Drug info - Any varitions when doing CWE with T3's

[gametime]

Swim has found tonnes of info on CWE and he thanks all the posters for the advice as it has helped him a lot. However all the CWE posts hes read are about the tablets that only contain 8mg of codeine. SWIM, however doesnt use those, he uses T3's with 300mg acetemephine & 30 mg codeine. So he's just wondering if the exact same steps should be used for a CWE. The main thing he wonders about is the amount of water used. If he was going to CWE 15 T3's, would he still use just 50mls? SWIm has done about 5 CWEs lifetime with varying success, and used T3's everytime. Just wants to make sure hes doing it perfect this time

[Narcoticated]

450mg is a lot of codeine. Don't go overboard with that stuff.

As far as SWIY's concern goes, don't worry about it. Even if SWIY took 15 T3s without doing a CWE, it's not enough apap to cause much of any damage. So if SWIY thinks about it, even doing a half-assed CWE and only getting out half the apap would be sufficient. Being so precise with the amount of water is mostly a waste of time too. Just use as little as SWIY needs to dissolve the powder. Easy as that.

[honourableone]

A good question, but yes that should be fine. If you have done it 5 times you know what you are doing, and 50ml of water should be more than enough to get out all of the codeine (using more would just cause more paracetamol/acetaminpphen to dissolve).

I hope you aren't going to use all of that at once; 450mg is a very high dose. If your tolerance is so high that you need so much, then seriously take a break.

Originally Posted by Narcoticated

Even if SWIY took 15 T3s without doing a CWE, it's not enough apap to cause much of any damage.

You could have really worded that much better. 7.5g of paracetamol is a lot, and would definitely put serious strain on the liver, even if it wouldn't kill a healthy person (or even make them feel anything). If this was done a few times, done with alcohol, or done by someone who had damaged their liver in other ways then taking that much could easily have bad consequences. There is no excuse not to be as careful as possible or to do a "half-assed CWE". I realise that you were merely trying to stop the OP worrying unneccesarily, but you went about it in a way that could easily be misenterpreted.

[ConcertaXL]

honourableone, the OP's pills contain 4.5g of APAP- not 7.5g. You may be used to 500mg pills being from the UK but most US pills contain 300mg (including tylenol 3.) 15 x 300= 4500mg or 4.5g. This is only just above the safe daily dose of 4g and if half of it is CWE'd out it will produce a safe dose (for any person without severe liver damage or heavy alcohol consumption.)

[honourableone]

Originally Posted by ConcertaXL

honourableone, the OP's pills contain 4.5g of APAP- not 7.5g. You may be used to 500mg pills being from the UK but most US pills contain 300mg (including tylenol 3.) 15 x 300= 4500mg or 4.5g. This is only just above the safe daily dose of 4g and if half of it is CWE'd out it will produce a safe dose (for any person without severe liver damage or heavy alcohol consumption.)

Sorry, my bad. I should have payed closer attention to the original post. SWIM would love to get his hands on codeine pills with a ratio like that.

In that case I concur that there really isn't much need to worry at all, although there can always be unforeseen circumstances and there is no reason not to be as careful as you possible can. For an occasional user, it is unlikely that doses of APAP like that could cause a problem, but using medicinal doses over a long period of time can still cause significant damage, so anyone with a codeine addiction can't afford to have "half-assed" CWEs even with these T3s. In the case of the OP there doesn't seem to be such a problem, so again I apologise that I assumed all codeine/APAP tablets contained 500mg of APAP.

[RoboCodeine7610]

Careful with the dose.But the only difference would be the amount of water used, that's all.Since you'll be using less tablets, you'll need less water.

Other than that, it's the exact same procedure...