Dose - Cocaine: You know you’ve overdone it when...

[zachzchw]

A buddy of mine bought a bag today, I did one line, its damn good. Hes blown through about 65% of it since like 1:30 pm(its now 11:15pm). He does like 3-6 little lines every hour or so, with lots and lots of numbies. Now he wants to smoke a blunt (not a primo, just regular. Should he be alright? Thanks for any help, guys. Just looking out for my buddy.

[Chaote]

He'll be right messed but you can't OD on grass so its not like hes getting closer to the OD point by smoking, I'm assuming thats what you meant

[sands of time]

He'll be fine, goin throw snow a day is a bitch. He doesn't blow that every day does he? Edited by: BA

[VIKETIME]

only thing to consider is his heart rate, but if hes healthy it shouldnt be a problem. Edited by: VIKETIME

[PureGlass]

Not only is weed after a long coke day not really more/less "bad for you,"
but it's also a step I've come to find essential in the coke process.

After all the coke is gone, and you're sitting, alone, in dead silence,
wishing you had more, weed can come and whisk you onto the clouds
from the worst of come downs. You should join him with his blunt and
relax....

[club222]

Originally Posted by PureGlass

Not only is weed after a long coke day not really more/less "bad for you,"

but it's also a step I've come to find essential in the coke process.



After all the coke is gone, and you're sitting, alone, in dead silence,

wishing you had more, weed can come and whisk you onto the clouds

from the worst of come downs. You should join him with his blunt and

relax....

This is very true. I always make sure I have some weed to smoke after
all the coke is gone. It really does help with the comedown a lot.

[joemomma]

he'll be fine when I do coke I dont even want to smoke until Im out of
blow then I smoke it helps the come down a bit. Oh ya I wish I lived
where you do a aroung here would last about 2 sniffs
Edited by: BA

[dmax]

Sure, weed is alright for that.* I still like a good dose of G
better for relaxing me.* is alright if you do it once a
month/week/whatever.* In fact, I think I like to do a big binge
day and then time off rather than low level continuous use, so maybe
that's what he's up to.* Edited by: BA

[Nicaine]

Serious topic (OK, some humour)...

* Bad headache
* The thought of walking any further than to the bathroom seems insurmountable
* Heart palpitations
* The thought of another line really sucks (has actually happened to SWIM before).
* The thought of coming down sounds like sweet relief (has also happened to SWIM before)
* Coming down itself is very sweet relief!! (also experience by SWIM... now you know he's a madman)
* You're carrying a cordless phone around in case you get the urge to dial 911 and ask for an ambulance
* You fall asleep in the middle of doing a line
* You run out of tobacco and actually won't go to the store to get a pack, deciding just to skip it for today!
* Five minutes after a line, you get the munchies

Any other contributions?Edited by: Nicaine

[motorhead]

you run into someone you havent seen in a while and they think u have cancer lol

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by motorhead

you run into someone you havent seen in a while and they think u have cancer lol

Hahahah...

[luckyatl13]

When having auditory and visual hallucinations to a great extent. lol swim knows when he gets there hes done a bit.

[Ikku]

SWIM has done maybe 1-1.5 grams over the past 12 hours or so. He wants to do some more but isn't sure if he's pushing it. He still feels the after effects of the last blow he did (about an hour and a half ago), which is an unusually long time for him to feel it. He's never done more than a gram in a day before, and isn't sure of his limits. Would it be safe for him to continue? Will he notice something is wrong before it becomes a problem, ie would he start to feel sore or chest pains to let him know its time to stop?

[trptamene]

I really don't have an answer for this but considering cocaine has anesthetic properties I am curious if would one be able to recognize the signs of toxicity, particularly if they present as some type of tactile sensation.

If one is asking if they should stop maybe one has already answered their own question by posing it and should consider maybe taking a break for a little while and in particularly doing some nose maintainance... see here:

Health - The Combined Cocaine Related Nose Problems and Nose Care Mega Thread

This also saves some for another day/time.

[Ikku]

Thanks, I think SWIM was just a little paranoid because he was so wired earlier. He wasn't high he was just still feeling the restlessness/paranoia. He's taking a little time at the moment to unblock his nose and relax, probably going to take the white lady dancing again in a bit.

SWIM is wondering if binges are more dangerous than habitual use. He's thinking that doing an 8ball in one day would be preferable to doing half a gram each and every day, but has nothing to back that up. Is saving some for tomorrow even an option??

[frenchywife]

Originally Posted by Ikku

SWIM is wondering if binges are more dangerous than habitual use. He's thinking that doing an 8ball in one day would be preferable to doing half a gram each and every day, but has nothing to back that up. Is saving some for tomorrow even an option??

Thank you SWIY for your inquiry. SWIM's asked this question many times for SWIM's much older sister did just that: used habitually - every single day - in small amounts, yet every day. Whereas, SWIM's experience has been mainly the opposite - binges and partying. SWIM used to believe that what SWIY says is true: that doing a half a gram each day would be better than doing an 8 ball in one day - however, even though SWIM's sister was a habitual user, she had more control. Perhaps SWIM's sister is unique because even though SWIM doesn't use habitually, she still uses, whereas sister doesn't and to be honest, SWIM really doesn't understand the whys and hows for it doesn't really make sense. SWIM just wishes she was more like her sister when it comes to drugs - except alcohol (sister is a hardcore alcoholic) - but that's a whole other story.

