Drug info - Party shnacks- Phat Freddys Tripsta

[Alfa]

The producer lists the following information:

Phat Freddys Tripsta (3 capsules) (A Strong Level E Sensory Pill)

A Strong Level E Sensory Pill suitable for most users.
Great for Tripping out!

Tripsta is designed to give a euphoric buzz for up to 6 hours.

Contains: Caffiene, Green tea extract, Geranium extract, Yerba mate, Guarana, Capsaicin, Kaia nut, Ginseng, Gelatin, Steric acid, Magnesium sterate, Titanium dioxide, coloring.

Usage: Take 1 pill per 24hrs. Do not double drop.

Does anyone have experience or information about this product?
Please list dose, duration, side effects and after effects.

[geezaman]

Snuffkin had not tried party pills in almost a year following much disappointment over their effects and an annoyance at the body-load many seemed to give with a distracting and unpleasant mild nausea throughout (in relation to piperazine containing pills). However recently got the opportunity to try these and thought why not (at least with no piperazines he thought there would be no unpleasant effects... but with ingredients that seemed mundane he was infact expecting little effects at all, He was wrong )

# Body weight & gender- Male, 82kg/13stone, Healthy, 21yo.
# Dose taken- 1 capsule (As advised by packaging)
# Setting- In room late afternoon (16.45)
# Duration- 6 hours+
# Main effects- Physical rushes, tingley skin (identical to the feeling of goosebumps) increased energy, moodlift/slight euphoria, urge to move about.
# Side effects- Only real side effect noticed was anorexia, otherwise slight leg weakness/ jellied leg effect, at one point pupils seemed slightly dilated but nothing really noticeable and was not apparent later.
# After effects- none noticed
# Rating of the experience- 8/10 - for a legal this was really impressive, at no point was it amazing but it was really damn nice for a good long time, And very importantly with none of the negative effects Snuffkin previously would have considered part and parcel of party pills.
# Addictive qualities/abuse potential- Would depend on cost and other options available at time, could quite happily use it daily but would seriously consider it something to brighten a Saturday afternoon every other week.
# Other information- SWIM had eaten a McDonald's meal 5 hours prior to the experience


Snuffkin recorded the following and asked that i pass it on-

00.00- consumed with water.
00.45- Feels slightly speedy, slight head pressure also, but not unpleasant, mood lift, smiling comes easily and feels natural without effort, mild euphoria, feels as though my head is being massaged gently.
01.00- Very buzzy, feels like things are happening fast.
01.10- A lul just happened in the buzz (hope thats not it)
01.45- Alert, energy, tingley effects all over skin comes about whenever i move
02.45- Effects still apparent but less strong, still getting skin rushes, and mild euphoria, light and dark wavy CEVs apparent
03.30 Euphoria mostly gone, rushes less regular.
04.30 Mildly colorful visual snow very fine in consistency
05.15 (22.00) Skin tingling still occurring, but less strong and less regularly (at peak it was almost constant)

After that point the effects gradually drifted away until Snuffkin was able to sleep just over 2 hours later

Overall very nice, would definitely try again in future, would think about taking two to see if this could produce a more defined peak, or perhaps mixing with cannabis. Wonder if alcohol might destroy the pleasant effects so this would not be on Snuffkins list of things to mix it with.

Snuffkin understands trippy to be hallucinogenic or providing OEVs or CEVs and presumed this was implied by "Tripsta", these capsules did not do that. But the effects described on the pack as "E sensory" he would agree these capsules definitely did do.


Peace
Geezaman

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Good report, ta
	Thanks for sharing the report, and being the first to report on a product.

[Metomni]

Okay!

SWIM got these a few days ago and he and a penguin friend decided to try them today. Following are the reports written up by both penguins and SWIM will follow that up with a few words and thoughts on the pills.

