Effects - Was It laced?

[Omalley]

a friend of SWIMs smoked some weed recently that had very abnormal effects on him, he was hallucinating things that weren't really there and was so confused to the point where he could not figure out how to turn out a lamp or change the channel on his tv and also he was hearing voices in his head telling him things to do, was this weed laced? It is understood that THC affects everyone differently but it is very unusual for it to make someone that retarded.

[cra$h]

feel detatched at all?

[everytingirie]

How experienced is swiy friend with cannabis? Swim has had friends with similar effects which have, in fact, turned them away from the drug entirely. He believes that some -newcomers especially- tend to have those crazy, intense experiences.

[RedBaron]

Did Swiy or any other friends smoke the same weed? What affects did it have on them? Some people just can't handle cannabis and the effects it could produce in the nervous system.

[ollywithbeans]

It is completely normal for anyone, especially one new to the experience, to find simple things very difficult whilst high. Often with hilarious results, however the voices in swiys head do seem worrying. A possible psycotic episode perhaps? Swim's advise is to leave cannabis alone, consider the experience a warning.

[Omalley]

Originally Posted by ollywithbeans

It is completely normal for anyone, especially one new to the experience, to find simple things very difficult whilst high. Often with hilarious results, however the voices in your head do seem worrying. A possible psycotic episode perhaps? Swim's advise is to leave cannabis alone, consider the experience a warning.

it wasnt me who this happened to it was one of SWIM's friends who called me and told me what was happening, he had smoked out of a pipe made from a cheap plastic pen, like actually just put weed into the plastic and smoked it, of which i told him repeatedly NOT TO DO(nobody ever listens) because it didn't sound safe for him. I don't know if maybe something in the pen that he smoked from caused this episode to happen, but am considering that a possibility, he was exhibiting behavior and tone of voice(kind of monotonous and unusual) which is very similiar to what I've seen in people who are having a bad DXM trip(not to imply that was what was in it because you cant smoke DXM) also yes he is new user to cannibis.

[EscapeDummy]

Originally Posted by Omalley

it wasnt me who this happened to it was one of SWIM's friends who called me and told me what was happening, he had smoked out of a pipe made from a cheap plastic pen, like actually just put weed into the plastic and smoked it, of which i told him repeatedly NOT TO DO(nobody ever listens) because it didn't sound safe for him. I don't know if maybe something in the pen that he smoked from caused this episode to happen, but am considering that a possibility, he was exhibiting behavior and tone of voice(kind of monotonous and unusual) which is very similiar to what I've seen in people who are having a bad DXM trip(not to imply that was what was in it because you cant smoke DXM) also yes he is new user to cannibis.

The way you compared your friend's reaction to someone on DXM makes it highly suggestive that your weed MAY have POSSIBLY been laced with PCP. That's the reason that Crash asked if swim's friend felt "detached" at all, as PCP (and DXM) are both dissociative drugs, and should give one a feeling of detachment/disssociation/fucked-up-ness. PCP can also cause hallucinations and delirium/confusion. PCP laced weed is pretty rare, but not entirely unheard of.

Nothing to be worried about for one use, but I'd definetly suggest swim's friend to take a hard line with his dealer on this one.

[informer_]

maybe it is cos swiys friend smoked a lod of plastic fumes lol, it cant be very good for you ?

[ryanc]

I agree with the guy about PCP. If SWIMS friend exhibited that kind of behavior, it is likely a dissassociative is the culprit. Smoking from a plastic pen shouldn't cause SWIY to trip out....then again dealers lacing weed is unlikely especially with PCP.

[beentheredonethatagain]

to be quite honest your friend could just be acting , and its all just to sound cool, or not.

But really if it were laced, how can a person who lives many many miles away , who wasnt there , be expected to know if it was laced and with what?

just wondering. peace

[Macee]

maybe SWIY should try a small hit, with a responsible sitter of course.

[Greenport]

How long did the hallucinatory experience last? What was it like/what were the symptoms? To Barney, based on the symptom set described, it seems that swiY probably just had really strong weed with a high THC/CBD ratio.

It's hard to say whether swiY had laced pot without some kind of definitive explanation of the symptoms and the like. THC itself has a slight hallucinogenic note to it and can cause a person to hallucinate, however it's generally rather mild and colorful and most of it seems to remain in the mind. Barney has smoked weed a few times that has been so strong that it has made him hallucinate. Definitely not laced stuff, just really +++ stuff.

