Help me pick my first REAL drug

[Micutzul]

A very easy next step from marijuana is KETAMINE . It's quite short acting , it lasts an hour or so ( depending on the dose and how you take it ) . It has very few negative sideeffects , it's quite manageable in terms of intensity , and of course it's fun . Unlike E or speed , it is waaaay less toxic for your body and waaaay less addictive . And it has a smoother comedown than E or speed and virtually no hangover .

So if you want to just take it up a notch , try ketamine ( it's quite cheap and shouldn't be too hard to obtain ) .

I recommend you forget about LSD for now . Unless you have at least some experience with intense psychedelics , chances are you are not going to enjoy it .

And whatever you decide to do , don't do it alone . Have a good friend watch you and take care of you , someone whom you trust . Also , do it in a safe environment , and make sure you're in a good and happy mood . Be well rested and hydrated and keep drinking water during the experience and afterwards . This will ensure you'll have a very enjoyable experience . Have fun and take care

[PsychicTraveler]

I also recommend LSD. It truly was the most profound influence in SWIM's emotional, psychological, and philosophical development. Oh, he's still an ignorant wreck, but at least he's aware of it.

[mf400]

My "friend's" next drug after weed was DXM. That was weird. Then came LSD. I wouldnt suggest Shrooms over LSD as a "safer" psychadelic, they are slightly different and equally potent. Shrooms are more of a mind-fuck. MDMA would be a good choice, if you can get Molly from a guy you trust. E is a russian roulette when it comes to getting what you want. Edited by: mf400

[Nature Boy]

DXM? I'd never touch that stuff. That shit's definitely on my "don't touch" list.

[club222]

Not many people I know like the feelings of DXM. I love it. DXM was my
2nd drug after weed. As for the adderall, I'm like Muirner, it just
helps calm me down. I've been prescribed for about 6 years because of
my ADD and it just helps bring me to "baseline" I guess you could say.
My friends who actually get something out of it though seem to have fun
on it. Although they just say it makes them really talkative, hyper,
and they have about a million thoughts per second. Out of your list,
I'd try Ecstasy first. I haven't met one person that doesn't love it.
Also, in my opinion, definitely do shrooms before you do acid.
I've never done another drug compared to acid in intensity. Plus the
length of the trip may begin to scare you after awhile if it's your
first time. Whatever you decide on, have fun and be safe.

[Muirner]

Nature- I dont think that alcohol is a harder drugs then mushrooms. Because when your taking mushrooms your are posining your body to go through the euphoria of tripping. Alcohol you are just feeling the effects of alcohol.

club222- I've seen the same thing, i've seen people who can take it and they have a blast. But for you and i, we just "baseline" as the dr.'s will call it. I have not taken this drug for the past 2 years and honestly there have been few times where i have thought about going back on it.

Adderol and such are just controled doses of speed, so it is almost like blowing a line when you are sniffing a pill


Muirner

[pokeymcsmot420]

i definatly reccomend some kind of an opiate for your first real drug, and here is why.


adderal-effects vary too much person to person. just because your not prescribed to adderal doesnt mean you might not have add, in which case like people said it will do nothing. Best case scenario you will feel what i like to call "extra sober". This is what name ive decided to give the feeling of speeders. you will be hyper talkative perhaps even feel invincible. not much euphoria, no sleep, horrible come down, huge addiction rate.


lsd- too strong for a second drug, too hard to find. if you have never tripped before i do not reccomend lsd at all. it will last longer and kick your ass more than anyother hallucinagen. in my oppinion your likely to have a bad experience and be scared to try new drugs in the future.


ectasy-you could get anything in pill form searching for E. i dont know that being said, it sounds kind of dangerous for a second drug to try. not to mention you'll never really know what substanceexactly you experienced, but than again u mite not care. (had to be some drug)


shrooms- prolly my second choice. cant really say anything bad about shrooms, go for em if its what you think you'd prefer. i prolly woulndt think a psychedelic for a second drug to try.


opiates-well ur problem with this is there mostly pharmeceutical. other than that they just create a general warmno worriescomforatable feeling. of course addiction can be ahuge problem with opiates, but you'll be well aware when your headin down that path.


benzos- (xanax, ativan, klonopin, etc) benzo mite be a good choice for a second drug. just makes you really relaxed and stress free, they tend to make people drowsy. but also pharmaceutical.


dxm-shit drug of cough syrup chuggers, well thats a very close minded biased oppinion, but how i see things. the best ive ever heard about it was someone say "its almost as good as mushrooms but not" while they were on it. but than again, never done it so shouldnt really put an oppinion i suppose


idk hope it helpd

[lolomgwtfbbq]

I agree that you should try opiates.



DXM would also be a good choice but drinking cough syrup is really
stupid so at least get cough gels if you can't get the powder.

[Nature Boy]

Originally Posted by Muirner

Nature-* I dont think that alcohol is a harder drugs then mushrooms.* Because when your taking mushrooms your are posining your body to go through the euphoria of tripping.* Alcohol you are just feeling the effects of alcohol.


Muirner

The effects of shrooms seem way more natural to me, even than booze. But I guess you're right in that if I wasn't used to them they could seem a little weird.

Speaking of, did anyone ever take shrooms and not come up, only to be woken out of sleep hours later completely tripping? Happened to me last night.

