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Old 30-03-2009, 21:32
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phentermine 30 mg caps,

i just got these from my doctor there made for weight loss he said they might help give me energy as well as lose a couple of pounds...what do you know about these? good and bad? i thought they were called adipex


phentermine hcl 30mg caps (sandoz)
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Old 05-09-2009, 18:45
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

Damn, there really needs to be more info about this drug around the place, especially considering so many of the once loved weight loss drugs are becoming few and far between. I guess there isn't because it's the plain and simple truth that you can't really get high on it. I mean you can, but anyone that has had speed knows that it doesn't really compare. The best I can describe it is that it's kinda like what codiene is to morphine, similar, but hardly the same. That doesn't mean I don't see potential for the drug, and before I would like to proclaim myself as some sort of expert, I would need to hear a lot about what other people have to say about the drug. This is where you people need to come in and fill in the gaps.
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Old 05-09-2009, 20:16
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

They're a mild stimulant that were given by docs and diet clinics for help with weight loss. They're also called Ionamine and Duramine, but Sparkles believes they are the s/r versions.
If you've never used them before and have no tolerance to stimulants don't take them after midday as they will stop you from sleeping. They'll also curb your appetite and give you more energy, start cleaning the car and you'll finish it, paying attention to every detail. Sparkles always forgot to drink plenty of water with them, they can make your mouth dry and your lips sore. SWIY might experience mild palpitations, but apparently that a common side effect. They're not that strong, compared to Adderall, but should still be respected, don't knock em back cos they're not strong. Doctors will usually only prescribe them for a max of twelve weeks. But that was in the UK, not many doctors give them now.
They will give you a kick, if you've never taken anything like this before, and you'll definitely lose weight.
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Old 05-09-2009, 20:34
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

I'm curious now, how would these compare to ephedrine?
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Old 07-09-2009, 23:24
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

SWIM's opinion is that phentermine is not as good as amphetamines or ephedrine/pseudo. The effect for him was very similar to Concerta. What SWIM didn't like about it is the mental state it put him in. SWIM felt 'robotic' or 'zombie like'. His ability to consciously think and have internal dialogue was greatly suppressed, and SWIM felt as if he were on auto-pilot (or 'zoned-out). He was still able to function (work, drive, talk) normally, however not being able to think made him feel rather uncomfortable.

As a weight loss aid, they work well. In addition to speeding up the metabolism, phentermine would allow SWIY to exercise for long periods of time due to increased energy and being zoned out (you'd be less likely to stop due to boredom/wanting to do something else).

SWIM would not recommend it for recreational use, as it keeps him from enjoying anything.

Also, it lasts for a long time, around 8-12 hours in SWIM's experience.
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:42
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

Definitely better than ephedrine, ephedrine doesn't release any dopamine (the one responsible for euphoria) but phentermine does, along with all the other things ephedrine does release. Hope this answers your question.

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Everyone should note that drugs effect everybody differently and has heard of many people stating that the drug definitely offers something in the way of a recreational drug, but not nearly as mind blowing as your Ritalins, dex and meth amphetamines, but has the plus of not being as addictive as these stronger stimulants too. Definitely something to consider...

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SWIM's opinion is that phentermine is not as good as amphetamines or ephedrine/pseudo. The effect for him was very similar to Concerta. What SWIM didn't like about it is the mental state it put him in. SWIM felt 'robotic' or 'zombie like'. His ability to consciously think and have internal dialogue was greatly suppressed, and SWIM felt as if he were on auto-pilot (or 'zoned-out). He was still able to function (work, drive, talk) normally, however not being able to think made him feel rather uncomfortable.

As a weight loss aid, they work well. In addition to speeding up the metabolism, phentermine would allow SWIY to exercise for long periods of time due to increased energy and being zoned out (you'd be less likely to stop due to boredom/wanting to do something else).

SWIM would not recommend it for recreational use, as it keeps him from enjoying anything.

Also, it lasts for a long time, around 8-12 hours in SWIM's experience.

