Comedown - Beating the Crash

[branderson925]

Any advice on what to do to make the comedown easier. SWIM took 60mg (3x20mg amphetamine salts) at 2:30pm and is awaiting the terrible crash

Thanks

[Laszlo1]

Lie down. Even if swiy rests their head for only 40 minutes with their eyes shut, it will do a world of good for swiy. Drink water, lots of it, or juice, as swiy pleases. Prepare a meal, swiy is going to have to eat, whether swiy feels hungry or not, it's just a smart move. After eating, vitamins. Swim has trouble finding a good song to listen to while he's crashing, they all seem wrong to him, but if swiy can find one, do so, just relax, a lot of the crash is psychological. If swiy is so inclined, benzos will help. Cannabis will help some (not swim, personally), and swim sometimes has a little bit of a drink to calm his spun out nerves (not a good idea, alcohol is dehydrating, so swiy must take that into account).

Good luck, crashing is never fun but swim hopes it works out for swiy.

[Rise against]

When swim crashes, he usually eats a big meal and then sleeps until he feels better. Swim has noticed that a very small dose, like 10mg, helps a little too.

[good girl]

vit -c helps metabolize the drug faster to get it out........... also benzo's!!!

[WalkingMonstrosity]

Pretty much the same stuff as everybody else has said. Drink lots of water, force down a little food, rest, benzos etc.

Also dunno if you smoke or not, but smoking seems to make swim feel a lot better during the crash.

[fizzle]

A few methods that SWIM uses for this type of thing:

Smoke some cannabis
Take some benzodiazepines
Take some Benadryl (diphenhydramine)
Eat some substantial foods (not little snacks)
Drink plenty of juices/water
Play some relaxing music

[herostyle]

Originally Posted by WalkingMonstrosity

Also dunno if you smoke or not, but smoking seems to make swim feel a lot better during the crash.

Yeah, cannabis is really good to smoke before swiy is going to try to sleep. Always helps my friend out.

[hyperbolical]

Originally Posted by herostyle

Yeah, cannabis is really good to smoke before swiy is going to try to sleep. Always helps my friend out.

Always helps swim aswell. There is just one side effect thogh, swim hallucanates (sp?). For example if swim takes some amphetamine at about 8PM then has a smoke from any were between at about 7am till swim sleeps swim gets thease weird hallucinations like for example clouds turning pink or green, intracate etch-a-scetch style patterns drawing themselfs on the walls and ceillings and smoke type of effects coming off of things. It aint no problem to swim cause theres no paranoia with this. Actully swim quite enjoys it!

[Donmeka]

from 60mg SWIM shouldn't be in too much hell, SWIM 2 days ago woke up at 4am and took 2x30mg and took another 30mg at around 10:30am-11:30am sso 90mg total for the day and he ways doing greeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaat!!! nd did not have much w/ds at all, nothing worth bitching about. he smoked a tiny peice of black at night and took 1mg alprazolam and was fine.


Now SWIM is using his remaining xanax and adderall to get completely off H in time for his b day on sunday or to just get through the first couple stages of the WDs which r the worst parts. SWIM think tomorrow being tuesday if he takes whatever mg of adderall during the day to work and stop WDs and only take xanax at night for sleep he will be fine if not close to it by sunday.

SWIM has just been using H for about a year now and does not want his use to go on into his days as a 21yo. plus this summer holds some very important events for SWIM 1 being he must prove he is ready and responsible to restart his attendance to the community college out here where he lives.

SWIM desperately wants to go back to school and is getting a laptop for his Bday specifically for use in school and MAYBE if he can find one cheap enough to also run his only PC game Lineage 2. IF his laptop can run Lineage 2 he will be the happiest camper well not as happy as SWIMs father who will be happy SWIM wont be hogging his OPC for hours on end lol.

[WalkingMonstrosity]

There is no way to beat the crash! It is evil!! eeeeeviiiiiilll!!!


Seriously.

[gmeziscool2354]

i mean, i guess its too late for SWIY to beat the crash, but swim has found if he doses correctly he can avoid any crashes. the crash is certainly not 'unavoidable' as some people say.

and swim wanted to clarify, he still indulges in somewhat heavy ampetamine use with minimal to no crashing.

[Laszlo1]

gmeziscool2354 - Swim agrees somewhat. The crash isn't necessarily inevitable, but swim thinks its a person to person issue. For some people the crash is truly an inherent part of the experience, and for others it isn't.