Experience #1:

Size: 5'11" - 130 lbs - Male
Dose: 1 pill as stated in packaging
Duration: ~ 8 hours

T - 30 min - Initial head rush and body load but nothing to write home about.

T - 50 min - After not feeling much besides disappointment, penguins friend mentions how strongly he feels it. Penguin stands up and upon sitting back down realizes he has a head rush and quite an intense body high. He would describe it as that very very first feeling one gets when doing mushrooms, you know, right when you're not sure if you're tripping yet or not. Yeah, that feeling. Pretty fucking good.

T - ~ 1:00 - after thinking the effects were good and getting into heated talks due to increased levels of brain craziness, swim realizes it's more than just a body high. He is tingly and floaty as well. He kind of feels like he took an oxycodone and he is floating a foot above where he is sitting and his brain waves are like a tide pool rushing back and forth. REALLY cool and really unexpectedly strong effects.

Seriously, if this happens for six hours, completely satisfied. Feels like the beginning of a psychedelic experience that swim hasn't tried at this point. Crazy head rushes.

T - 1:10 - Some weird feelings that aren't too bad but aren't inherently good. Throat feels tight and scratchy and ears feel like they're under water with lots of pressure. Disconcerting but definitely not trip ruining at all, though swim hopes it passes.

T - ~2:00 - Really tired, but definitely cannot sleep.

T - 3:30 - Blunt smokeage ensues for penguin and friends and realization that swim is still feeling it a good bit occurs.

T - 7:00 - Still feeling body load, kind of wish it would go away

Experience #2:

Size: 6'3" - 205 lbs - Male
Dose: 1 pill as instructed
Duration: ~ 4 hours

T - 35 min - Start to feel slight buzz.

T - 45 min - Keep coming up

T - ~1:00 - Very strong body high; disjointed thoughts, finding it hard to concentrate, mild euphoria more of the same. not expecting much more then this. completely satisfied.

T - 1:15 - Stood up for the first time a while. interesting feeling in limbs and a little awkward walking. kind of similar to walking while on dxm; Turned on some music. Effects noticably increase

T - 1:30 - Still good effects, although starting to get a pretty bad headache bad headache, sweaty. overpowers all good effects. go upstairs to lay in bed. headache is too bad start to get nauseous

T - 2:00 - Vomit. nausea goes away nausea comes back suddenly and vomit again at 3:45 and 4:05 Fall into uncomfortable sleep until 5:35.

T - 4:00 - Still have mild body high and a bearable headache


As you can see, SWIM's friend got pretty sick and did not have an enjoyable experience. He says he thinks he got a migraine and that it was not the pills because he was having a great time and then migraine symptoms kicked in. Cannot say whether or not this was caused by the pill, or an allergy, or if the two events are unrelated. With so few reports on the product, SWIM figured this might be worth mentioning even if unrelated most likely.

SWIM will say the effects lasted for a very long time for him and got very annoying towards the end of the experience. That said, the experience as a whole was very nice. SWIM gets chronic migraines and did not get a headache on this pill so he is guessing his friend was just unfortunate.

Peace!

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Helpful post outlining both the potential positives and negatives.
	Thanks for the reports. Maybe include age if possible.

[Nature Boy]

SWIM received his yesterday, hasn't taken them yet but is not very impressed with the presentation. The packaging consisted of a standard baggie with a cheap-looking print-out label stapled onto it. The pills themselves look like big, red cyanide capsules. Going down the list of ingredients, he's pretty certain the only psychoactive chemical present is caffeine and in indeterminable amounts. If SWIM does decide to use them, he will post up a report but he might not indulge in them any time soon. The thought of ingesting the equivalent of 5+ espressos doesn't really tempt him that much.

Does anyone have any idea, mg-wise, what the caffeine content in these are? SWIM has a fairly high tolerance for caffeine but doesn't like the idea of being maxed out on it.

[Alfa]

Likely Geranium i.e. DMAA is the active ingredient.

