Side effects - Sitting out comedowns

[HorseBucket]

SWIM is quite a hardcore fellow. He never takes any drugs to ease his comedown he just sits them out but its not easy because they last 5 hours straight. Is this normal? Are Ritalin comedowns supposed to be insanely intense and last 5 hours straight? How do comedowns hit everyone else here?

Anyone else feel great once the comedown finally wears off?

[Narcoticated]

A million factors will go into how good/bad the comedown will be. How much was taken, for how long, what method used, what was eaten/drunk (if anything), any other drugs taken, physical activity (or lack thereof), how much sleep was gotten/lost, mood, physical condition, mental condition, etc, etc, etc.

Ritalin comedowns can be hell. If they are hell, it means SWIY is overdoing it. Listen to SWIY's body and be smart about amphetamine use. Or at least get some benzos to help deal with those horrible comedowns.

[herostyle]

The comedowns for SWIM aren't too bad and SWIM uses dexmethylphenidate roughly 5 times a week 15-45 mg per dose. SWIM tries to keep himself nourished the best he can and makes sure he is busy while on the substance. However, sure every now and then, SWIM gets some pretty bad comedowns.

[ganjahero420]

swim has done dexmethylphenidate. methylphenidate and other stimulants. swim can honestly say the methylphenidate (not NEARLY so much dexmethylphenidate) has an truly horrid comedown. to swim it is worse than cocaine. The intenstity of the comedown wildly fluctuates from person to person so while some may not find it bad and can be unbearable for others. for example many people will be surprised swim thinks methylphenidates comedown is more unpleasent than cocaine. but it is all a matter of your own body. but yes swim does get a similair comedown to the one you are describing.

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[herostyle]

Originally Posted by ganjahero420

swim has done dexmethylphenidate. methylphenidate and other stimulants. swim can honestly say the methylphenidate (not NEARLY so much dexmethylphenidate) has an truly horrid comedown. to swim it is worse than cocaine. The intenstity of the comedown wildly fluctuates from person to person so while some may not find it bad and can be unbearable for others. for example many people will be surprised swim thinks methylphenidates comedown is more unpleasent than cocaine. but it is all a matter of your own body. but yes swim does get a similair comedown to the one you are describing.

SWIM didn't know that dexmethylphenidate had an easier comedown. Well SWIM learns something new everyday. Thanks!

[kaczynski]

Practicing transcendental meditation can help relieve any stress, even horrible comedowns.

[Adrianf]

SWIM tried methylphenidate (Rubifen) the first time last week, only a pill with 20 mgs, and the comedown was very very unpleasant. SWIM thought, is it worth? SWIM means, the comedown is worse than the good effects.
SWIM have a lot of pills, any advice about how to enjoy methylphenidate better??
Thanks

[nocoleah]

As I noted in another post, SWIM swears to Kava as the very best comedown medicine. It is legal and recreational but you have to mix up the raw kava root and be able to handle the taste. Like Ritalin, kava affects the dopamine but leads to sleepiness over time. The net result is a graceful transition to another, similar plane of enhanced consciousness. Is SWIM the only person who has done this?

[Str8]

My friend Meg says that the comedown definitely sucks and can indeed last well into the next day after heavy use the night before. This can be cured by taking more which is a bad thing. She finds that brand name Ritalin works 10x better than generic and the comedown is a lot cleaner. In fact she would never take generic again that's how much of a difference there is for her.

But definitely very low mood, extremely irritable, want to be by herself type of day and ambien and or benzos do help her get to sleep the night before.

[bugatti99]

SWIM feels so lucky to not get any comedown what-so-ever from stimulants. Cocaine, ritalin, meth, amphetamine and even coffee. None give him a comedown. He still gets the normal side effects such as sweating, erection issues and cravings but no comedown. Although he has used alprazolam on a few occassions to help him fall alseep when the stim was still kickin too much to lay and rest easy.

[herostyle]

Originally Posted by bugatti99

SWIM feels so lucky to not get any comedown what-so-ever from stimulants. Cocaine, ritalin, meth, amphetamine and even coffee. None give him a comedown. He still gets the normal side effects such as sweating, erection issues and cravings but no comedown. Although he has used alprazolam on a few occassions to help him fall alseep when the stim was still kickin too much to lay and rest easy.

Thats great that SWIY gets no comedowns. SWIM often uses alprazolam and cannabis to ease comedowns.

