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Old 14-04-2009, 17:24
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Flourine addition

where can i find the base chemicals for piprezines..........and what does the flourine addition to the compound do to the psychoactive effect.

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Old 14-04-2009, 19:15
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Re: Flourine addition

Does swiy mean reactants when swiy refers to base?
also swim would imagine that the effects would be similar to TFMPP (trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine), however if swiy is planning on making a molecule that contains / using fluorine to make it would be highly dangerous, as other products containing fluorine may also be made during the process (also fluorine is hard to get a hold due to the highly reactive / highly electronegative(the readyness to attract bonding electrons) properties), anyway swim imagines that the effects would be similar to these:
-Increased socialibility
-Increased desire to touch and love
-Enhanced tactile sensations (it felt good to touch things)
-A feeling of "oneness" with the crowd, and with my date
-A desire to be very close and to share love with my date"

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Whereas the effects of another piperazine are as follows:
Upon ingestion of between 50 mg and 200 mg of BZP, the user may experience any or all of the following:
Coming up:
Actual and perceived changes in body temperature
Slight nausea
Flushing
Mild xerostomia (dry mouth)
Rapid mood elevation
Mild jaw clenching/bruxism
Increased heart rate
Enhanced sociability
Repetitive thought patterns
Dilation of pupils (see photo)
Decreased appetite
Slight urinary incontinence, often described as "leaking" a small amount of urine after urinating (not due to loss of bladder control)
"Rushing" sensation
Enhanced appreciation of music
Skin tingling
Feelings of euphoria, wonder, amazement, well-being, energy and elation
Increased desire to move, also slight increase in stereotypy

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