One eye more dialated than the other.

[devil]

daeron, it makes you squint too.



SWIM remembers the first time SWIM's best friend noticed this eye
dilation thing in the mirror - he was soooooo freaked out. Separately,
SWIM's gf thought she looked like a cat. SWIM was cracking up at both
of them as SWIM was god at the time.

[Juu2]

i know im gonna sound like a total newbie but wtf is SWIM ???

[devil]

hey Juu2,



One of the board rule is that you aren't supposed to speak about your
personal experiences with drugs. SWIM stands for Someone Who Isn't Me.

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[Toria]

yeah, it stands for someone who isn't me but it's obvious everyone's talking about themselves cause they make mistakes like saying "me" in the next sentence...yeah, smooth...

[Juu2]

ahh thort it was somithing like that lol,SWIM says thanks

[daeron]

ok people heres a update of the topic.Ive talked to a one doc whos into mdma,and he said that it can be the sign of poor sight,blah,blah but it can also be a sign of some disorder/injury.To cut the story short here is an article about it so if you exp some of the symptoms well you know what to do:



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<H3>Eyes/pupils different size</H3></TD></TR></T></TABLE></TD></TR>
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<TD>Definition:</TD></TR>
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<TD =Text>One pupil (of the eye) is a different size from the other one.

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<TD>Alternative Names:</TD></TR>
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<TD =Text>Enlargement of one pupil; Pupils of different size; Anisocoria

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<TD>Considerations:</TD></TR>
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<TD =Text>Occasionally, differing pupil size is inherited and there is no underlying disorder. If other family members also have this condition, then pupil size is probably genetic and is nothing to worry about.

Occasionally, for unknown reasons, pupils may differ in size. If there are no other symptoms and if the pupils return to normal, then the transient condition is nothing to worry about.

Head injuries that cause differing pupil sizes are usually curable with early recognition of danger signs and medical treatment. Complications, however, can be life-threatening or cause permanent disability.

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<TD>Common Causes:</TD></TR>
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<LI>Bleeding inside the skull caused by head injury
<LI>Brain tumor or abscess
<LI>Infection of membranes around the brain caused by meningitis or encephalitis
<LI>Expanding brain lesion such as an aneurysm
<LI>Excess pressure in one eye caused by glaucoma
<LI>Birth injury, tumor in the chest, or lymph-node pressure that may be accompanied by decreased sweating on the side with a dilated pupil or drooping eyelid on the affected side
<LI>Eye-drops</LI>[/list]
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<TD =Text>Treatment depends on the cause of the enlargement of one pupil. For example:
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<LI>For pupil size inequality caused by a head injury, get immediate medical help.
<LI>For pupil size inequality caused by a tumor, follow prescribed therapy. Stay active as strength allows. Work and exercise moderately. Rest when tired.
<LI>For pupil size inequality caused by meningitis or encephalitis, follow prescribed therapy and rest in bed in a darkened room.
<LI>For pupil size inequality caused by acute glaucoma, avoid emotional upset, which raises pressure in the eye. Don't smoke. Tobacco constricts blood vessels, reducing the blood supply to the eye. Follow prescribed therapy that may include eye drops to lower pressure inside the eye, diuretics to decrease fluid pressure in the eye, or pain relievers. After treatment, resume normal activities, but avoid fatigue. A low-salt diet is recommended.</LI>[/list]
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<LI>Differing pupil size follows an eye or head injury -- get medical help immediately!
<LI>Differing pupil size is accompanied by headache, nausea or vomiting, blurred vision, or double vision.
<LI>Differing pupil size is accompanied by fever, headache that worsens when bending forward, stiff neck, or eyes sensitive to light -- get medical help immediately!
<LI>There is severe eye pain and loss of vision -- get medical help immediately!
<LI>Differing pupil size is persistent or unexplained.</LI>[/list]
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<TD =Text>The medical history will be obtained and a physical examination performed.

Medical history questions documenting differing pupil size in detail may include:
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<LI>Is this a new finding?
<LI>When did it start?
<LI>What other symptoms are also present?
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<LI>Is there a headache?
<LI>Is there nausea?
<LI>Is there vomiting?
<LI>Is there blurred vision?
<LI>Is there double vision?
<LI>Is there a fever?
<LI>Is there a stiff neck?
<LI>Are the eyes light sensitive (photophobia)?
<LI>Is there eye pain?
<LI>Is there loss of vision?</LI>[/list]</LI>[/list]The physical examination will include a neurological examination.

Diagnostic tests that may be performed include:
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<LI>Blood studies such as CBC and blood differential
<LI>Cerebrospinal fluid studies (lumbar puncture)
<LI>CT scan of the head
<LI>EEG
<LI>Head MRI scan
<LI>Tonometry (if glaucoma is suspected)
<LI>X-rays of the skull
<LI>X-rays of the neck</LI>[/list]Intervention:
Depending on the diagnosis, medications may be prescribed including cortisone (to diminish swelling of the brain tissue), anticonvulsant drugs (to control seizures), pain relievers, antibiotics (for bacterial meningitis), or anticancer drugs.

After seeing your health care provider, you may want to add a diagnosis related to enlargement of one pupil to your personal medical record.

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[TranceAddict]

"Occasionally, differing pupil size is inherited and there is no underlying disorder" </font>hmm maybe that explains my eyes...



I've always had good vision on all my vision tests, with both eyes
matching and is the reason which i higly doubt it dealt with vision
problems. however due to this thread i check my girlfriends eyes
closely and one of her pupils (without rolling) was more slightly more
dialated than the other. it was a very very small change, not noticable
unless if u were right on her face...i asked her if her left eye had
been worse and she said she always got that eye reported as the worse
one compared to the other...so I was right just by looking into her
eyes.

[TranceAddict]

Originally Posted by truestbet

This has only happened to me only once, but keep
in mind one eye being more dialated than the other*could* be a
sign of a serious neurological disorder. Just please be careful..
doesn't it seem that your eyes should react the same to light and
chemicals?

This is exactly why I posted this...i was worried if it *could* be a
sign of a neurological disorder, but nothing has ever happened due to
it. months have passed and i'm still good!

[truestbet]

I wasn't tryin to scare you before or anything, butbasically they say it could be a sign of stroke, uneven pressure in the brain, blah blah blah. But, it has happened to so manythat take x and psychadelics that I would say it is nothing to worry about unless you have the side effects that would tell you if it was more serious medical condition. Hope this helps.

[daeron]

yeah but you people are forgetting one thing,this uneven pupil dilatation occurs when we use mdma or other pea-s,so this is not our normal state.


if you had some of disorder the different pupil dilatation would last much longer than the trip itself,so i believe that were are pretty much safe.My guess it is caused by different eye pressure,maybe..

[Nature Boy]

I think one of my pupils is always slightly bigger than the other. It's difficult to tell because sober pupils are hard to measure but I don't think this whole thing is that much of a big deal. For all we know (because I don't think there's a doctor or an optician amongst us), different size pupils could be no different from different sized feet.