[Laudaphun]

SWIM's marmoset often reports that when a dosage of methylphenidate is wearing off, it just causes an hour or so of extreme tiredness. It makes it easy for her to fall asleep but, then whether redosed or not everything is back to premedicated state for the most part. Of course, years ago when once or twice used in a recreational manner, it was the most horrid come down she has ever reported. She really disliked the drug. But, after receiving a prescription for it, and taking it in the proper manner little ill effects were reported, much to the marmosets amazement. But, it seems to have a limit of some sort. The marmoset seems to be able to take only so much and at that point she reports a general, overall feeling of dysphoria or little added benefit. After 40mg/day regardless of tolerance it seems to just have the same effect on her. 60mg max, but even that is counter-productive. Amphetamines on the other hand seem totally different, as effect can continue to increase along with tolerance well past the recomended dosages. The marmoset's body reacts very strangely to these drugs. amphetamine seems to provide a more relaxxed, yet subtle alert-enhancing effect and at the same time can be taken and then go to sleep for 8 hours. Methylphenidate on the other hand has less of a relaxxing effect and has more of a stimulant effect, described as more or less, caffeine without the edginess.

Many people do seem to claim they experience less side-effects with the d-isomer of either mph or amp. But, SWIM's marmoset found that over time with regular therapeutic use, there seemed to be no come down, with the exceptional brief period of excessive drowsiness in between doses or after the final dose of the day. From early experimental exposure and experiences, methylphenidate is certainly able to cause a real nasty come-down. SWIM took it one night as a teenager (several actually) and repeated the experience once more and then never touched it again. Little experience with stimulant comedowns though as SWIM can only compare that with a few cocaine crashes that were nasty as well, but not quite so... "sickly-feeling" if she recalls. It seems to effect many people different ways. SWIM was just reading some literature on the genetics involved in AMP which determine the effects in the user, but is unsure at this time if they also apply to methylphenidate. Can't remember off the top of my head.

[100mg Methylphenidate]

Swim always has intense, long, ups to his highs. So his comedowns pretty much last a day or two, which is about as long as it usually takes him to get adequate sleep. Those two days, he cannot function or be in public. He goes into hibernation.

[Longshot]

Strange as it seems, I think I have no comedowns whatsoever...
What do you really mean by comedowns?
I mean, I quit ritalin temporarily all the time when I dont need it... just tend to get agitated, no depression or anything...
Just rever to adhd state.

[doingdadope]

Originally Posted by Longshot

Strange as it seems, I think I have no comedowns whatsoever...
What do you really mean by comedowns?
I mean, I quit ritalin temporarily all the time when I dont need it... just tend to get agitated, no depression or anything...
Just rever to adhd state.

Comedowns are usually only apparent when used in recreational doses, but for swim even prescribed low doses cause an extreme low. too the op if swiy isn't going to use any drugs to ease the comedown eating will help but if swiy is like swim this is almost impossible so swim makes a protein/fruit shake as it is much easier to drink something than eat.

[BoxStar]

The comedown is very individually-tailored just like the effects of the particular substance that induces it, some people may not have comedowns and others have horrible ones and everything between the extremes is possible.

The dosage is the most important factor; orally ingesting a therapeutic dose of methylphenidate during the course of a day it’s very different from snorting rail after rail of crushed pills all night long or longer; for SWIM oral doses of methylphenidate up to around 60mg at once produce little comedown, SWIM feels the effect wearing off and feels a bit exhausted and less vigilant but overall its nothing hard to deal with and fades away in a couple of hours but the longer SWIM prolongs the high with repeated doses the worse it gets, eventually after being over 48 hours awake and SWIM ran out of pills the comedown was a 72 hours long tour of hell that seemed to last an eternity and the pills were taken orally not snorted, injecting is also a whole different game.

SWIM once when he was in the deepest point in his freefall into nothingness dissolved 600mg of Ritalin pills in water, tried to filter the solution the best he could and then proceeded to slam methylphenidate for the next 15 hours non-stop until he ran out of solution and the subsequent crash was more intense than shooting meth/speed and quite close to the worst crash of all; the one from slamming cocaine but the “high” was not comparable.

Ritalin is a nice stimulant for many things but doing too much can make SWIY feel like a in a coke or meth crash without the high and for SWIM is just not worth it, if he is going to crash and feel like absolute shit for 3-5 days the high better be really good.

NOTE: Never inject pills is just plain irrational, very dangerous and can cause permanent damage; injecting 600mg in a short-time without tolerance can be fatal, don’t do it.

[devilsdandruff_ftw]

5 hours long? I've never heard that before. SWIM has crashes or comedowns and they often vary and depends on their mood or whatever, but never once has SWIM'S comedown been 5 hours long. Normally it's about an hour max.