Drug info - 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-bromocathinone (BK-DOB)

[psychedelaholic]

SWIM is soon to get a sample of a beta ketone version of DOB to test. As far as he knows it has yet to be tested for activity by anyone. It may be completely inactive although SWIM is positive it will be and will likely be very potent. SWIM reckons it will most likely be less potent than DOB based on the fact that methylone is around 1/2 the potency of MDMA. SWIM plans to start with a dose of 2mg which would be a strong DOB dose.

SWIM has never tried DOB but has a bit of experience with DOI. He has also done 2C-B many times and Bromo-Dragonfly once. So it will be interesting to see if the effects are akin to any of those.

So what are peoples' views on this? Has anyone heard of it being tested? Or heard anything about other cathinone versions of psychedelic phenethylamine or amphetamines?

SWIM is extremely excited to be given the opportunity to test this new material and will report back in full. At this time SWIM is unsure as to when he will have it in his possession though.

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Interesting, thanks for bringing this to attention. Keep the forum updated.
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[ganjahero420]

wow this is very cool that swiy will get that oppurtunity. please reort back how it works for him.

[De Stijl]

It seems very likely a significant metabolite of this compound would be 1-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-2-aminopropan-1-ol which is quite a mouthful, so lets call it bromomethoxamine. Bromomethoxamine is a structural blend if you like of the drug methoxamine and DOB. Methoxamine is a potent vasopressor (or vasoconstrictor) drug and it's anyones guess how that 4-bromo might affect that.

DOB is a potent vasoconstrictor in itself which is very evident in high dose and overdose cases, and some users seem particularly sensitive to those effects.

Looking at it from a slightly different angle, the presence of a beta-hyroxyl group on phenethylamines seems to bring less pleasant effects into the whole experience, compare ephedrine and ppa with their amphetamine counterparts for example.

So considering all those factors, I have a gut feeling that this compound may display a far too high body load well before any interesting psychedelic effects would be seen. That said I probably wouldn't start tasting at 2mg either in case I were unusually sensitive or completely wrong.

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	fantastic advice
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	Good observations

[psychedelaholic]

Hmm well SWIM will probably start lower than 2mg just to be careful. He is getting 1 or 2grams to experiment with so has plenty of material to find the right dose. He has taken 1mg of Bromodragonfly before which is also a strong vasioconstrictor and a very high dose. He reported that there was an intense body high but was be no means too much.

[psychedelaholic]

Anyone got anymore views on this possible new psychedelic?

[killersnowman]

whats the eta on the tasting?

[enquirewithin]

Interesting thread. DOB is a pleasant enough compound if taken in low doses, although too long lasting for SWIM's liking. Are there any bk-phenethylamines known (are they even stable)? Just speculation, but bk-DOB might be much less psychedelic with a shorter duration than DOB, simply comparing MDMA and 'methylone' and the other more common bk's with their amphetamine counterparts.

[snapper]

SWIM would consider starting with 0.5 mg or less. SWIM suspects this will be less active thn DOB, but agrees the body load my be significant, and who wants to deal with that for 36 hours. DOB can be very unpleasnt on its own.
SWIM looks forward to report....

[enquirewithin]

A lot of people say that DOx's in high doses are not pleasant (Owsley's STP fiasco supports shows that). Who knows what the duration of this compound could be? If the right dose was found, it could be very enjoyable. It will be intersting to hear more.

[psychedelaholic]

SWIM has taken 4.5mg of DOI before and didn't find it that strong (he didn't find 2CI that strong either though) duration made it a bit boring though. He's tried 2C-B but never DOB. Hopefully bk-DOB might be shorter in duration but as long as it's a good psychedelic long duration won't matter too much. Still no further news last SWIM heard it was in the process of synthesising.

[psychedelaholic]

Unfortunately progress has been halted indefinetly SWIM will keep everyone posted though.