Ayahuasca Recipes

[MescalinePirate]

Hello



I'm interested in knowing any good Ayahuasca recipes that any of you might know?

[ramblingrose]

I am also interested to hear any good mimosahuasca recipes you all
have. I have some mimosa hostilis rootbark and syrian rue seeds that
are both a year old. Do you think they will still be fully effective?
Anyways, please let me know any good recipes you have.

[Jony]

Shred 15g of MHRB in the blender. Boil this wth about 750mls water, with about 5 teaspoons of lemon concentrate juice in the water, for about 1/2 an hour. Save the liquid. Repeat this extraction again, again saving the liquid. Then discard the spent pulp.


Combine the extractions. Boil the liquid down to a drinkable amount (say 50ml).


Crush 2.5-3g syrian rue. Eat this whichever way you can (I make Rizla wraps). Eat 3/4 hour before drinking the MHRB extract.


Be careful!!!! (and dont eat anything for 12 hours before).

[ramblingrose]

woohoo! Your first post. Danks for the input. Also, does "repeat the
extraction again" mean to add another seven fifty mills of water and
five tsps of
lemon to the pot and boil again? I always wondered about that...I guess
that's the case.
Edited by: ramblingrose

[transit]

Typically “repeat the extraction” means
just what you are guessing. </span>However, given
that the MHRB is already wet, SWIM would likely use a bit less water and acid
on the second extraction.</span>

[ramblingrose]

Originally Posted by Jony

Crush 2.5-3g syrian rue. Eat this whichever way you can (I make Rizla wraps). Eat 3/4 hour before drinking the MHRB extract.


Be careful!!!! (and dont eat anything for 12 hours before).

So you wrap the seeds up in rolling paper (without crushing them first)?

[Jony]

sorry for the delay...


ramblingrose: crushed seeds with pestle and mortar, then wrapped up.


and yes, the second extaction uses a similar amount to the first. Be warned though, the two extraction method really makes a difference! I was totally f***ed!!!!

[damania]

I'm also kind of in the same situation as MescallinePirate. I purchased
an ounce of Ayahuasca vine. Before buying these i read on serveral
places that all u need to do is boil em with lemon juice to create the
brew. Now you guys say that you need syrian rue. I'm just curious
if I could make the brew without the taking any syrian rue and still
get some nice effects. I just wouldn't wanna waste everything... thanks
for all help in advance.

[Jony]

MHRB is active without an MAOI. Don't know anything about "Ayahuasca vine". Sorry

[Marsofold]

Syrian Rue is stronger than Caapi vine, but more erratic in its results. Lots of people say it is much more uncomfortable. I do not believe that MHRB is active without an MAOI. The most common beginner extraction recommendations are: 13 grams of MHRB & 50 grams of Caapi vine. Cielo (yellow) caapipreferred. Phosphoric acid extractions are supposed to be the gentlest on the stomach for minimizing nausea...Edited by: marsofold

[Jony]

.....agreed Mars, the boiled down concentrate of about 8 lemons in one gulp dosen't exactly make you feel well!! Also, the syrian rue isn't pleasant to eat (or when it comes back up again). Tastes like disgusting coffee.

[MescalinePirate]

Thanks a lot for the input, people

I'll try this tomorrow or the next day [depending on how soon I finish my essay.]

[raven3davis]

Hey mars, is it possible to do the extractions, then let it sit over night and decant, so what you drink isnt so gross. Everytime I drink ayahuasca I vomit. Also, would it work i I took one of my sisters anti depressants, which is an MAOI, instead of eating the seeds.

[MescalinePirate]

The vomiting purge is getting rid of all the illness in you, man. I for one welcome any throwing up when I drink Ayahuasca.

[Dimitri]

I just saw Jonys reciept and would say 750ml of water is far too much
for 15grams of MHRB. If you do that and want to reduce the 3x750ml (=2,2
l) to lets say 50ml it will take not just hours but days!

