Health - swims prescription stopped...can they just cut off someones pain meds?

[mashed]

swim needs some advice...
swim has been prescribed co-codamol for very bad pain
swim started on 15/500 co-codamol (uk docotrs wont prescribe anything stronger than co-codamol unless youre bascially dying)
swim was off H at this time as well just to note
the 15/500 didnt work at all so swim went back,to the dcotors and was prescribed 30/500 it said on the label take 1-2 up too 4 times a day.
swim took them when needed and ended up maxing his dose too 8 pills a day but still the pain was there.swim went in too collect his prescription as usual and i only had 20 tablets instead off the usual 100 too last me a month.swim used them with in 4 days and swim needed another prescrition as swim was in agony
swim went to pick his prescption up and there was a note saying see doctor so swim amde an apointment.when swim went swim was treated like total scum.and told how swim is an addict and swim should in no way be takeing 8 pills a day (despite being told on the label i could take up too this)swim was told pills would be dropped too 15/500 and swim would have to wait 6 weeks for a prescription despite not having ANY pain meds at that time.swim seen another doctor who was slightly more sympathectic and prescribed me 30/500 again but only 15.
swim then asked for another prescription the week after and was told that swim had been reported by receptionist for putting so many repeats in (i didnt even put that many in onyl what i needed.and swim would not be prescribed any co-codamol any more and was switched to anit inflamitries.swim went to the doctor the folowing month after trying the anti inflamirties and they didnt work at all so swim asked for the co-coamol and was told "no there not prescribed for your type off pain dont ask again"
even though theyd prescribedthem for weeks.
swim has no been left with no meds and has gone back to using H but now even her supply off that has dried up
swims tried buying pain meds online but no luck
sorry for suck a long post but i guess swims question is how are they alowed to just cut someones meds like that and is there any way to get back on them?
thanks for reading

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good topic,it happens to alot of people,from cp pt's to scamers

[yaba]

Sorry to hear that.. But think they can specially if it looks like abuse (to many repeats) Swim was on tramadol before for his genuine back pain and was on venlefaxine for his (GAD) and stopped the tramadol after his girlfriend told him it turned him in a monster, he was abusing them...

Then he changed Doctors this one is closer so makes sense and he stopped the venlafaxine and his anxiety went true the roof. And he managed to get 3x5mg of diazepam daily. When he went to his Doctor and asked for tramadol she told him no. And I said: been on them before so why not ? She told him am not going to give you morphine related drugs and I already have given you the diazepam.

Now swim thinks what are you ? A Doctor or a drug dealer with a conscience ?

And there are people who swim knows and she gives them dihydrocodeine in large amounts. Now swim can get co-codamol 30/500 ones easily from the Doctor but the are useless, he thinks.

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A lot of docs wont prescribe benzos and opiates together because of greatly increased OD rates together

[thebige]

Yes,they can do whatever they wan't.........
They are doctors you know.....and have worked long and hard to get there....so thats puts them at the top of medical field...............and many have saved a life in the ER......So they now are Gods in their own mind....
Didn't you know that Gods do as they please..........
Only kidding(not)
You may have done something to piss him off
He may of had a bad day and took it out on you
Your ailment doesn't require long term opiates in the doctor bible
You showed addict behavior
You are a addict
I don't know.......but your best bet is to find a new doctor.Sucks ass but good luck.

[yaba]

Doctors do think they are god, one of swims friends is a Doctor and he is an arrogant bastard at times ! And he knows that but he is saying I want to be a professor one day and need to think am better then anyone else to give me the motivation to study.

And he is a real friend swim can call him for help 24/7 and he will be there for him ! But he won't give swim any drugs but he knows what swim is like and will give him advice on things. Like he told swim if you ever want to stop taking drugs I will help you to do that !(meaning benzo's and sleepers) And he told swim am surprised you got a repeat script for diazepam as I would have told you to fu*k off ! And see straight true you. LOL

And we agreed me him and his girlfriend whatever is being discussed will stay private and swim can trust them on that.

[trannyboy]

Yes and No, if it was medically appropriate to refuse you then they are expected to. If it is medically appropriate for you to have them, then no. I must say that is a warning sign if you were formerly using heroin and used it again after being refused other drugs. It it is also a possible warning sign how often you took them. It warns that either your pain is not being managed or you are abusing them. Doctor shopping is another warning sign and don't kid yourself that the pharmacy wouldn't call your doctors to say you have been prescribed from multiple doctors.

So if you truly have a medical problem and not an addiction then you could complain to the reglatory body in your country. You will have to have other doctors backing up your medical need. However it will probably make you extremely unpopular with doctors in your area and it usually takes some times but you might get justice.

If on the other hand after searching your soul you conclude that it was addiction, I wouldn't bother. Not only will the negatives that I listed above occur but you would waste your time and others and still won't win.

