Help me pick my first REAL drug

[Scaredoll]

Hi everyone, i'm new here...



I have been smoking weed for over 7 years (i'm 23 years old) and i really want to step it up just one level.



I have had a caffeine trip once (think lots of coffee and lots of
caffeine pills) which was kind of interesting but hurt my stomach like
a bitch afterwards.



I also once tryed some shrooms, but it was a VERY small amount of
scraps that some junkie left at my friends house... i felt nothing
after eating it.



So, i come to you lot for advice... what would you recommend to me? what is the next level after weed?



I did some research, and i think i have narrowed it down to either...



1. Ecstasy

2. LSD

3. Mushrooms



So what shall it be? Nothing to crazy please, im scared enough as it is
as i don't know how i will react to them. I'm aware that everyone is
different, and they can do different things to some people, but i am
ready to take that risk.

[Bytemaster]

Amphetamin...

[grecian]

go for ecstasy. u wont regret it

[Scaredoll]

Ok, good choices...



A few issues first though...

I Don't know JACK about Amphetamines, i'm doing a bit of research now though since you brang it up.



Speed is an Amphetamine right? isnt that a bit "GUNG-HO" for my first
drug though? What else is an Ampetamine... nothing perscription based
though, it has to be off the street.



Ecstasy seems popular, but like they say, you never know what your gunna get. I would most likley take the risk though



Remember people, don't just recommend YOUR preffered drug, there has to
be some logic behind it, otherwise i will have people telling me to
shoot heroin to my eyelids or some shit

[Scaredoll]

Shit, i forgot...



I have another quick question...



If i have an Ecstasy pill, or a sheet of LSD or anything like that, and
i cut/chop that in half, and only take half... will that lesson the
effects of the drug? or just lesson the time i spend high? or both?

[Scaredoll]

Ok, i am REALLY leaning towards d-amphetamine (Adderal), it seems perfect and alot more safer than Ecstasy.



Can i get Adderal in the streets? In fact, can i even get it where i live (Australia)?



what other d-amphetamines are the same as Adderal?



Thanks for your help guys, this is great.

[Muirner]

Ok, so i'll answer your "quick question" First of all, when you get LSD it will be in a "Tab" not a Sheet. Sheets of acid have (i think) 100 or so hits on them. Dont ask me because i've never delt with LSD.

As for the cutting in half. I'm sure this would work with an E pill, but with LSD as far as i know the amount that it takes to get the desired result is so small that taking the whole tab is the way to do it. As for E sure i think it would work, but again i'm just speculating.

Adderal and E have to be two different highs. I used to be on adderol for ADHD, and all it did (and still does) for me is calm me down. People locally will crush it and blow it, when i do that i just go to sleep. Adderal can be obtained on the streets i'm sure, and the price will vary with your region. Just try to find one of your friends or someone u know who has ADD/ADHD and ask them to sell you some pills.

I believe that Concerta is also a d-amphetamine. The only difference is, the capsil is a time released one, so you would have to crush it to get the time release off.

Muirner

[Scaredoll]

Thanks for the reply Muirner, i have researched for hours and im really excited about getting this.



It seems like it does not do anything for you (d-amphetamine) but other
stories i have read talk about it like its the 2nd coming of christ.



Different strokes for different folks i guess, guess i will pop 20mg or 40mg and see what happens.

[SLICE]

if you've never done "uppers" before then i'd recommend trying speed before trying E. I know people who have tried E as their first drug and it can be pretty overwhelming if yr not prepared.If your gonna try acid then trying shrooms first is also a good idea

[lolomgwtfbbq]

I wouldn't reccomend LSD as your first drug. Also, with E, keep in mind
that there's a rather large chance you won't end up getting MDMA.

[radiometer]

I know this is a short answer but out of those three hoices I would choose
MDMA for a first trip. Unless you are of a very intellectual bent, then one
of the two others you listed may be more rewarding.