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Old 30-11-2009, 08:49
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

it's just basically a light amphetamine... definitely kicks the shit out of ephedrine or sudafed any day though... idk what above poster is talking about
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Old 07-03-2010, 08:51
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

Hi! Swim just wanted to let swiy know that Phentermine is fairly decent in swim's experience towards losing weight. Since swim started taking them, first at 15mg, then 30mg, then 37.5mg, swim has lost 20lbs. This is without any exercising whatsoever. Swim has been ill with the flu and other viruses since before Christmas, so swim hasn't really had the gumption to get up and pull her WiiFit off of the dusty shelf it's been sitting on.

Swim noticed that the first week of each dose increase, she had the most energy. One night, swim was on her hands and knees scrubbing the kitchen floor tiles with a sponge, and another day spent four hours cleaning the bathroom, getting every nook and cranny. After the first week, swim noticed that the energy level it gave her dropped slightly, and by the fourth week, noticed that the Phentermine didn't do much at all, besides suppress swim's appetite.

Swim enjoys the medication, but doesn't enjoy the fact that her medical insurance does not cover any part of the prescription. Swim is lucky enough that her mom covers the cost of the medicine every month, and swim is on her third month. Swim is curious to see how much weight she looses once she starts exercising. Oh, and swim took ephedra back when it was in Hydroxycut (in 2000 swim thinks), and lost about 30lbs in a month, but swim was also going to the gym daily.

In swim's humble opinion, ephedra is better over time than Phentermine is, simply because it seems that swim builds a tolerance to Phentermine very quickly, however even after a month of taking the Hydroxycut with ephedra, she still got the sustained burst of energy. Swim thinks that Phentermine at 15 and 30mg is called Fastin, and Phentermine at 37.5mg is called Adipex.

Swim wishes swiy the best of luck with the weight loss!
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Old 10-05-2010, 13:01
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

ok stupid ? can it be smoked of slammed
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Old 18-05-2010, 17:09
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

SWIM used to take phentermine, Adipex brand, 37.5mg back before the weight loss bubble got all fuckeded up by new regulations and most of the sources were raided/closed up. Back then, phen 37.5mg was the shit and turned SWIM into the Energizer Bunneh! SWIM used to get so much done in a day and managed to keep her figure in the process!

SWIM found that phen was better than mini-t's and other ephedrine products she has tried in the past and would say it's comparable to ritalin/concerta, not sure about Adderall as SWIM hasn't tried that and SWIM would like you to note that SWIM prefers phen to ritalin although ritalin is about 100x easier to acquire than phen so...

In general, you get won't much by way of traditional euphoria however the pleasant little go-go-go feeling (as Andy Warhol used to put it ;p) really rocked especially when SWIM was traveling a lot and going to a lot of conventions and festivals and stuff... again, she just got so much done in a day!

SWIM would often take her phen in half... 1/2 in the am on an empty stomach then the other half no later than 3pm although again, if SWIM was out and about, taking the 2nd half after 3pm simply insured SWIM would not be falling asleep at the stroke of midnight!

This of course is the major con of phen though: sleeplessness. Sometimes SWIM would counter the phen with cannabis or sleep aids but sometimes these things didn't work and SWIM would just be up for a very long time.

The other cons of phentermine are dry mouth as misssparkles pointed out, some people get chronic headaches even if they are well hydrated, and eventually (much to the chagrin of regular phen users), people plateau and will have to continually up doses to feel the full effects and weight loss in particular is only markedly pronounced and ultra swift for n00bs. Once that first time is over (ie. you miraculously drop 30lbs. in a month) it won't really come back and if you've come to your plateau on phen, gained weight back, and want to try to get back on phen it will be MUCH harder to glean the appetite suppressive effects but the energy/stimulant effects will at least remain mostly the same.

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It is also worth noting that these days, it appears there is a definite difference between phen from a few years back to currently available phentermine as it has apparently suffered from a lot of sub-mar manufacturing and the available various doses/brands seem to lack potency in comparison to when there were still certain manufacturers still producing the drug.

Now, SWIM hasn't been on phen in a while (1+ year) but she is planning to acquire more soon... She did recently get her hands on some Duromine, which is the time release version of phen available in Australia and sadly, SWIM experienced, for the first time ever, severe shortness of breath and after 3 days use, she hadn't been able to yawn or breathe deep at all. It took a full 24 hours after discontinuing for SWIM's breathing to return to normal.