Based on the solutability of DMT in acidic water I would recommend for
15gs of fine powdered mimosa about 30 or 40 ml of water, destilled
water prefered. Collect the water by filtering it and repeat the
soaking with again 30-40ml and combine on the end. One hour soaking in
hot water with stirring (don't need to boil) is more than enough (30
minutes are recommended). Filter it carefully, the proteins inside the
rootbark are not prefered, you want just the well dissolved DMT. If you
have ph-paper try to get it down to 4 or 5 ph (when adding the acid).
On the end you have a cup of dark red water left. That is a drinkable
amount, but you can even reduce it to half of its volume.
Edited by: Dimitri

[sands of time]

Originally Posted by raven3davis

Hey mars, is it possible to do the extractions, then let it sit over night and decant, so what you drink isnt so gross.* Everytime I drink ayahuasca I vomit.* Also, would it work i I took one of my sisters anti depressants, which is an MAOI, instead of eating the seeds.

Anti depressents wont work because they are a long acting MAOI. Syrian rue seeds are used because they are short acting. To avoid the taste, you might be able to grind the seeds up and stuff them in gel caps. Eating the seeds whole won't work however.

[Marsofold]

Originally Posted by raven3davis

would it work i I took one of my sisters anti depressants, which is an MAOI, instead of eating the seeds.

===========


No! Don't!!! The only antidepressant useful as an MAOI is Moclebemide. All other antidepressants may actually be dangerous-to-fatal interacting with other MAOIs. Link to further info: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/maois/maois.shtml

[Toltec]

Psychotria Viridisand B. Caapi instructions



100g caapi + 100g P.viridis should be enough to make a brew for 2 or
three persons.
Soak vine sections for one or two days in clean water, than twist
and break the stems up into thin strips, the water you soaked it in
can be used in the brew. Add more water until the caapi wood is
covered and bring to a boil, then reduce heat so it ideally stays
just below the boiling point, stir from time to time and let it
steep for 4-8 hours, you can add crumbled up P. viridis leaves
for the last 60-90 minutes, or you can extract the P. viridis
in a seperate pan and add the two teas befor the evaporation/
concentration phase. You could add a small amount (a few ml)
of lemon or lime juice to slightly acidify the water, but it
is not really needed, and too much acidity make it hard on the
stomach. After the steeping, strain out the plant materials
and put liquid in open pan near boiling point to alllow water to evaporate.
Aim to get 1 ml of brew from every gram of plant meterial, ie if
you brew with 100 g B.c. and 100 g P.v. you evaporate the brew down
to yield around 200 ml, 60-100 ml of ayahuasca per person, which can be
divided over 2 or three doses to be taken with 40-120 minutes
in between. Traditionally smoke from tobacco (mapacho, cigar)
or Paolo Santo, sage or cedar are blown over the brew while it is
brewing, to awaken the spirits of the plants and to bless and protect
the sacred medicine.


&gt; Should I just forget about banisteriopsis and go for peganum harmala or
&gt; something similar instead? any info is appreciated, but especially on what
&gt; I can do with 100g of caapi and 50g of viridis. thanx
&gt;


It's better not to use harmala, it works as RIMA but the THH is
missing from it or only there in trace amounts, and harmala has
some stuff in it that is more toxic and potentially risky, and
little is known about long term effects of harmala use, while
ayahuasca/caapi has been used safely for thousands of years.


Using 50 grams of Pv with 100 g caapi would still make a good brew for
2 people or two nights for one person, but 100/100 wil give the
brew more visionary qualities. It is the caapi vine though that is
responsible for the healing qualities of ayahuasca and for the long
term benefits, and it seems that THH plays a crucial role in this.


Ayahuasca is in the first place a holistic medicine for body,
mind, emotions, heart, soul and spirit, it is the medicine of love,
harmony self-rememberance and self-confidence. It is a medicine
of harmony between male and female, it is a medicine of the Great
Mystery, those that have really studied it say that the mystery
and power of ayahuasca is greater that human imagination can grasp.
Cheers

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[Toltec]

A while back we sent out a call for good ayahuasca recipes. We asked our chefs to be as specific as possible when detailing measurements and source plants. The following recipes are some of the best examples of...Ayahuasca Brews We Have Known And Loved.



Recipe One:


Here is the methodology that works for me in preparing the Good Medicine. Source plants and quantities (These are given in one dose measurements. Please adjust accordingly):


Mimosa hostilis from the Amazonian region via North American Entheogen supply. If pure root bark is used then 8 grams finely ground to a powder or stringy fiber is sufficient. If some of the root is mixed with the bark, then adjust the dosage to 12 grams. The magic is more concentrated in the root bark although the whole root does contain some.