Swim has recently remembered that snorting the adderall makes the crash CONSIDERABLY worse (swim spent many hours in a depressed, crash-induced stupor cursing his feeble memory this weekend). Also, the more one re-ups, the worse the crash becomes, when it finally catches up to you.

[VSOP~on~tap]

if you REALLY arent wise enough in the ways of the world to realize that you can not go up without coming back down (especialy when it comes to hard drugs like amphetamine)
if you want to get high and not suffer ANY negative consequences I can only reccomend sticking with the tried and true Cannabis, psy mushrooms.....and thats about it except the rare occasional treats like amanitas or cacti or LSD or whatever you know but for the most part pot and mushrooms get my alligator more fucked up than ANY drugs in existene....so fuck drugs. stick to eating whole natural medicine. seriously the most intense plus 4 expereinces he has ever had have ONLY come from cannabis and mushrooms: too magical plants that dont hurt anyone, show us amazing thigns, and many people including myself believe in their power to heal or at least to help people to realize they can heal themselves if they look inside......

or maybe im just crazy
peace

VSOP~on~tap added 45 Minutes and 9 Seconds later...

sorry in advance for the double post ill make sure not too do it again but I have to say this cause i wont get on here for a couple days;
my point in the above post was that the crash IS half the experience when it comes to drugs or at least when people are abusing drugs/and themselves. If you honestly think you are a tweaker, and you DONT have a bottle of heavt duty sedatives around the house (a benzo, or barbie, or ambien, or soma) then you are NOT a real tweaker LMAO.
Everyone knows that the more speed you take the harder you will crash. the ONLY speed that I have notices that my alligator DOESNT get the gnarly crash off of (and this may sound unbelieveable I am not sure but its true)
is Methamphetamine. its smoothe the hole ride. smooth up, smooth long high, and if you only do it once in a blue moon and get like a gram in you you will be TOTALY set for three days straight (so my alligator tells me. he claims its much more psychedelic and hardcore than taking LSD which he feels is candy (really fun candy but candy never the less. he says that when you eat or inject or drink a large amount of dope (shards) is on the level with mushrooms, just totaly different, but still you fry in the same way. he says that once you have eaten some dope if your not a needle person, or once youve banged a nice fat sack, youll never get high off puddles or even lines again they will just tease you.

anyways oddly enough he doesnt really crash off meth--he just stays FRIED wide awake for three days (after taking over a gram to the blood system) and then it so intense he doesnt do it again for years.

but yes, oddly enough EVERY other stim in existence CRASHES HIM HARD!!!!!! ritilan he has found is the very worst crash of all.......followed by a full night of smoking an ounce of crack probably, and then like propylhexedrine and then adderall and caffeine even makes me feel TERRIBLE. but I KNOW before hand, going in, I Know that if I touch a stimulant, I WILL most very likely 99.98 percent I will experience mild to moderate/sometimes extreme discomfort. again the one exception is dope which just feels like it cures everything. no anxieties on that stuff. oh also E. on E its impossible to have anxiety same with lsd ok anyways thats just my gadors input ~

~GET READY TO CRASH~it becoems inevitable. basicaly all you can do is make sure to eat some food, and drink fluids and take vitamins and mag and vitamin benzodiazepine and get through it.
its like when you first get into heroin and the itch is so powerful its overwhelming and uncomfortable and you scratch holes in yourself. but that is just part of the high, intense histamine release.
and THEN-after a while of taking opium, you start to realize Going in EVERY time, you know inside that as soon as the shit wears off (couple fuckign useless hours) your going to feel like a fucking 100 times worse cause not only will you be not high you will be wding and most likely in bad pain if you were taking opiums in the first place. it goes with the teritory. junkies get dopedick when they are young and new to the game. that leaves them soon and they aer constantly running from dopeSick, instead of dopedick which has miracously dissapeared

if you drink every day of your life you KNOW that you will start to get shaky and hallucenate if you dont feed your brain the drugs it needs.

hell even if you drink coffee every day, or even just once a day in the mornign/afternoon etc etc (ie same time of day every day) and if you just STOP doing that all the sudden - its likely that you will have intense headaches. at least I would. its called caffeine wd. you also feel a little tired and run down till you get more of the fine in yuo
my point all just being that dont do drugs if you cant handel crashing and feeling like shit for a few hours cause I got news for you: DRUGS (not like pot or tobacco or social Light drinking) but pretty must most every other chemical if you have been dumping it into your body with absolutly NO-ZERO-ZIP-- regard towards how it would effect you as a person---trust me the shit ALTERS how your brain works and with most every drug (Opium, Alcohol, Especialy wierd chems like anti-depressants/psychotics, benzodizepines hardcore, etc etc) basicaly every drug thre is except natural chemiicals like thc nicotine and psylocybin--WILL FUCK YOUR BRAIN UP SOOOO BAD that it will take about 2 months to taper down, then you will wd straight up deathly style for 1-3 month, then it takes and ENTIRE YEAR before your brain chemistry goes ANYWHERE near back to normal.

