy pops.... lots on info here.

can't find any info on "poppy pops"

[yaba]

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=162 And look on a popular auctions site... If swiy is in the UK very, very easy....!!!!

[steve51184]

Originally Posted by yaba

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=162 And look on a popular auctions site... If swiy is in the UK very, very easy....!!!!

i think you mean "poppy tea" and not "poppy pops" anyway my bunny has tried poppy tea in the past and it didn't do anything :\

[yaba]

Yeah swim thinks same poppy pods or poppy tea is the same.. But poppy sead tea isn't as good..

Nothing seems to work for bunny...??

Not giving bad advice but IV heroine ? That would work in 5seconds...LOL

[steve51184]

first off bunny know no one who sells it and no bunny is more wanting OTC options

[yaba]

Paramol is the strongest OTC painkiller and nurofen+ 12.8mg codeine 200mg ibuprofen and some OTC cough medicine (think its called linctus, but not sure)

If poppy pod tea isn't doing anything then swim doubts that anything OTC will do something for bunny.

And not knowing anyone who sells heroine is a good thing, trust swim on that one...

[steve51184]

oh bunny does not want heroin he was just saying...

also about the CWE mr bunny did he thinks it was the filtering he did that messed it up as he used 3 pieces of kitchen roll and it might have stopped the good stuff from getting throw

[yaba]

Swim used old t shirt and coffee filters for his filtering needs, but that is a long time ago.

Also is OTC medicines are combined it could do something for someone with no tolerance. But be careful always know what swiy is putting in its body...! Specially paracetamol.

[nick23]

J.Collis Browns-20mg of morphine per bottle.