Experiences - IV heroin really intense itching

[Junkhead23]

Pacman had a hit the other day and got serious itchyness. He has got this many times but the itchyness lasted for about 45 seconds and was so much more intense than it ever had been.(it ent from the palms down his arms to his chest, then his feet started to itch with the same intensity) Actually he thought he might have put himself over he almost ran downstairs to say ring an ambulance but didn't fortunately.

What is the most intense itchyness SWIY have experienced?

[oxyandme]

swim often gets that same feeling.. lasting up to a minute or more (depending on dosage) if IV'd 100-200 mg of Morphine cooked and banged.. nice red face too.

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[mickey_bee]

Originally Posted by Junkhead23

Pacman had a hit the other day and got serious itchyness. He has got this many times but the itchyness lasted for about 45 seconds and was so much more intense than it ever had been.(it ent from the palms down his arms to his chest, then his feet started to itch with the same intensity) Actually he thought he might have put himself over he almost ran downstairs to say ring an ambulance but didn't fortunately.

What is the most intense itchyness SWIY have experienced?

Sounds like what swim has had recently.
With the gear that's been going around atm, if swim shoots a decent amount of it, then kind of at the same time as the rush, or just after, he gets this rush of kinda itchyness, but super intense, to the point where it's painful. for swim only lasted about 5 seconds on average tho. weird.

[msmogadon]

SWIM gets this. Hot pins and needles usually at the back of the neck, spine. groin, back of knees feet and hands. SWIM finds this a bit unnerving sometimes especially in the loo at work lol

[Wallet]

SWIM doesn't get it intensely right after shooting...she usually gets it later on. Last week she had it so bad she couldn't sleep. She was up all night scratching herself on her arms and legs. She had just clipped her nails too! SWIM thinks it had to do with doing too much H. She did more than usual that day.

[electrolingus]

Most true opiates release histamine in the bloodstream. This is what is responsible for the itching. In SWIMs part of the pond, Two types of heroin are available. The first is raw heroin and the second is called 'scramble'. Scramble heroin is cut with quinine to intensify the rush that is accompanied with injecting it. The scramble heroin usually has a tingling itch after injected but the itch rarely lasts long. The raw heroin however has an itch that usually lasts for the duration of the 'high'. SWIM has known the itch that is accompanied with opiate intoxication to be so drastic, that he has scratched himself to the point of breaking the skin. Chronic opiate itch can be reduced by taking diphenhydramine (Benadryl) or some other similar antihistamine.

The most intense 'pins and needles' type itch SWIM has ever experienced was from hydromorphone (Dilaudid). Said swimmer shot some Dilaudid when he had a major sunburn once and thought he was gonna pass out from the pain and itch.

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Great explanation about the histamine release

[BastardoFatsquardo]

Some of the gear that SWIM gets produces this effect, and is more pronounced with larger hits. SWIM said it is only in some varieties of gear, and is really really intense for about 15-25 seconds directly after, so SWIM shoots and then scratches SWIMs self rigorously right afterwards all over the body. SWIM must look like a maniac when this happens. This is not the same as the opiate itchyness that some may have during an opiate high as that is usually throughout the "high", while as this is right after SWIM injects. Are there any swimmers out there in the East US or elsewhere using white H4 gear that are having this same phenomena?? Or is it only down to H3 Swimmers????

[kailey_elise]

Originally Posted by BastardoFatsquardo

Some of the gear that SWIM gets produces this effect, and is more pronounced with larger hits. SWIM said it is only in some varieties of gear, and is really really intense for about 15-25 seconds directly after, so SWIM shoots and then scratches SWIMs self rigorously right afterwards all over the body. SWIM must look like a maniac when this happens. This is not the same as the opiate itchyness that some may have during an opiate high as that is usually throughout the "high", while as this is right after SWIM injects. Are there any swimmers out there in the East US or elsewhere using white H4 gear that are having this same phenomena?? Or is it only down to H3 Swimmers????

Yup, TIK have reported the same; it's assumed to be the histamine response. Why it's so intense with some types of gear, however, is a mystery to SIK. *shrug*


Also, although many people are describing it as "itching", it would almost be better to describe it as "burning" - it's not the semi-pleasant itch of a good nod, it's an intense, burning, perhaps "pins and needles" effect racing through your whole body. SIK slammed 2.5 bags of the stuff and appeared to have a rash/sunburn on the trunk for a good two hours - the flush lasted about an hour on the face and limbs.

I'm told it's not altogether unpleasant, but very intense. SIK said that the gear that usually has this effect seems pretty good, and so it's not minded and perversely looked forward too; perhaps that's why it doesn't seem unpleasant. It is, however, extremely intense, and as it goes to your head/brain there seems to be a minor panic that one's going to fall out. *shrug*

~Kailey

[BastardoFatsquardo]

So it does happen in East Coast US then?
SWIM thought it was down to all of the benzo and other cuts that gets into UK gear?

[kailey_elise]

Originally Posted by BastardoFatsquardo

So it does happen in East Coast US then?
SWIM thought it was down to all of the benzo and other cuts that gets into UK gear?

Yes, it's been reported on the east coast usa, with (presumably!) heroin no.4. So it's not just cuts in UK gear. Of course, it could still be a cut, and the same cut is used in both places...*shrug*

Oh, and benzodiazipines wouldn't have that effect, even administered IV.