So yeah, do what you can do to prevent the crash from an otherwise fun drug induced high, but make certain that you realize going in that its going to hurt to comedown and youll likely either crave more or crave downers/alcohol/heavy sleep. again as I said the ONLY highs that I know of personaly that have no negative effects or comedown, are cannabis (especialy indica if you have a problem with anxiety from psychs), and mushrooms, tobacco, salvia, LSD, and....I guess OCCASIONAL benzodaizepine use, or alternatly Lifelong daily use so long as you have a steady source from a doctor. I mean benzos really dont hurt you, but they just turn you into an emotionless zombie. (which is good and euphoric if your the type of person who gets overly emtional and totaly flips out) I think benzos can be responsibly used by anyone either as needed or dailey low doses and they dont really hurt you. other hand, they have one of the worst of all wds so PLEASE do not disrespect these medicines they are powerful. if you really expect to shoot speedballs every day and live to be 100 with no pain or messed up organs--YOUR FLAT OUT NUTS/BRAINDEAD. wake up, drugs realy are bad for you IF you abuse them. that is the truth. its just that they always left off and never told us the "If you abuse them" part growing up or in school. we were just told they were inherintly evil as inantimate objects. honestly abusing a drug is poisoing yourself anyone ought to know that.

if you really want to use amphetamine RESPONSIBLY and NOT have crashes, the only other tips I can give you are common sense but still here we go: It is ACTUALY safer to take a drug including meth/all amphetamines EVERY day than it is to be that person that just binges on it on a rare weekend. THAT person will have no tolerance/not be used to it and could easily die or hurt themselves. If you use the stuff daily however in therapeutic doses for a good reason, than your not likely to suffer negatives from the drug because your body has adapted to the presense of the drug-ie its not such a shock to the system.
ok so if you dont want to medicate with small doses daily, if you want it a rare treat....when you DO end up taking take NO MORE than what is absolutely nessesary-take jsut enough to get the perfect high, and smoke some weed/cigs/drink coffee do whatever it is you like to do. but dont go taking mega doses every weekend. try to keep tolerance low and have a great time off a couple. unfortunatly my monkey has a permanent 90 mg tolerance to amph salts......anyways try to keep it 20 mg and under Id say unless you have a tolerance. if you do end up taking it every day make sure to take vitamins and especialy mag citrate and if you either stay content with the low prescribed dose, or take a slgihtly higher dose on RARE occasions, you CAN USE ANY drug your ENTIRE life without abusing and and withotu sufferign ANY negative consequences. people do it with all classes of drugs. it just depends on if you are willing to control yourself/the drug, or if your goign to bend over and let it take control of you because if thats the case then its time to stop doing drugs becasue they will kill you. again, just smoke pot if your the addictive type. at least its good for you and easy/to free to grow
excersize Every day. eat HEALTHY whole foods every day. make sure to get sunshine, and make sure to do somethign each day that you consider fun. also do soethign each day you consider challening. trust me these are the types ofthigns that make you grow and make the crash off drugs less intense because honestly even with opiates ive decided at least 50 percent of the wd is mental (is its assumed yuoll feel like shit so you do)
peace

[Dreamland]

SWIM finds that opiates are the perfect releiver for the terrible adderall crash. With persistant usage, SWIM has def. noticed that the good effects are more blunted while the crash and cravings are much greater.. SWIM feels great while it's active.. but once SWIM crashes, SWIM feels like the scum of the Earth... STill, SWIM recommend the following..

SWIY's choice of a sedative - benzos, weed, or opiates(prolly best option)
SWIY should eat a nice meal.
IF SWIY is feeling that depressed/gloomy feeling, SWIY should lay down and watch perhaps a funny movie to cheer up.. But NOT that depressing shit, where it's drama and people are dying.. SWIM finds any depressing movies or songs, MAKE IT WORSE!!!
SWIM would also recommend some nice chamomile tea.. put a few bags in a cup, warm it up, sip on it.. It may relax SWIY..

Good luck, and remember.. whatever goes up, MUST comedown.. But no fear, cuz once the crash is done, SWIY will bounce back up to a more normal mental state..

no fears, SWIM has to go thru this too.. but SWIWE are in it together..

Hope this helps!