Syrian rue. 3 grams finely powdered via grinder or mortar and pestle. The seeds are difficult to grind and much effort is needed. The finer the powder the better.


Distilled water treated with the juice of a lemon and 250 mg of crushed ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) is sufficient to produce an acidic aqueous solution.


Place the bark and seed powder in a small stainless steel pot and bring to a low boil (barely 100 degrees C) over an open fire (with careful attention and prayer) or a hot stove (also with careful attention and prayer). Stir the brew frequently and allow to boil for about 20 minutes. More prepared acidic water should be added as needed to keep the liquid from completely boiling off. Then decant the brew and strain through a fine wire mesh. Coffee filters are too fine, but cheesecloth, panty hose, or 'permanent coffee filters' work well. Press the mush and try to squeeze out as much liquid as possible. This can be accomplished with cheesecloth or an old fashioned rag, like a cloth diaper.


Boil the mush again in the prepared water and repeat the process for a total of three times. Combine the liquids and slowly simmer to a reasonable, drinkable amount. Observe the usual dietary precautions before drinking the brew. Some prefer to sip slowly, others to down the beverage as quickly as possible. The slow sipping probably reduces nausea although it prolongs the onset and lessens the intensity.


Results:


With pure root bark:


The onset was rapid. Within 15 minutes closed eye visuals were pronounced, a feeling of losing physical boundaries was also present. There were no physical sensations other than where the skin may be there was air. The objects in the room danced with life and seemed to rush forward into the air. A definite 3-D effect. Within another five minutes the room was no longer recognizable. Reading was impossible. Geometries were overwhelming and seemed to wash over me with an orgasmic type pleasure. Traveling. It is traveling. New indescribable places were unfolding before my eyes. Everything was vibrant and alive. There was utter peace. An ever shifting play of color never ceased to make the experience boring. Voices can be heard. Music can be heard. Yet there isn't anyone here to speak or play music. A voice asks"Would you like to go deeper?" It was a female voice. Reassuring. As I would think about going deeper the colors would flow over me and bring me to new spaces - each one more bizarre than before. Impossible objects from the past were floating in space. Things like huge HP calculators, Vertibird helicopter toys. Scenes of childhood were evident. No entities. All in all a 5 hour experience.


On 12 grams (3 grams rue) of M.H. root and root bark:


Prepared as above. Same colorful trip but lighter. Took a full hour to come on. Relaxed feeling probably from the harmala was first noticeable. Slight nausea (not really nausea, but a strange feeling in the stomach, I almost thought about throwing up, but it quickly passed). Enjoyable, psychedelic, but without the 'journey' of the root bark. Also much more short lived.



Recipe Two:


Here's the best recipe we've ever heard of from an alien. Fast. Simple. Very, VERY effective.


[ Erowid Comment: Please note that active alkaloid levels in plant material can vary significantly from one specimen to another. Significant concern has been expressed that with high alkaloid plant material, recipe #2 could be a very high and potentially dangerous dose. ]


Ingredients:


20g M. hostilis
3g. P. harmala
RealLemon(tm) lemon juice






Take 2g of ground P. Harmala (no preparation needed) orally.
Grind 20g M. hostilis in coffee grinder to a fine, purplish powder.
Create mixture of 30-40% RealLemon(tm) and water. Stir in M. Hostilis and bring to a simmer for 15 minutes. Stir frequently.
Filter purple liquid through colander or mesh strainer.
Add remaining plant matter to a new lemon juice & water mix and stir for another 15 minutes.
Take remaining 1g P. harmala.
Drain off liquid into cup (should fill it up about halfway) and drink quickly.
Wait 15-20 minutes. Retch.
Retch some more.
Try to regain your composure and balance after dry-heaving.
Lie back and listen to some didgeridoo music.
Begin to think you're dying, being devoured to the clean-picked bone by a school of rainbow piranhas, submerged in the hell-realms suffering brutal tortures and repeated dismemberment at the teeth and claws of the blood-dripping minions of Lord Yama and various ferocious Mezoamerican deities like Tezcatlipoca simultaneously.
Experience a complete and utter ontological meltdown at the face of imminent death. Recognize if the 'huasca kills you now you'll be caught in one of the hell-bardos for a minor eternity due to your accumulated bad karma. Keep repeating your name to remind yourself that you have a body. Shower repeatedly to wash away the overwhelming forces of evil fighting over your soul ã in between rounds of projectile diarrhea. Marvel at just how full of shit you are.
Panic, but try to remind yourself that time is your ally, even though each moment seems like an eternity of suffering. Remember that"this too shall pass." Believe this with the greatest skepticism.
Continue this way for several hours, wondering all along if you'll actually be able to come out of the hell-worlds intact.
Wake up the following morning, swearing off psychedelics for at least a very long while, still fearful of inadvertently re-invoking this terrifying state of consciousness.
Go to bed the following night and reexperience this realm of consciousness during the hypnagogic state and nearly die of fright that you'll wind up in an ontological cul-de-sac someplace, dribbling down your chin until your time is up.
Eat LOTS of red meat, drink alcohol, lots of Tamasic foods. Try to get grounded. The quotidian banality of three dimensions can be a sane human's best friend.
Finally, several weeks later, look back on the experience without feeling a lingering sense of terror.
Begin to regain some perspective. Consider trying 'la purga' again under the supervision of a very experienced shaman able to help those less experienced to finally conquer these treacherous realms (as must ultimately be done). One must go into the breach again to be fully cured.
Maintain a VERY HEALTHY respect for the Vine of the Soul, recognizing that it can kill, regardless of what they say about tryptamine neurotoxicity. The tryptamines won't kill you; the heart-stoppage from unmitigated terror can, though.

[Toltec]

&gt; I have noticed that several recipes suggest not filtering the brew too =
&gt; finely. If working with B. caapi and p.v., what type of filter would be =
&gt; too fine, do you think?=20


Too fine filters tend to clog up due to fine sediments and waxes
in the brew. (Coffee) Filter paper usually is too fine.


&gt; What is good in your opinion, to use as a filter?


Cotton/linnen fabric (t-shirt, cheesecloth) works good, as
does silk screening mesh. Cottonwool + mesh sieve should
also work.


A good tip is not to buy shredded or powdered plants,
get whole vine section of caapi and whole leaves
of the admixture plant(s). Pre-soak the caapi
overnight before breaking it up, it might be a good
idea to combine pre-soaking with bringing the
water to boil with whole vine sections, which will
help to prevent developement of bacteria and/or molds.
Someone wrote me recently about a problem with mold forming
on caapi that was not completely covered by water
during a 2 day pre-soak.
Also don't crumble the leaves of the admixture plants too
fine, to reduce the amount of super-fine sediments.


Also, filter the ayahuasca while it is hot, when it has cooled
down the waxes in it become more solid, which clogs filters
sooner.
cheers

[Toltec]

&gt;Can anyone give me some help with how to combine and use Banisteriopsis
&gt;Caapi and Psychotria Viridis? I just need to know how to prepare it in what
&gt;amounts and the like.
&gt;


If you want to make ayahuasca, it's best to use whole pieces
of Banisteriopsis caapi vine, (cielo/yellow or red is best,
white caapi is harder to work with, and IMHO less suited for
beginners).


As a kind of standard start-off usually 30 g caapi and 30g chacruna (P.v.)
are advised. If you have enough plant material, I would make a brew
with 50 g caapi and 50 g chacruna, even if the extraction turns out a bit
ineffective or the plants are not so strong, you should get a reasonable brew,
and you don't have to drink it all if it turns out to be strong, but save
some for a next time.


Do your brewing with respect and attention,
create a harmonious environment while you are working
with the plants, if you feel comfortable with it, you can
sing or whistle to the (spirits of) the plants you're working
with, in this way, you tune yourself to the medicine,
and tune the medicine to yourself and your purposes/intentions.


Tips for brewing with caapi: if you can always get whole
pieces of caapi vine, pre-shredded or powdered seems to
decrease in power faster, and when it's finely powdered
you'll get a lot of sediment in your brew that is difficult
to filter out, it makes filtering material clog, and
can cause more than necessary nausea. Let caapi pieces
soak in water for 24-48 hours, after that they are
easy to break up and tear to thin strips. You can use
the soaking water in the brew, if you'ld check it with
blacklight, you'd see it has become highly fluorescent
just from soaking pieces of vine in it.