SWIM finds this not only disappointing but very odd since in all the time she previously used phentermine this was never an issue (and back then she smoked like a chimney) but this is a totally different brand and it's SR, which is what SWIM thinks is the issue as SWIM has never really done well on SR drugs.

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PS: Sorry dunno if about smoke/slam...

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Old 17-09-2011, 07:38
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

swim got prescribed phentermine for weight loss. still in her first few weeks.

i can't tell what phentermine does on its own because i've been taking adderall for a few years and have just been taking both at the same time.

the other night I was up all night bc i took phen at a late time of the day.

swim does crush adderall and snort that for huge help on being organized and cleaning house and produce a few art pieces.

swim only has 2 1/2 tablets of adderall and was considering snorting them. haven't read any horrible negatives and haven't read anything to convince her that it's worth snorting.

so tonight swim is going to crush half of her 37.5 mg tablet (not SR) and give it a go. swim snorted bits of adderall throughout her day and has snorted other meds that didn't do anything, but stung. the only concern is having a runny and drippy nose for hours. that's really annoying. will try to post the experience later tonight with the details.
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Old 17-09-2011, 08:59
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

Great topic, i have an interesting story to tell. I recently tried to purchase phentermine 37.5 on an online pharmacy website. I paid a high amount for this, thinking it was legitimate and coming from the USA. I received the package and it was so dodgey sealed an an envelope which came from India. I was hesitant to try it, but i did as im desperate to lose the 6.5 kilos i gained since moving to the UK.

I dont know what it actually was, but it made me tired and clearly did not make me lose my appetite or feel energetic so i stopped straight away not knowing what was inside.

Does anyone know if phentermine is available through a doctor within the uk? I know majority wont supply me with this as im clearly not obese but im on the higher end of my weight scale and not happy about it.

I also remember when i was younger i used to party alot and i used to get really good speed and take a bit on a friday night, it was so good it would kill my appetite for at least 3 days and i would not crave junk food like i do now.

I really need to get something to kill my appetite, if i cant get duromine or phentermine does anyone know if i can get something over the counter in the pharmacy that would do this?
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Old 21-09-2011, 06:39
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

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so tonight swim is going to crush half of her 37.5 mg tablet (not SR) and give it a go. swim snorted bits of adderall throughout her day and has snorted other meds that didn't do anything, but stung. the only concern is having a runny and drippy nose for hours. that's really annoying. will try to post the experience later tonight with the details.
Im suprised they gave you phentermine if you are on adderall. I seriously doubt you will even notice the phentermine. You will have to let us know if you do experience weight loss from it.

SWIM is prescribed Ritalin 20 mg three times a day and has taken phentermine in the distant past for weight loss. She doesnt remember any speedy effect from it but it did kill her appetite....completely. She didnt really lose any weight on it, though. Her husband, however, bounced around like he was on crack and lost 20 plus lbs in a month on phentermine. Lucky.

SWIM takes Ritalin and at the dose she is at (60mg a day in divided doses) she doesnt feel speedy or anything. It helps her ADHD symptoms though.

She is fairly stimulant tolerant having past methamphetamine and cocaine issues.

A word of warning....them phentermine capsules...if you open them up and snort them....they burn. ALOT. One of SWIMs friends had some of these and suggested they try it. So they did. Several years ago. SWIM felt like someone had crammed a red hot poker up her nose, and had an instant headache which stuck around for the better part of an hour. She literally had tears running down her face. And there was NO speedy effect at all that she could tell. Only a great deal of pain. Much more painful than methamphetamine.
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Old 22-09-2011, 18:44
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

can someone please tell me if you can get phentermine in the uk of a doctor? swim ordered some but it came from india and was fake. does anyone know if the online pharmacies have any phentermine that is real?
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

My pet rabbit had swollowed 5 x 40mg slow release phentermine caps and was verry happy and energetic within about an hour and a half.

four hours had gone by and rabbit plateaued for approx.four and a half hours in wich he also ingested 100mg of viagra. pet rabbit waited for viagra to take effect approx. 3/4 hour.