It likely occurs this way because cannabis plants have been selectively breeded to yield versions with a high THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabidol) to CBD (cannabidol) ratio - and CBD seems to play a role in the regulation of THC's effects. Aka, high-THC strains seem to give a strong mind high with the potential for hallucinations, ya-know, that 'fuckt up' kind of high - whereas strains with a more average CBD content seem give that more stony sleepy 'don't wanna move' body high.

However that doesn't mean it wasn't laced. It could have been - although many hallucinogens would be broken down under the heat of a lighter so there's not too much that is reasonable to lace marijuana with - past PCP and 'maybe' a handful of psychedelic amphetamines or AMT. In any of those cases, the symptom set would be very different and the experience would likely have lasted much longer than a normal marijuana high...

[EscapeDummy]

OP's description of the extreme confusion, nature of the hallucinations, and delerium (hearing voices) strongly suggets that this was not just an intense reaction to powerful cannabis, it seems highly suggestive of some other drug, with dissociative effects.

And has Swiy really legitimately hallucinated on real dank weed? Because SWIM has never, ever hallucinated on weed. He's had changes in perception, but never hallucinations. He'd really like to though.

[swiyer]

Swiy thinks the guys an arse and talking shit. PCP dipped weed? Haha, not in this day. Maybe to personal friends etc, but hell thats like throwing fucking money away dipping weed in PCP and selling to regular customers. Not viable.

Did the guy get the weed from a dealer of friend or what? Ask swiy what the weed looked like.

[Grabnar]

in this area its actually common for some dealers to lace the weeds with methamphetamine. an experienced smoker will know the difference by taste only (swim says meth tastes nasty) fortunately there are enough sources for swim to avoid the heavily loaded stuff as swim doesnt favor stimulants often.

[beentheredonethatagain]

Originally Posted by Grabnar

in this area its actually common for some dealers to lace the weeds with methamphetamine. an experienced smoker will know the difference by taste only (swim says meth tastes nasty) fortunately there are enough sources for swim to avoid the heavily loaded stuff as swim doesnt favor stimulants often.

never heard of meth being added to pot, it doesnt make sense, the meth cant be smoked like that it has to be heated to vapor, and even so the price of meth is much higher than pot. so not sure why anyone would lace pot with meth, besides that would not give the effects the OP is describing.

[Greenport]

Yes, Barney has hallucinated from dank weed. He also hallucinates oftentimes when smoking resin scraped from a pipe - although he says it is different from other psychedelics...hard to explain really.

[swiyer]

Coz' its weed mannn

[Omalley]

SWIM recently smoked some of the weed with his friend and they experienced none of the same thing his friend was raving about, at which point he admitted that he was just making up a bullshit story, which I sort of expected because he is known for making shit up all the time, but it would have been interesting if he wasn't.

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[sandoz1943]

SWIM has smoked weed laced with PCP in the past and there was no mistaking it for just weed. The first time SWIM dumped out her friends cooler because as she told him his ice was warm and later riding her bike home she thought she was peddeling the bike so slow there was no way it was not falling over. The day seemed to last a million years. SWIM spent most of the day biting her tounge so she didnt say any of the crazy shit she was thinking out loud.

[beentheredonethatagain]

Originally Posted by beentheredonethatagain

to be quite honest your friend could just be acting , and its all just to sound cool, or not.

Originally Posted by Omalley

SWIM recently smoked some of the weed with his friend and they experienced none of the same thing his friend was raving about, at which point he admitted that he was just making up a bullshit story, which I sort of expected because he is known for making shit up all the time, but it would have been interesting if he wasn't.

not to say " I told ya so " , but I did call this correct. anytime.

the bad thing is that OP posted this even though he knew it was probably a fabrication.

Not very respectful to the rest of us ...

[Shampoo]

Nothing productive can come of this thread at this point. It has now been established that the Cannabis in question did not cause hallucinations, auditory delusions or dissociation, even in the original smoking party. Any conjecture previously made is thereby conjecture as to the cause of a fictional event; futile, no?

This thread will not be deleted, but left for all to see one more example of Cannabis induced psychosis or vivid hallucinations as a hoax or a lie.

On that note,

closed.