Caapi also hardly needs any acidifying of the water,
one or 2 ml of lemon or lime juice on 100 ml water
is plenty actually, you don't want a brew that, after
concentration tastes sour. A really good caapi brew
can actually taste quite sweet next to the bitterness,
but to brew ayahuasca in such a way that it tastes
sweet (honey quality ayahuasca) takes a couple of
years of ayahuasca apprenticeship and plenty brewing
experience, and it probably also has to do with the
icaros one sings and an element of prayer (Some will
discard the last two as magical thinking and/or
superstition).


Traditionally, the usual procedure is to boil everything together,
or start with a vessel with caapi and water, and add
the chacruna for the last hour or so, before the plant material is removed and
the brew is concentrated by evaporating off much of the water.
I find that the concentration and taste of the brew is good if 1 cc of
resulting brew contains the extract of 1 g of ayahuasca vine.


My working recipe is slightly different every time,
but basically 30-60 g Banisteriopsis caapi per person,
Diplopterys cabrerana (chagropanga/chaliponga) 15-18 g p/p,
or Psychotria viridis (chacruna) 25-40 g p/p, or a combination
of these two leaf admixtures.


Usually I also add some plants that are not specifically psycho-
active, like pao d'arco/lapacho, una de gato/cat's claw and
chuchuashi, sometimes one or two locally growing herbs like
for instance some fresh chamomille flowers.


Sometimes some huayuasa leaves and/or some mate de coca,
and usually a small strip of ceremonial mapacho tobacco
leaf, ca 1-2 square cm p/p (I estimate 50-100 mg of plant material
per person. Be very very carefull, nicotine is a deadly poison
and tobacco, when used at all, should be used with great respect
and care). Blowing smoke from a good cigar, or from a pipe with
ceremonial tobacco over the surface of the brew for protection
and to connect it with the spirit of the tobacco, which is
thought to 'awaken' and 'feed' the spirits of the other plants,
and to help in opening and closing of rituals, is very traditional,
and an idea to consider when you are going to work with these
traditional plants.


Besides the plants you need clean water (no chlorine etc., if tap
water is chlorinated get bottled spring water or distilled water),
and a lemon or lime (or some lemon or lime juice in a bottle),
some pans, a sieve, some cheesecloth or other fabric (T-shirt).
Best is not to use aluminum pans, stainless steel or enamelled pans
are recommended.


The brewing directions I describe are based on traditional slow
extraction methods. Put the caapi liana stem sections in a pan
and add enough water to soak them in. Leave this overnight.
The stems soak up water and become more like fresh stems again.
They get soft, so you can twist and tear the stems into thin strips.
Put these strips of vine in the pan with the water you soaked it
in, and add water untill it's level with the caapi strips.
Add a few drops of lemon or lime juice, a few ml is enough to
slightly acidify the water for improved extraction of the alkaloids.
Bring to a boil in closed pan, adjust temperature/fire so that you
can keep it slightly below the boiling point for 4-8 hours.
If needed add some water. Let it steep and cool overnight.
Strain the next morning and put the resulting liquid on low heat
to evaporate off water. Crumble the Psychotria viridis leaves
and put them in a pan with ca 500 ml water and a few milliliter
of lemon and/or lime juice and bring to boil. Lower heat and leave
steeping below boiling point for one hour. Strain and add
resulting tea to the evaporating caapi brew. Put the plant
materials (B. caapi and Psychotria v.) together in a pan with
circa 1 l water and a few ml of lemon/lime juice, bring to boil
and steep for another 1 or 2 hours, add after straining to
evaporating brew. Allow to evaporate back to 100-200 ml of
ayahuasca drink. Go through the whole process with attention and
a meditative, prayerful attitude, like you are cooking a meal for
a loved one.


