Opinions - Is there any nootropic value in piperazines?

[justme102571]

OK, SWIM recently attempted to acquire MDMA, and instead got ripped off with some pipes. So, SWIM was wondering... is there ANY potential value in pipes? Any possible nootropic value? On rare occassions, SWIM enjoys a small dose of Ritalin (5-10mgs) to provide a gentle push in terms of studying power. SWIM heard that pipes are similar to dextroamp... therefore, any chance a very small amount of BZP could assist someone who is trying to study all day? Has anyone ever tried this???

[ThuzzY]

Yea, it would seem that most piperazines, like BZP, wouldn't be too bad for work purposes, providing your fairly well compatible with them, as some people get those nasty side effects.

BZP is pretty stimulating and works like most amphetamines, the increased levels of dopamine and noradrenaline should allow for added concentration and motivation, just that you'd never want to use it regularly, as tolerance builds fast, and if used over consecutive days, seems to produce some awesomely bad side-effects/comedowns.

But, so on a one off or two, I reckon it would be fine, and I do know people who have successfully used it for this purpose.

[justme102571]

@Thuzzy... thanks for the reply. I didn't think anyone was ever going to answer that one.

That's some good info. Unlike years ago, SWIM is incredibly careful these days - that's exactly why he's never had more than 5mgs of Ritalin at once (times sure have changed). SWIM was thinking something along the lines of 5-10mgs of pipes... maybe during one day at work... about once every 2-3 weeks. You know, only on those days where you REALLY need that extra focus and energy, and the coffee just isn't working.

SWIM thinks he'll give it a try soon and document it.