[Nature Boy]

Originally Posted by Alfa

Likely Geranium i.e. DMAA is the active ingredient.

Geranamine is most effective when put through the nasal passage therefore it wouldn't be insane to suggest that insufflating these pills would be more effective than swallowing them. Then again, capsaicin through the nose could be quite horrible.

I suspect that caffeine is still the main ingredient because it is listed first in the list of ingredients, followed by green tea extract (which also contains caffeine). Typically, ingredients are listed in order of quantity (though the packaging would lead you to think that these measures may not have been taken). The geranium extract is listed third suggesting there is more of it present than yerba mate and guarana. I wonder what the typical geranamine dose would be. Would it fall above or below the typical dose of guarana for example? This would give a clearer indicator as to what SWIM should be expecting.

[geezaman]

@ Nature boy - Snuffkin is a heavy coffee drinker and has more than once taken caffine too far* usually with through over use of pure caffeine powder (*too far being a jaw clenching, sweaty, grey skinned, heart racing and highly nauseous and tense state)

He wouldn't consider the effect of caffeine in these pills was particularly strong, and however much was there there were no unpleasant effects except for a slightly knotted stomach (only very slight) right at the end ten hours after last eating, so he assumes it was more due to lack of food than the caffeine.

Hope another SWIM can offer Natureboy an actual quantity of caffeine contained.

Peace
Geezaman

[Alfa]

There are free samples available for gold members. Please ask for the coupon code in the sources forum.

[RaverHippie]

My raver friend grabbed one of these on his way to a party tonight and wanted me to relay what he learned about these capsules.

subject is 6'3", male, 20yo, and about 170lbs.

overall my friend is usually a lightweight with most things and caffeine is no different. He was expecting to be overwhelmed by the usual tweaking energy that the stimulant gives him from either coffee tea or energy drinks. He didn't really notice the effects for a long time, he had consumed a large meal prior to dropping. He was getting over a flu so this may have played a small role.

Effects.
-Took at least an hour to begin to feel effects; noticed slight changes in behavior and demeanor prior to this (disinterested in physical activity and increased enjoyment from watching things)
-Pleasant amount of energy, not overwhelming, still able to form coherent thoughts and expand upon them. The combination of different stimulants gives it a smoother feeling which makes it more hospitable to the caffeine-sensitive.
-A slight body high similar to diphenhydramine where coordination is slightly off kilter and the body seems lighter and joints seem like jelly a little bit.
-Skin is very sensitive for some reason.
-male organs shrunk while on it but when provoked an erection was not difficult to achieve, maintain, or climax and was quite pleasurable to do so, more than normal.
-Lost motivation to go to a party when it was originally thought that the tripsta would lend its energy well to give motivation to go the distance and go to the party. But the amount of walking and public transportation seemed insurmountable, which is quite uncharacteristic of my raver friend.
-it was enjoyable to sit down on a busy local street and watch the neighborhood go about their business on a friday night.
-Overall there may have been slight euphoria or it could have just been the enjoyment my friend got out of whatever given activity he was pursuing at the time, either way, he was having a good time throughout the experience.
-No visual distortion effects could be distinguished.

Overall the experience seemed more conducive to relaxing and stretching out physically and possibly carrying on conversation with friends than a night out dancing or clubbing or something. The physical feelings just didn't seem to match out with much physical exertion. My raver friend even sat down on a bench halfway between his house and the grocery store which is only a few blocks away simply because he didn't want to be moving anymore. It was more pleasing to relax and people watch. My friend was fine eating while on it while coming up. It was a very pleasant experience and even more gratifying with the knowledge that it was a legal herbal supplement which produced these effects. Definitely recommended given that last qualifier.

Just as a comparison to Geezaman's post, no headaches or stomach aches were present throughout any portion of the night. My friend is prone to never getting headaches but his stomach is sometimes finicky so he was pleased that these negative effects never surfaced and may have been an anomaly for SwiGeezaman.