[trptamene]

Binges are definately more dangerous in terms of overdose potential, but habitual use can cause nearly-irreversible effects in terms of cognitive function and other brain activities. There is also the potential for addiction and all the nasty things that can come along with that with habitual use.

Swim only uses a handful times a year and usually binges, but does so to a somewhat safe degree.

This is done by purifying the cocaine, this should always be done if one can easily get the supplies (and more than likely one can easily get them).
As well as by following nose maintainance and following some of the good advice given in the nose care thread.
In addition, limiting oneself to a said amount is a good idea (like a gram for the nite, or only purchasing an amount that one knows will not cause problems).
Also, listen to the body....when something is wrong, it usually will tell you...if snorting becomes painful, stop doing so. If you feel too stimulated or feel uncomfortable stop for a while as well...the powder will still be there when swiy gets back.

[Ikku]

Gah, SWIM noticed something that's never happened before. He had to do 4 lines to feel anything. He's never experienced a tolerance to cocaine, but he assumes that going from doing half a gram in a night to an eightball in a day does that. If nothing else, his nose was too caked over to absorb very much cocaine.

Overall it was a fun day of consuming way more cocaine than he's used to, and suffering no adverse effects 3 hours after the last line. Here's hoping he doesn't feel like shit when he wakes up.

[dcrn]

The most common way 2 get addicted 2 cocaine is a binge. SWIM would stay away from binge to prevent high tolerance + high addiction.

[theunlovedlover]

1.5 grams in 12 hours is nowhere near enough to have a medical problem if you are fairly fit to begin with. ive seen a lot of numbers and each persons tolerance is different naturally and built up, but in one sitting a first time user can do between 2-5 grams without overdose. ive personally seen someone do a 6 gram line. and 14 grams in 14 minutes. similar to the guy that movie blow is about doing 10 grams in 10 minutes. every case is different every body is different and may reject things faster slower or more intensely than someone elses. and from my experience with cocaine is that it has almost nothing to do with weight. of course to an extent but a 30-40+ pound difference can go adversely to what you may think. ie: 90lb 15 year old shoots 50ccs white heroin, 215lb guy sees this and figures he wont have a problem doing the same and ends up oding on the spot

[dcrn]

Originally Posted by theunlovedlover

1.5 grams in 12 hours is nowhere near enough to have a medical problem if you are fairly fit to begin with. ive seen a lot of numbers and each persons tolerance is different naturally and built up, but in one sitting a first time user can do between 2-5 grams without overdose. ive personally seen someone do a 6 gram line. and 14 grams in 14 minutes. similar to the guy that movie blow is about doing 10 grams in 10 minutes. every case is different every body is different and may reject things faster slower or more intensely than someone elses. and from my experience with cocaine is that it has almost nothing to do with weight. of course to an extent but a 30-40+ pound difference can go adversely to what you may think. ie: 90lb 15 year old shoots 50ccs white heroin, 215lb guy sees this and figures he wont have a problem doing the same and ends up oding on the spot

6 grams in a line ? thats not hard to believe but I guarantee you it must of been a shitty coke. No way in hell someone can do 6 grams at once and not overdose, experience near death situation but I'd bet my money on it he/she wouldn't survive. And 14 grams in 14 mins - jesus christ its impossible to consume that much cocaine up your nose.... and 10 grams in 10 mins that george jung did it... its also hard to believe...

[Raw edge]

Originally Posted by theunlovedlover

1.5 grams in 12 hours is nowhere near enough to have a medical problem if you are fairly fit to begin with. ive seen a lot of numbers and each persons tolerance is different naturally and built up, but in one sitting a first time user can do between 2-5 grams without overdose. ive personally seen someone do a 6 gram line. and 14 grams in 14 minutes. similar to the guy that movie blow is about doing 10 grams in 10 minutes. every case is different every body is different and may reject things faster slower or more intensely than someone elses. and from my experience with cocaine is that it has almost nothing to do with weight. of course to an extent but a 30-40+ pound difference can go adversely to what you may think. ie: 90lb 15 year old shoots 50ccs white heroin, 215lb guy sees this and figures he wont have a problem doing the same and ends up oding on the spot

Agreed for the most part. Swim ahs reported sharing anywhere some a gram to an eight in anight without incidence. He say he has only done coke about ten times, in course of about a year. SO he would have alow tolerance.

[fnord]

a 160lb human can do 6.8 grams (does that sound right?)according to its ld50.i have no info on how long of a period this can be done in.


According to a paper published in the journal Pharmacology, Biochemistry, & Behavior, the LD50 of Cocaine when administered IP in Mice was 95.1 mg/kg. The reference for this data is:

Bedford JA, Turner CE, Elsohly HN. Comparative lethality of coca and cocaine. Pharmacol Biochem Behav 1982 Nov; 17(5):1087-8.

[trptamene]

Using the LD50 of mice (95.1mg/kg), & the exact conversion (1 pound = 0.45359237 kilograms) yes (95.1 x 0.454 x 160 = 6.90 g).

Does anyone have an exact ld50 for man?

EDIT - 6.9g is FUCKING RETARDED! Just because you would only die half the time, doesn't mean it will be pleasant the other half.

[fnord]

yea im well aware that that much coke would probably kill someone/result in an unpleasant experience.hell one could die from only a 1/2 a gram,ld50s dont really mean that much besides giving a baseline.