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Old 06-04-2009, 22:52
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MS contin

Should anyones pet monkey come across a 10mg ms contin, what amount would be safe to toot considering monkey thearetically consumes around 180mg dhc and 200mg tramadol and feels there room for improvement. Is 10 enought for monkey ? and also is it possible to extract just the good stuff as my monkeys english reading brother has read the time release stuff clogs up nostrils.
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Old 07-04-2009, 14:06
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Re: MS contin

10mg ms contin MIGHT be a bit of a diffrent feeling for SWIY compared to what they usually take.SWIY MIGHT find it a bit more euphoric.As for railling them it depends on the brand they have.SWIM has had one that once the coating is wiped off and it's ground into a FINE powder it works great,then again SWIM has also had some that gell up no matter how fine it's ground up.

Does SWIY know the brand?
Another thing that SWIY might hear,which is true,is that MS is best used via IV but I hope SWIY really dosn't want to go that way as there are too many problems via this rout unless it is already made for I.V use.

Another way is analy.It is absorbed just as good as if it were IV'd.However like SWIM said it depends on the brand.Good Luck!!
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Old 08-04-2009, 19:47
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Re: MS contin

Thanks. SWIM believes it a NAPP brand. SWIM railed around half a one and dropped the other half, nostril was blocked but not bad apparently. Didn't appear to do much and SWIM consumed his scripted DHC & Tramadol an hour or so later. This leads SWIM to believe that replacing daily dose with 10mg may not suffice, is it safe to add to his normal daily dose (which is needed for pain and to stop withdrawls now) or will the mix not work or be a little on the dodgy side. SWIM is trying to stay safe while pushing a boundery and maybe quelling his pain into the bargin. All advise will be passed onto SWIM instantly
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Old 08-04-2009, 22:18
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Re: MS contin

SWIM really can't advise SWIY on how much to take and exactly what mix to use.However if SWIY has taken their normal dose of daily PN meds and on top of that has added "extra" then it's safe to say SWIY should be safe as long as they do it SLOWLY.Adding little bits at a time is the way to go,SWIY dosn't want to find out that they over did it while in a hospital,Ya' know what SWIM means.Space out the doses so that there is time enough in between to feel some effects insted of everything hitting SWIY all at once.
Good Luck,and Stay Safe!!!!

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Good advice, Telling the OP to use caution when adding to pre-existing medication is always wise.
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Old 08-04-2009, 22:42
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Re: MS contin

10mg is almost nothing... Extended Release is even more boring at this level. Try getting your hands on a 50mg Sevredol or 30/60mg MS contin. If you are already on high doses of weaker opiates you're not likely to notice a major difference.

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Advising rather large doses

Last edited by ConcertaXL; 08-04-2009 at 22:43. Reason: Changed advice to make it safer
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Old 08-04-2009, 22:59
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Re: MS contin

Thanks again bro. SWIM likes the word safe and keeps the thought of everything he could fuck up by being silly in his mind to keep him safe, although he is more than aware accidents happen...
Swims main concern there could have been a codiene like deal where you take some then the next lot will not do anything, or that either DHC or Trams would interfere or worse, the MS would block the usual PN doses and throw swim into withdrawl which would completly fuck up his day) SWIM only has a couple that were salvaged from going in the bin and has no intention of hunting more down so just wanted to make sure he was approaching everything correctly before a nice warm easter break.

cockney added 6 Minutes and 23 Seconds later...

SWIM is not really sure what a high dose of weaker opies is ? is 2-300mg tram over the day and 120-180mg DHC in the evening everyday classed as a high dose ?
By 'boring at this level' do you mean taken as advised or crushed to defeat the extended release ? SWIM takes it these are 10mg released slowely over x hours, not 10mg released every x hours ?


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10mg is almost nothing... Extended Release is even more boring at this level. Try getting your hands on a 50mg Sevredol or 30/60mg MS contin. If you are already on high doses of weaker opiates you're not likely to notice a major difference.

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Old 08-04-2009, 23:00
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Re: MS contin

Adding the 10mg MS-Contin would be similar to adding about 75-100mg to your daily DHC dose, this wouldn’t seem to be that outrageous, If the monkey already has some tolerance to opiates it’s doubtful 10mg M/S alone would be that effective in producing any significant euphoria, it might however provide some extra pain relief when it’s taken simply as M/S Contin.
If the monkey is in pain this could reduce or even cancel out any euphoric effects the M/S could give, maybe controlling the pain first with a small amount of Tramadol, and then using the M/S may provide better effects?
Has the monkey looked in to potentiating any of the meds, the results could be surprising.
Like Mekone's post states "slowly slowly catchy monkey" is always best, you can always up the dose if needed.
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10mg M/S = 100-150mg Tramadol... 10mg M/S Contin lasts 12-24hrs that would be like having 3*35-50mg doses of Tramadol in a day.
60mg M/S Contin Snorted is not a good idea for this monkey on top of the other meds.
There shouldn't be any bad or adverse reactions from mixing these meds.

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Last edited by jon-q; 08-04-2009 at 23:31. Reason: Adding extra doseage info. upping dose.
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Old 08-04-2009, 23:28
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Re: MS contin

Thanks jon,
Thought 60mg sounded a lot as 10mg were prescribed at 1 twice a day for swims bedridden father in-law for sudogout...but thats more than SWIM has anyway.
He will go slow, swim doesn't have the reckless streak of years gone by ;-)

Out of interest, 10mg MS = 100-150mg Tramadol, how does this compaire with DHC ? wasn't there a comparison chart posted a while back ? Can't seem to locate it now.

Again this forum comes up with the educational goods. Thanks fella's
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Old 08-04-2009, 23:49
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Re: MS contin

Yea wiki links are being removed, there may be another guide but this will help you for starters.
This is only meant to be a rough guide for analgesia = approx conversions.

Morphine 10mg
Tramadol 100-120mg
DHC 65-80mg

Remember this is Morphine instant release. However M/S Contin crushed would give similar results.
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Old 09-04-2009, 17:25
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Re: MS contin

180mg DHC= 300mg codeine which is in the orange zone, Add tramadol 150mg and this is a pretty high dose for a moderately experienced user.
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Old 10-04-2009, 16:36
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Re: MS contin

What do you mean by orange zone ?
SWIM has been on his pain meds for over two years and has never thought of his dose as high or effective, He is usually at 300-400mg tram a day with the stated DHC does but he has impossed some moderation as his tolerence seems to be creeping up substantially and his GP or pain clinic doesn't seem like they are increasing his meds anytime soon, dispite the failure of trigger point injections.. Hence the original question regarding topping up, his GP keeps saying he is on a very high does anyway.


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180mg DHC= 300mg codeine which is in the orange zone, Add tramadol 150mg and this is a pretty high dose for a moderately experienced user.
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Re: MS contin

Here I have two different pills I believe to be MS Contin. One pill is orange: on one side it says "PH" and the other side says "60 mg". On the second pill which is blue there is "PH" on one side and "100 mg" on the other. Could anyone tell me what these pills are...( I was told they are morphine ) and if so what would be the best, safest way to take them? Sniffing? Swallowing?

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