ego death and me

[Iggypoop]

Hi all, i've been reading up on ego-death recently and i've become quite intrigued by the whole subject... damn i want to experience the unexplainable!


I've tripped quite a few times on mushies, 2c-b and 2c-i and the first time i took mushies (liberty caps, unknown dosage, silly me) i freaked out, i had to go and lie in bed with liquid skin and horrible thoughts that i couldn't control. This royally scared the shit out of me but gave me much more respect for psychedelics but i wanted to try again, so i did, with MUCH better results since.


Thing is that i've had paranoia from smoking weed a few times before and i'm just really scared that if i go for the daddy (ego loss) that i'll flip out and go mental, like i'll get paranoid scichzophrenia (damn i can't spell it, oh well) or something. I've only ever got this from smoking weed and mixing weed with other things (generally coming down from mdma or shrooms etc) does anyone else get this?


Ok well enough of my rambling... I don't want you to tell me whether i should go for it or not but i'd like some input on the subject to help me make a better informed decison.


Thanks in advance


iggy


edit: if anyone here has experienced paranoia and has gone through the peak experience, i'd especially like input from you as it would be most helpful, thanks.Edited by: Iggypoop

[daeron]

when i first tried lsd(long time ago-3-4blots,cant remember)i lost my ego,at first i was scared outta my mind,but since ive read about it a lot,i was able to get it under control.my advice:do it and forget about the paranoia,fear and shit.You know it is just a trip,and that it will pass...like i always say to my friend,youre stuck with it for the next ~8hrs,so why not enjoy it?

[Iggypoop]

Thanks D, yeah with my first mushie trip when i was freaking out i knew that at the end of it i would come through okbut i just couldn't enjoy the experience at all, i was too busy being scared shitless by demons and angels flying round my brain....


I think since that first time, i knew afterwards that all the negative energy was coming from me and by getting involved with it and thinking it was making it worse. I had a pretty intense 2c-i trip not so long ago (eyeballed- oops again, i've bought a scale since then) and was able to just go along with it rather than fight but it was still fuckin intense!


Shit-god-damn i'm just going to do it one of these days i KNOW i'll be fine...

[daeron]

now the only problem is this-you can never predict when youre going to lose yourself(literaly).its not like you wake up one morning take a shitload of cid and say ahh what a nice morning i think i shall lose my ego today.indeed.little pinkie up,cheerioo,and all that posh talk.


ive lost myself completely at least a dozen times,but it always was sudden&unexpected,once even in a club.can anyone induce ego loss deliberately,in a controlled environment?and im not talking about the K-hole,im talking about acid.


have you thought of K-holing yerself first?

[Iggypoop]

I don't have any access to ketamine, althoughi can probably get some if i really want it,do you think that would be a better way to go about it? I would have thought a large dose of any psychadelic would be enough to bring on ego loss? Then again you've got experience with it, i on the other hand don't.

[Nature Boy]

LSD shouldn't be done unless you know what you're doing and are confident. You don't need me to tell you this but remember all the same.

[Iggypoop]

lol, i have done psychedelics before and i'll not be taking ellis dee (not for want of trying),thats not the problem. I'm talking more about taking it to another level... I'm pretty confident now that i'll be ok.Edited by: Iggypoop

[uqlfy]

Try reading up on transcendental meditation. Ive found that Im more likely to experience egodeath if I look for it than if Im say playing video games. Seek and you shall find.

[Iggypoop]

Yeah i've read a (tiny) little bit about it before, doyou havesome good sites for reading up on it?


I've heard of people using 'flasher' or 'brainwave generator' to help bring on ego loss, does anyone have any experience with these?


www.bwgen.com


I can't remember where to get flasher

[Hyperreal]

www.egodeath.com is an excellent and very thorough resource.

[uqlfy]

Two sites to check out. In the interest of presenting both sides one is positive the other negative.

trancenet.org

elementdancing.com