~Kailey

[Spucky]

Sounds like the Producer of that Stuff make a mistake
when they cook the Base,
swim think to many different Alkaloids inside!
(imo. more alkaloids means more and higher allergic reaction)

[Benniboi]

Originally Posted by Spucky

Sounds like the Producer of that Stuff make a mistake
when they cook the Base,
swim think to many different Alkaloids inside!
(imo. more alkaloids means more and higher allergic reaction)

dude I don't think it's an allergic reaction.

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Please state your reasons why. This post does no good to state this without presenting any facts, sources, etc

[Spucky]

Originally Posted by Benniboi

dude I don't think it's an allergic reaction.

What else?
Swim guess there are not many other possibility`s!

[electrolingus]

Originally Posted by Spucky

What else?
Swim guess there are not many other possibility`s!

Several synthetic opiates will cause a brief, itchy 'pins and needles' type of reaction to the user. Cutting agents can also cause a itchy reaction and may cause some minor welting or blotchiness up the arm or other place of injection, but usually only lasts a few minutes.

Mistakes in the manufacturing process of synthetic opiates can result in more problems for the user than itchiness, such as Parkinson's disease or death.

[Spucky]

Originally Posted by electrolingus

Several synthetic opiates will cause a brief, itchy 'pins and needles' type of reaction to the user.
Cutting agents can also cause a itchy reaction and may cause some minor welting or blotchiness up the arm or other place of injection, but usually only lasts a few minutes.

But this are allergic reactions or is there are other Definition?
Because Swim and his Friend and Colleagues called always only "Allergic Reaction' by Histamine-Release!

[Junkhead23]

Spucky SWIY really don't have a clue do SWIY?

This happens a LOT with heroin no3. Too often that it can be a mistake in the process. As someone else pointed out when people get this intense itching it means it is good stuff.

If it is a mistake then it is a very good one!!!

[Spucky]

Originally Posted by Junkhead23

Spucky SWIY really don't have a clue do SWIY?

If it is a mistake then it is a very good one!!!

Some People like the real Opiatfeeling more than the real pure Heroin.
As Far as swim understand the synthesis from Opium
to Heroin he think that H.3 have many different Alkaloids inside
and H.4 less, it becomes more pure and less allergic.

Opium have of course a more widespread High
and Heroin makes more a Clean High!
It is like Indica and Sativa,
or blond or brunette Girls
or like Coffee with or without Milk!

But Swim is not real inside of Chemical Things,
he think more about social aspects!

Ah yes, People who produce Heroin try to make it compact, for easy`r smuggeling
H.3 Volume is higher than H.4.
But Swim already said something about the Heroin from Afghanistan,
he think the People there are not professional and have not the real Chemical Stuff,
this lead to bad purification!

[Junkhead23]

Originally Posted by Spucky

Some People like the real Opiatfeeling more than the real pure Heroin.
As Far as swim understand the synthesis from Opium
to Heroin he think that H.3 have many different Alkaloids inside
and H.4 less, it becomes more pure and less allergic.

Opium have of course a more widespread High
and Heroin makes more a Clean High!
It is like Indica and Sativa,
or blond or brunette Girls
or like Coffee with or without Milk!

But Swim is not real inside of Chemical Things,
he think more about social aspects!

Ah yes, People who produce Heroin try to make it compact, for easy`r smuggeling
H.3 Volume is higher than H.4.
But Swim already said something about the Heroin from Afghanistan,
he think the People there are not professional and have not the real Chemical Stuff,
this lead to bad purification!

It is true the heroin from afghanistan is not anywhere near as good as that from the golden triangle as they do not know how to purify it well enough. However a while ago there was a report stating that they were trying to make heroin no4 in AFghanistan

[SmokeNmirrors]

Swim lives on the east coast and usually the shit that makes him high as fuck and nodding out usually brings on a intense itch as well so swim doesn't think its a allergic reaction though. If Swim takes a anti histamine it should cause the itching to stop or become more mild.

[mickey_bee]

Originally Posted by SmokeNmirrors

Swim lives on the east coast and usually the shit that makes him high as fuck and nodding out usually brings on a intense itch as well so swim doesn't think its a allergic reaction though. If Swim takes a anti histamine it should cause the itching to stop or become more mild.

Is it an intense itch as part of the rush though, or is it just an intense itch which continues throughout the high?
i.e. does it last a few seconds, or a few hours?

[SmokeNmirrors]

Originally Posted by mickey_bee

Is it an intense itch as part of the rush though, or is it just an intense itch which continues throughout the high?
i.e. does it last a few seconds, or a few hours?

It lasts after the rush and maybe for the first hour or two but not for the entire high though but swim has scratched him self so much before the next day he has scratches on his chest,arms and sometimes his cheek almost like he got in a fight with a cat lol.

[LinusMundane]

If the antihistamine makes it go away it was an allergic reaction...

[tyranny4u]

maybe the dope was cut with crushed morphine pills?

[Junkhead23]

Nah this itchyness is really intense and only lasts after the shot

[mickey_bee]

Originally Posted by Junkhead23

Nah this itchyness is really intense and only lasts after the shot

Yeah, it's feckin' weird.
Bit of a shame too because swim sometimes finds he get's this rush of semi-painful itchyness, and well, that is the rush.

So different from the 'pure' feeling rush you get off quality gear.