[motorhead]

lol nature boy, i did, pretty trippy stuff. Kinda like, what the......????!!!


Not to derail the thread or anything, but alcohol is a very nasty drug. It harms many organs, most notably the liver of course.Kills brain cells and all that. One can die from alcohol withdrawl, whereas you cannot from heroin withdrawl. Of course all this never stopped me from taking copious amounts of it throughout my lifetime lol, nor stopped governments from making a killing on it.


Ah so many choices for a second drug. Theyve all been suggested so far so ill just say my second drug was lsd.

[Nadia Snow]

Originally Posted by Bytemaster

Amphetamine...

[happatai]

i started with weed, then i did vicodin for a while, then i just jumped
into LSD. it was great. I'd reccomend a half eighth of shrooms as your
2nd drug, maybe get stoned before consuming. Then again, 1000 mg of
vicodin is always fun.

[Pinkavvy]

Originally Posted by happatai

i started with weed, then i did vicodin for a while, then i just jumped
into LSD. it was great. I'd reccomend a half eighth of shrooms as your
2nd drug, maybe get stoned before consuming. Then again, 1000 mg of
vicodin is always fun.

1000mg of vicodin? I think you are mistaken. 5/500 does not mean 500mg of vicodin it means 5mg of vicodin and 500mg of acetominiphin. 1000mg of vicodin will kill most people. the acetiminiphin alone will stop your liver.

but 10mg of vicodin ... (or preferably, narco or larocet)

[darksideofcuba]

~~~1000mgs!!! are you trying to get people to kill themselves!!!~~~

i just had to second the comment about the 1000mgs. more than 25 can OD some people.

swims first drug was ecstacy. then vicodin. then percocet. then xanax.
then soma. then dramamine. the percocet and soma where swims favorites
followed closely by xanax and vicodin. dont try E or dramamine for a
second drug if you dont have to. swim would definantly take 15mgs of
percocet(oxycodone), a 2mg of xanax(alprozolam) aka a bar or 2 somas as
a second drug. if youre desperate generic dramamine is cheap and legal.
a lot of opiates mix well with the mj according to swims friends. it
just depends on what kind of experience you want. what kind of stuff do
you want to experience?

Where in australia do u live?

[mattp]

Just want to comment on a few things. As for your next drug to try... it really depends on what you are looking for.


xtc: pro: good feeling for a few hours. happy euphoric, etc. con:
e-tarded for 2 days afterward due to decreased seratonin uptake.


mushrooms: pro: 6 hours. take maybe 1.75 grams. shouldn't be too much of a headfuck with that. cons: easier to trip badly on


LSD: pro: less headfuck than mushrooms, more visual. (i know people
argue high doses of mushrooms are more visual than L, but swim has
found that he'd take a 10strip again before he took 12g dry again.)
con: lasts almost 12 hrs.


2c-i: pro: fun, light psychadelic. con: jaw clenching (not too bad)

Originally Posted by Muirner

Nature- I dont think that alcohol is a
harder drugs then mushrooms. Because when your taking mushrooms
your are posining your body to go through the euphoria of
tripping. Alcohol you are just feeling the effects of alcohol.



Muirner

poisoning your body? where's the evidence of that? alcohol is poisoning
your body also. NAD converted ethanol to a toxic chemical which causes
a hangover. Where's the difference there?



My recomendation would be a small dose of 2c-i, a light dose of mushrooms, or perhaps even some nitrous oxide.

its a short feel-good experience that as long as you don't get carried
away is relatively safe. read up on www.erowid.org , check your street
dealers and see what they have to offer and at what price. good luck.



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[Nature Boy]

If you do decide to take shrooms, don't take any alcohol with them because it could ruin the buzz completely and take away from the positives of the effect. I took some on Friday but made the mistake to wash them back with a few beers and they barely worked at all.

[uqlfy]

Yeah fungus and beer is ill advised.

[killmeswift]

gor for ectasy youll love love youll love everything

don't start doing heroin.

[sterling77]

I would say ecstacy- the reasons have been stated over and over in this thred so I won't go into it. However I will say one thing, I would say not to worry too much about harmful contaminants in X. A couple of scare reports of findings of broken glass, etc. in X have been proven false and the chances of getting something harmful have been found to be pretty low. Not saying there's not a chance, but I think the most you have to worry about is getting a low amount of mdma.

[Nature Boy]

The natural progression tends to be:

Alcohol
Cannabis
Magic Mushrooms
Speed
Ecstasy
Cocaine
LSD

This is usually based around availability. Personally, I would choose this way:

Cannabis
Alcohol
Magic Mushrooms
Speed
Cocaine
Ecstasy
LSD

That's where I draw the line. I don't do meth, crack, Special K or anything like that.

[IvoryQueen]

I wouldnt reccomend lsd, it's too trippy and would prob freak u out. I'd probably suggest ecstacy, but make sure u just take half a pill at 1st. In my opinion, a whole one would just be a bit too intense. Although, speed is quite a good started drug too, although I'm not actually a fan of it!

[Nicaine]

SWIM's never done ecstasy, but he's done MDA. Close enough. He says go for the XTC...

[turfshark_40]

I would say mushrooms for your second drug, thats what I did for my second and it was great. In my opinion as long as you have half a brain and don't take a shitload your first time you should never have to worry about a bad trip on mushrooms.