The same would almost certainly appply if no doctors will support your need for narcotics. However you are still welcome to try. I don't know your heart but you should give this some careful thought. There is also the reality that this is time consuming and might your time be better spent befriending a new doctor if you are truly in pain, that way you can be out of pain? It is your call if you choose to report, just think about it carefully.

trannyboy

[jon-q]

The simple answer is yes; DR’s can refuse and will refuse to give out repeat prescriptions if you are using more medication than prescribed.
Swims granny once used up her monthly supply of CO-Proxamol in 2 weeks and the DR made her wait over a week before he would give out another prescription.
DR’s are super sensitive when it comes to prescribing pain meds at the best of times and to be honest I’m surprised the quack gave out CO-codamol in the first place, assuming he suspected swiy was using H of course.

So what do you do, well Co-codamol 8/500 can be purchased from any chemist in the UK, they will probably ask you a few questions mind, tooth ache usually works for swim. The chemist will only hand over 1 packet (32 tablets) and they will refuse to give them out if they suspect any possible abuse (don’t go in looking dodgy), a quick CWE (use the search engine for more info) and swiy will have over 200mg of Codeine to use, find half a dozen chemists and swiys sorted.
Or you could go and talk to the local community drugs team; I’m sure they would be very understanding and probably prescribe some meds (probably have to wait about 4-6 weeks)
Best of luck and let us know how you go on.
Q
Didn't realise it was you mashed, swiy should know all about CWE's..

[ConcertaXL]

SWIM has no problem buying co-codamol, he doesnt look "suspicious" (spotty, short hair, jerking movements, appearing spaced out etc.) But has been refused Actifed (DXM plus pseudoephedrine) and offered "simple linctus BP" instead! Sorry to hear you had your script stopped, it's quite a frequent thing and you're right about most doctors not prescribing anything above codeine. I'm waiting for the day the American pop-a-Perc, snort-an-Oxy, bang-a-Dillie and smoke gel from a Duragesic culture comes over the Atlantic.

[blipblop]

Man, that sucks, I'm sorry to hear it happened. I'm also in favour of finding another doctor, there's nothing you can do to get this current doctor to keep prescribing. If you get some new stuff prescribed try to ration it as best you can.
Urgh, this kind of thing really annoys me. Doctors can be on such power trips. The oath most doctors take says "above all, do no harm", but how can making someone relapse to H possibly be considered helpful?! It's so frustrating.
Is there any chance you could get to rehab to manage to keep off other things while dealing with current issues?

[Borger]

The short answer: yea they can cut you off like that.

Looking for another doctor is the best option if you are being straight about your condition. But let me throw you some advice that won't cost you a cent. the next time you see a doctor, don't just tell him you are in agony and expect to get results from him. that is a big tip-off that someone is searching for a hit.

ASK the doctor "What can be done to relieve the pain?" and DO NOT say another word! At that point, the ball has been put firmly in the doctor's court without you telling him what you need. This gave a friend of mine good results without the usual suspicious looks.

Sometimes it's as simple as asking WITHOUT telling. No guarantees but worth a try. Beats going without an in agony.

[honourableone]

A lot of these replies saying to get a new doctor don't seem to take into account that the OP is in Wales. He won't pay the doctor, so saying that "he expects to get results" will do nothing to piss the doctor off. Also, if he goes to another doctor in the same surgery then the doctor will probably know about the encounter with the original doctor and be annoyed that he came back for the same thing. I don't know how comprehensive medical records are and how they get sent between surgeries, so that might be an issue if another doctor was applied for as well.

Even if you don't want to do a CWE you can buy OTC pills containing 12.8mg of codeine with 500mg of paracetamol or 200mg of ibuprofen, which can be taken concurrently, giving an overall codeine dose quite close to what you were prescribed.

[ununnilium]

SWIM has found that doctors will do pretty much whatever they want when it comes to prescribing medication. SWIM had the same thing done to her a few months back. A few years ago SWIM had a minor accident and it left her with a very painful back problem. The doctor she had then gave her 15mg co-codamol and 30mg codeine only tablets for when the pain was bad. Unfortunately that doctor retired and she got a sadistic feck that cut her off without any warning. As SWIM has no recorded history of recreational drug use there was no reason for the doctor to refuse a prescription except that he believed that she was "too young to be using this kind of pain medication." SWIM's 93 y/o granny had the same doctor who was also refused any more pain medication so SWIM doubts that was the real reason. SWIM was pleased to find that the poppies growing in her garden were papaver somniferum.

Although it is difficult when you are in pain, it may be better to avoid scrounging around too many doctors for pain killers as SWIY really doesn't want it on their medical records that they are a "drug seeker," especially when it is possible to buy codeine OTC. SWIM buys pholcodeine linctus and takes as much as needed alongside paracetamol. Do a search for online pharmacies [the legal UK based ones] and SWIY should be able to get a few bottles. Now that it is getting warm the pharmacist may want to know why SWIY needs cough medicine, especially if you order more than a couple of bottles of it.

SWIM finds it kind of strange that doctors can cut someone's medicine off when in 2006 some addicts sued because they were made to go cold turkey in prison and they received an out of court settlement. They considered it assault and a breach of human rights. Maybe people should start suing those who made the regulations as making people endure pain surely is a breach of human rights...