Traditionally ayahuasca is almost always taken only at night,
after sunset. The amount one drinks is usually divided into
several (2,3 or 4) rounds, one drinks a cup/glass of ayahuasca
with 30-120 minutes in between. Each glass is slammed down
quickly, don't sip it or taste it too long in your mouth before
swallowing, the taste is very intense and to some people even
very awful. You'll taste the aftertaste strong enough, and it might
be a good idea to make something more neutral tasting as a chaser,
for instance tea with some ginger, mint and/or chamomille,
which will also help keeping nausea to a minimum.


Trust the medicine, folow the medicine through you body
after you swallowed it, you may ask the medicine to give
you visions, but it is up to the medicine in combination with
your own neurochemistry at that time, what you will experience.
One thing that seems pretty contant is, that when the medicine
starts to work, that the feeling of hunger from the longer
or shorter fast before the ceremony vanishes, and that all
senses seem to become more acute and sensitive.
By singing and playing rhythms with simple instruments like
drum, rattle or mouthharp/mouthbow, you can learn to
direct your experience to some extent. According to the
traditional ayahuasceros one can 'channel' melodies, rhythms
and songs (icaros) that are in some way an expression of
the spirit/character of the medicine plants, and transmit
their healing, protective and vision-giving qualities
in an audible form, sung, whistled or 'blow-whistled',
mixed with the vital energy of the breath.


The psychedelic aspect of ayahuasca is merely one aspect
of the diamond of ayahuasca, which is truly a holistic medicine.Edited by: Toltec

[MescalinePirate]

Awesome input, Toltec.

[mopsie]

Recipes


There are no fixed ayahuasca recipes. Dosages depend on the individual plant's growing conditions an on th sensitivity of the user. Every shaman has his own recipes, which are varied depending on the desired effect. Traditionally other plants are added such as tobacco, datura or brugmansia, to give a certain direction to the trip. It is not advised to add such plants unless you are an experienced ayahuasca user. However a cannabis joint halfway through the trip is highly recommended.





average dosages per person:


Banisteriopsis caapi - 30 grams& nbsp;& nbsp;& nbsp;& nbsp;& nbsp;


Psychotria viridis - 30 grams


Peganum harmala - 3 grams


Mimosa hostilis - 8 grams


1. A pure water source such as distilled of filtered water is important because excess minerals may inhibit the effectiveness of the brew. Half a litre (or a bit more) of water per portion is regularly used.


2. The pH of the water should be between 4 and 5. This helps the alkoids become more soluble. This can be done by adding ascorbic acid in the form of ground up Vitamin C pills or lemon juice.


3. It is very important to grind or pulverize the plant material as fine as you can and to boil the plant materials for a couple hours.


4. Strain and save both the wate and the plant material.


5. Put the plant material back into new pH adjusted water and repeat the whole process.


6. Continue this process until the new water doesn't change color anymore.


7. Then mix all of your boilings and boil it down to a more drinkable quantity.





For those people with less patience, two other recipes are given . One recipe is for Peganum harmala and the other for Mimosa hostilis:


Peganum harmala


Let 3 gram Peganum harmala seeds steep for 15 minuts in boiling water on a small fire. Drink the extract after sifting. The seeds can also be eaten without any preparation. Take the drink or the seeds on an empty stomach 15 minutes before eating the DMT-containing plant.





Mimosa hostilil


Let 8 grams Mimosa hostilis steep for 15 minutes in boiling water on a smale fire. Add some lemon or lime juice. Drink it 15 minutes after igestion of the Peganum hamala or Banisteriopsis caapi.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Thanks for this post..

[kritikal]

Thanks marsofold. I had a post asking if moclobemide is a suitable anti-depressant MAOI for DMT and never got a reply.SWIM takes em so it aint no problem gettin em.

[acolon_5]

I have tried (twice) to make and consume the ayhusca. I will NEVER try it again with the MHRB. This was the MOST FOUL stuff I have ever tasted, and I have tasted plenty of really bad stuff (quinine/ bineeta etc). I never did achieve a state of bliss. I believe that the harmila was the only thing I felt (besides throwing up all night)





beware the underdose!!!!!


NEVER AGAIn with the mhrb....How does the P. Virdis or D. Cabernerra taste...it is as foul as MMRB????


I would however also be interested in hearing a recipe that works. I know that there are some really easy ones out there. I have a couple in my files and am curious to try em. Edited by: acolon_5