[Muirner]

You may get some mdma though, the chance is always present. The thing you never really can anticipate is what else is in the E, hell their might be speed in the E so you'd be doing both at once. E is a drug u dont know what's in it really, you can check out those sites online that will tell u what they have found in a pill (idk them off hand i dont use them). But know that you can also get a pill that has been crushed, something added and then reformed/pressed.

Slice- when you say try speed. Do u mean meth? I think i'm just confused in this strange kinda stoned state i'm in.

Also for the prasing of the drug like it's the 2nd comming. Even when i sold my pills to people it wasnt that great. They said u get hyper and such for a couple of hours.

Also how do u plan on injesting the d-amphetamine?


Muirner

[Pinkavvy]

aderall is icky. is you are going to do speed, do meth. however I wouldn't recomend either as your next step from weed. (as speed usually causes a downward spiral.)

If you want a speedy effect, go for ecstacy. it's a euphoric amphetimine.

else, go for something like shrooms. shrooms will take your life to another level, as will lsd.

2c-i is a very simple "toy" physchodelic that is great for a firt trip. so that's another option.

or perhaps try opiates... start small like 10mg of hydrocodone or 10mg of ocycodone. (most popular brand name is ocy-contin.) however, just like speed, opiates can cause a downward spiral.

in My experience I have seen most people who get into speed go down a bad way, whereas only a few I've seen get into opiates do.

[antigenesis]

Well, shrooms are fun and really safe.

LSD blotter is good cause you know your gonna get LSD but, at least for me, it is really hard to find.

Meth fucks up lives, don't mess with that shit.

Opiates are nice as long as your careful not to get addicted.

I think Ecstacy could be a good choice if you know what your getting (http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php)



Have fun but watch yourself man...

[sands of time]

Yea, opiates sound like what you should try next. Hydrocodon (vicodin) is pretty relaxing and they are easy to obtain. 15-20 milligrams is a good starting dose. Don't overdo them though cause they can easily cause addiction.

If you want a good party drug, adderal is good for starters, but these things can keep you up for 8-9 hours. Some people chop them up and snort them to break the time release. This will give you an idea of what to expect with E, but E is much more euphoric and speedy. I wouldn't get into meth. That is a powerful and addicting drug which has a number of unpleasent side effects.

Lsd is hard to find so you might have to wait along time for that.

[JuStBLaZe414]

ecstasy!!! im telling you just like the majority of the people here, do E, but make sure your w/ people who've done it, and whom you like, have fun,.... i always do

[Hyperreal]

Ecstasy. Very few people will be dissatisfied with the effects of MDMA.

[Sitbcknchill]

Originally Posted by pinkavvy

aderall is icky. is you are going to do speed, do meth. however I wouldn't recomend either as your next step from weed. (as speed usually causes a downward spiral.)


in My experience I have seen most people who get into speed go down a bad way, whereas only a few I've seen get into opiates do.

Pinkavvy is right, methamphetamine will drag you down to the depths of hell in a handbasket my friend, and trust me it's a hard hole to crawl out of...but any drug can really do that to you, the most important thing is self control which is a tad bit easier with opiates than with any form of speed....but remember with all of these other drugs, it's not like weed where you can smoke yourself stupid and not worry about anything. With these drugs self control plays the important role of keeping your ass alive and well...it's not hard to OD off of any of this shit so be carefull, dont overdo it and do a little research about the drugs you want to test out...I'm not going to give you a suggestion on which drug you should start next cause I don't think it's right, but choose the one that is most appealing to you....but be carefull Edited by: sitbcknchill

[Scaredoll]

Thanks everyone for the reply. My older sister said something to me one day that i won't forget...



"Stay the fuck away from Meth"



So i will agree with most of you.



I was set on Adderal, but most of you seem to be talking it down now,
as if its not even worth the effort, and pumping Ecstasy back up.



Alot of the higher posters are saying opiates now, so i will spend the
day researching that and then i will get back to you with my thoughts.