Pet rabbit had extreme hard core interactions for more than 7 hours with only drink breaks in between.

My pet rabbit finds that this substance works well on male and female rabbits when used on an irregular basis every two weeks or longer.
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Old 15-05-2012, 18:03
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

Phentermine does work some days for weightloss, but also somedays one could eat everything in site. For A nice speed effect takes about four to 6 sometimes 9 pills at once. A possible very tingly head effect plus very very very productive and probably some shinanigans in there as well. Snorting- really dont know. Slamming don't do it definitely not the desired affects one could be looking for.
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

my girlfriend has the 30mg caps for weight loss. I wish she never was prescribed the damned things. I always forget how damned shitty they make me feel. I'll admit that taking the beads out of a few of them and swallowing them without the gel caps provides a nice euphoria and an extreme jump in libido (witch is good if you're with your girl but is a curse if you're by yourself).. Let me tell you though, that bit of euphoria you experience is not worth the drawn out dysphoric hell of a comedown that you will go through.
I always forget just how bad it feels which is why I'm going through it right now. I have a prescription of clonazepam which could help tame this beast but I would have to eat a lot as my tolerance is extremely high to benzos. so my choices are to feel like shit all night then deal with depression and the effects of severe insomnia all day tomorrow, or go through my script of clonazepam and suffer a different kind of hell which can be fatal for the rest of the month (bz withdrawal) and the second just isn't an option.
so I'm going to ask for you guys to help me with some advice.
I have clonazepam, beer, gabapentin, another phentermine, baclofen, diphenhydramine, propranolol, and I am out of weed.
Can someone suggest a combo or method so I can stop feeling like this and get some sleep? I feel absolutely horrible and I've been dope sick while coming down off e before
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:15
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

Quickly - I was on 37.5 of Phentermine and then it stopped working after the first 15 pounds or so. So, then I was taking 37.5 and then half more mid-day. Not much difference. This is DEF. a short-term drug and weight loss alternative. I highly recommend Adderall. Moreover, it also helps other afflictions, should you have them.
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Old 04-10-2013, 21:37
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

I guess everyone is different, because I absolutely LOVE the instant release form of phentermine called Suprenza. I take two of the 15mg ones, they dissolve in your mouth. They make me feel awesome, motivated, feel like cleaning, exercising, doing all the little things I can't get motivated to do. No speedy feeling, no tweaking, and no comedown. When I was taking them every day I built a tolerance and they no longer worked, even at three or four. So its a once and a while thing to do. Adderall does not work like this for me, just keeps me awake tweaking
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

Will be trying phentermine ("Acxion Fentermina" 30 mg) tomorrow for the first time. I've tried sooo many stimulants and was wondering which phentermine was most similar to?

Ephedra
Pseudoephedrine
Propylhexedrine (Benzedrex)
Coca leaves
2-FA
2-FMA
4-FA
Methylone
4-MMC
Methamphetamine
4-EMC
MDMA
Ethylphenidate

From my reading, it appears that phentermine is very shaky and edgy like ephedra. Really hope that's not the case! Perhaps I'll start w/ 15 mg. to see how it affects me. My sister LOVED phen, as did my friend (with a thyroid condition) who took it briefly. They're both inexperienced with "real speed" though, so IDK.
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Re: phentermine 30 mg caps,

This is abut my My friend named "I" who also goes by nicknames "me" "myself"

Anyway I haven't yet taken Adderral before or any other stimulants besides coffee or tobacco., but I do have a bit of experience with Phentermine. Let me tell you this... It definitely does give euphoria. In fact that stuff gave me the best feeling I've ever had in my life. I'm so positive and motivated when I'm on it. I can concentrate and focus and my mind is so clear. I have 2 full bottles of them but I rarely I REPEAT RARELY take this CRAP... The side effects are TERRIBLE. The insomnia is bad... But the heart palpitations that it gives you will scare the BEH-JESUS out of you. I never was a heavy user of this stuff... Maybe 1 half a pill every 6 months... But I swear the hear side-effects linger forever.

I really would love to take these pills because I'm back in college, but I just feat the psychical consequences. I'm currently looking on how I can get prescribed aderrall.

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