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Living entire lifes while unconscious

Well... ive read some interesting reports about some people who seemed to have lived an entire lifetime while unconscious... this two reports tells their stories:

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Originally Posted by Robert Peterson
Another experience happened when I was a little older, perhaps 14 or 15. I used to have playful wrestling matches with two other boys.

One day we were talking about wrestling, and got on the subject of the world-famous wrestling hold called "the sleeper hold." The hold would knock an opponent out by cutting off blood circulation to the brain. Anyway, we all wondered what it would be like to be knocked out. FD was the strongest of the three and the third boy was afraid, so I agreed to let FD knock me out with a bear-hug.

We went outside and he gave me the strongest bear-hug I've ever experienced. I couldn't breathe and soon became unconscious. It was like waking from a dream; this world was a dream and I awoke to a reality more real and vivid than this world is. I saw the illusion of this existence on Earth dispelled! It faded away and I didn't regret it. Soon I found myself in the "real" world in a huge city that I already knew.

My memory seemed to return--Yes--I had gone to sleep and dreamed of a little place called "Earth" and now I was awake. "That was a silly dream" I thought, and I soon forgot all about "Earth." I continued my life, just like before I fell asleep. I lived in that fantastic city for years and years--centuries it seemed. I lived there so long that I COMPLETELY forgot all about Earth. For hundreds of years I had forgotten Earth. If someone was to ask me about it, I couldn't remember, since it happened so long ago.

Then one day I was walking to a store. Suddenly a confusing loss of direction hit me and I felt myself falling. Suddenly I opened my eyes only to see strange leaves, the sky and FD and the other boy looking at me! Where was I now? How did I get here? What happened? Then I remembered: Hundreds of years ago, I fell asleep and found myself here. This place was called "Earth" and was a part of a weird dream. I must have fallen asleep again. Slowly my Earthly memory returned. I asked the boys how long I had been unconscious. They said only a few minutes. They asked me what happened, and I told them I didn't want to talk about it.
(From Robert Peterson - Out of Body Experiences - Chapter 2)


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Originally Posted by Jim deKorne
By the winter of 1971 (...) we were living in my house in the mountains of New Mexico. (...) One bitterly cold January dusk we drove over to Taos to have supper with some friends of my wife. I didn't know these people very well, and when the husband arrived home late from his job as a ski instructor it was obvious that he was dead tired and had completely forgotten that we'd been invited to be dinner guests that evening. In short, he was barely civil to us, evoking in everyone, his wife in particular, an understandably awkward embarassment.

In an attempt to smooth out the social ambiance, she torched up a joint which was duly passed around among the adults at the supper table. It was a mistake for me to have smoked any, because I was not at all prepared for the unconscious wave of hostility which continued to emerge from our host.

This was totally non-verbal, unrelated to his overt behavior (which by then was quite civil), and was experienced by me as a palpable force which attacked my solar plexus -- sort of like psychically having the wind kicked out of me. (...)

Later I was to learn that this man had been studying Native American (especially Navajo) witchcraft for several years, but I must emphasize that at this point I don't think he was aware that he was doing anything to me -- the whole experience had a dark, unconscious quality to it. Also, I did know him well enough to be able to assume a general goodwill on his part -- when he wasn't tired and unconscious anyway.

That didn't help me much, however. I'd already allowed the cannabis to open up my normal ego defenses and I began to feel like I was going to faint. I quickly realized that I was actually in a state of shock and that I was about to pass out! I stumbled from the table, blathering something about needing to "get some fresh air." The night-time temperatures in Taos had been hovering around twenty below zero for nearly a week, and this sudden concussion of coldness hit me like another blow as I stepped from the house. I lurched against the fender of our truck and had a brief vision of the milky way galaxy as specks of light frozen in a black void of lung-searing oxygen, then I was out cold, as they say.

This is hard to describe. I lived an entire human lifetime. Perhaps it was a memory of another life, because it seemed to take place in the Eighteenth Century -- lots of horse-drawn vehicles and people wearing period clothing. But that's not what seems important. What impressed me was that it was an entire life, from birth through old age and eventual death. And it progressed in "real time," -- it was not in any way speeded up. Yet, at the moment of my death at a relatively advanced age I awoke to find myself lying in a frozen Taos driveway next to the mud-caked tire of a 1970 Toyota pickup truck.

I had just fallen -- that memory came surging back like a tidal wave which washed away most (but not all) of the memory of my other existence. The "lifetime" had occurred between the moment I passed out and the moment I hit the ground, a mere second or two of "our" time. I managed to stand up, take a few gulps of frigid air, and make my way back inside. To get a "reality check" on my time-sense, I asked how long I'd been gone. Everyone cracked up in stoned laughter -- you just left for Christ's sake!

Then they saw my face and it was suddenly all solicitous concern -- here, you'd better lie down, do you want some water? Etc. They said that I had no color in my face at all. Although they were all still very stoned, I was stone sober.
(from Jim deKorne - Psychedelic Shamanism)

So, have you ever experienced something like this? (With or without the use of any substances). If so, how it was?

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  A really interesting subject! Would be great if you have more similar reports to share.
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