Also, regarding Ecstasy... I'm a tad affraid i might not be able to
handle it? as i'm told at the start of the trip you think your going to
die...



Going from feeling lazy and relaxed with weed to feeling like im going
to die is not something i want to dive into right away lol



I want an upper though thats for sure.

[Chaote]

I would say mushrooms because they are natural but mreo powerful and different than grass, in my opinion your graduate to stronger drugs and LSD is not something you take after only smoking grass, though ecstacy doesnt really fit in that system becuae the amounts vary SO much though you could have an awesome roll yoo could also freak out becuase some cook thought it would be funny to dose you with something real bad. So I would say mushrooms, or have you tried grass brownies/cookies/whatever that can be an intense trip

[Mezza]

Get a couple close friends, or better yet your girl if you've got one, and try some quality MDMA. That's a great way to open your eyes to psychedelics. ~2g of good shrooms will be great also...

Also, regarding Ecstasy... I'm a tad affraid i might not be able to handle it? as i'm told at the start of the trip you think your going to die...

That's absurd!!

[Muirner]

Adderol is not so much icky, it is just a matter of choice. Now (pretend they didnt put me to sleep) pretend i could get addies at any time, or 1 pop of E, from what i've heard i'd go with the E just because it's a great time. But also know that when you are doing E you always have to maintain about a pint of water an hour because your body tempature goes up and you sweat thus causing your body to dehydrate. But with some water you will be set.

As far as adderol you will get hyper, and stay awake. If u do a regular dose i dont think u will be up for 8-9 hours, but know that any amphetmine will give u sleeplessness, and also a suppressed appitite for at least a day. You might not have a problem with the sleeplessness, or the food because all drugs interact with everyone different.

I would say give Mushies a try if you could put your hands on them, hell 1/2 an eighth (1.75g's) or close to, will give u a good first trip.. It wont be like "OMG WHAT'S HAPPNING" because things are not completly freeking out. You are in control but you do a lot of thinking, you can control what your thinking of, or if your watching a movie thenyour not thinking at all your just absorbed into the movie. All and all a good time. I've never tried LSD but i'll have to say that i have to try to find some... it sounds like a good time.


Muirner

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[tom]

Ecstacy!!!

Preferably do it with a mate who's done it before, if not, do it with 2 or 3 real close mates, buy 2 pills each (trust me, you'll want them), eat a WHOLE one, don't piss around with halves at first. When you start to feel a litlle 'down', you'll know when, eat another half, and do the same again later.

I promise that you will have the time of your life, just remember not to spin-out when you 'come up'. It can be a bit strange if you've never expereinced it before, the best way I can describe it is as a moment of extreme clarity. Once you hit that point, around an hour after eating the pill, just do what feels good.

For reassurance, the area where I live has a very high number of gurners (people who take pills) and I only know of ONE person that has ever not had a good time.

[Nature Boy]

It depends on the type of person you are but I would go for LSD. When taken in the right dose, it can be a life-altering experience for the better.

Ecstacy is all well and good while it lasts, but I'm always left with a miserable feeling when it wears off. After acid, I feel invigorated and refreshed.

I wouldn't consider mushrooms to be "hard" drugs if that's what you meant by your first "real" drug. Realistically alcohol is a much harder drug.

[uqlfy]

Well just to put in my two cents, if you can get it go for acid.
I think contrary to what most people seem to think if you buy E from
someone reputable (your pot guy) you most often get eithier MDMA or
MDA. MDA because alot of chemists dont take the extra step in synthesis.

LSD come in sheets which are usually 100 doses. 1 dose is
usually about 150to300 micrograms. If you cut one in half it should cut
the intensity of trip in but not duration. This is assumeing that
whoever dipped the sheet dipped it evenly. However I dont find it
likely that your gonna get any acid. If you do buy bulk and keep it in
your fridge.

That being said if you cant get acid go for E. I
mean even if the pill you get isnt E the most common substitute in
those pills is Meth.