Purity - Can swim get ur opinion?

[Lewwy]

Hey guys so swim had recently bought an old vynl from the mid 70's and once swim got home he realized that an old blotter was in the vynl case.

swim wanted to know if you guys think it could be real lol
Sadly swim cant try it to find out due to not much time alone

[OsCarwild]

Well they could be real, however blotters need to be stored properly to last a long time, so even if they are real they would not work anymore. So there's a chance they are real, but if they are then they are long past expired.

[EyesOfTheWorld]

couldn't hurt to eat it, might at least get a body buzz

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by EyesOfTheWorld

couldn't hurt to eat it, might at least get a body buzz

this. have some fun and try it out. If it goes well then there will be one hell of a story behind the trip.

[Lewwy]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

this. have some fun and try it out. If it goes well then there will be one hell of a story behind the trip.

haha yea true dat

btw to the other guy from wut i know all it takes to save LSD is to keep it in a dark dry place and from wut i can tell the case is prety dark and dry lol

yea SWIM will try it this weekend lol

btw guys acid trips arent like shroom trips right?
i mean u can at least function while being on LSD right?

never acutaly had it lol

[FrogEye]

depends what you mean by function hehe. You can do things like put music on, dance etc but you cant exactly hold a good conversation or try to organize things. Like SWIM once started sweeping up some leaves in the backyard on acid because it was a little messy, but SWIM would just constantly get distracted and then decide that he liked the leaves where they were hehe. But its a lot of fun, if the acid is really from the 70's then it could be strong, but then again, it would have deteriated a lot from being so old.. SWIM suggests a sitter if you havnt tried it before just in case.

[Lewwy]

Originally Posted by FrogEye

depends what you mean by function hehe. You can do things like put music on, dance etc but you cant exactly hold a good conversation or try to organize things. Like SWIM once started sweeping up some leaves in the backyard on acid because it was a little messy, but SWIM would just constantly get distracted and then decide that he liked the leaves where they were hehe. But its a lot of fun, if the acid is really from the 70's then it could be strong, but then again, it would have deteriated a lot from being so old.. SWIM suggests a sitter if you havnt tried it before just in case.

oh cool swim says tx for the sugestions
by function swim means like talk to people and wut not cus swim knows that shroom trip sometimes u just go to another world depending on how much u have haha

[purplehaze]

I don't think it would be a good idea to ingest a strange substance that came from an item like at a yard sale. It may be toxic, or a drug that is not lsd. Not a safe decision IMO.

[OsCarwild]

Actually it takes more than a dark dry place. Most people like to put blotters in an airtight container and then put them in the fridge or freezer. Light, heat, and moisture can all cause it to ruin. The heat part is probably the main thing SWIY would need to worry about in this situation. Especially if it is 30 years old

[Readux]

Even if it was really LSD, swim really doubts that it will do anything to SWIY if taken. Maybe get a blacklight and check if it at least glows.

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[Lewwy]

Originally Posted by Readux

Even if it was really LSD, swim really doubts that it will do anything to SWIY if taken. Maybe get a blacklight and check if it at least glows.

haha yea good idea swim will try that he just gota get a black light lol

also do you guys seriosly think if it isnt LSD it could have something else on it?

Lewwy added 0 Minutes and 38 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by OsCarwild

Actually it takes more than a dark dry place. Most people like to put blotters in an airtight container and then put them in the fridge or freezer. Light, heat, and moisture can all cause it to ruin. The heat part is probably the main thing SWIY would need to worry about in this situation. Especially if it is 30 years old

i did forget about those factors
swim will just have to wait and see haha

[FrogEye]

I wasnt around during the 70's so i dont know what the dangers where with LSD blotters not being LSD. I think that if its from the 70s then theres a good chance it is LSD, if it isnt LSD there is a good chance its DOB, which isnt so bad. I think drugs were a lot safer from the 70's than they are now, but i cant back this up and i invite someone to chime in here.

[Lewwy]

Originally Posted by FrogEye

I wasnt around during the 70's so i dont know what the dangers where with LSD blotters not being LSD. I think that if its from the 70s then theres a good chance it is LSD, if it isnt LSD there is a good chance its DOB, which isnt so bad. I think drugs were a lot safer from the 70's than they are now, but i cant back this up and i invite someone to chime in here.

haha well swim will just have to dive into w/e is coming to him!

swim will let u guys know wut happens

[Songcycle67]

At this point I'd like to be the usual pessimistic scumbag and point out that this has many dangers. SWIY doesn't know when the supposed LSD was put inside of the vinyl. Lots of people buy old records from record shops these days and then sell them at yard sales when they get bored with it or don't listen anymore. So the LSD could be as new as the day before SWIY picked it up, no matter how old the vinyl itself is. If this is the case, or if it was put in sometime during the 90's, then RC's are a huge threat.

If we assume that it was stored in the mid-70's, around the time of the album's release, as SWIY suggests, then not only are they going to be dealing with some seriously degraded LSD (over time conditions like this would begin to deteriorate the LSD very slowly, but surely). Anyone who is a vinyl nut will tell you how easily vinyls are invaded by moisture and air (especially in places where they're normally kept--basements, cellars, etc.); so it would be a good choice for short-term storage, maybe even lasting a few years, but long term: highly unlikely.


So SWIY is going to chow down on some old ass blotter paper that's been sitting inside a vinyl jacket for at least a few years, where conditions for mold and fungii are tenfold if stored in a traditional place, and ingest an unknown chemical of unknown strength.


Also read up on some of the chemical testing that was done on acid from the middle 70's. The average dose for most blotters is barely above 100ug, at best. Late 70's? Forget about it. By then most blotters were down to 60, 40...basically the same as the doses people saw regularly in the 80's and early 90's.

Most people think about the 70's as LSD heaven. Maybe for a brief moment when Scully and co. were working their magic on Orange Sunshine, but by '72 the streets were eaten up with low doses and "bad batches." Owsley was jailed in '69 and stayed there until late '71. By then the real magic was all over and it became the era where psychedelia itself was bought out and exploited (the mid-70's)--the drugs themselves were much the same. Acid dealers, unlike in the relatively free climate of the mid-late 1960's (LSD was still legal until 1967) acid dealers were facing long jail sentences and they started selling it as a product more than as a tool. Thus it became, like all illegal drugs, less potent and more expensive.

Sorry about the brief rant, I felt it was merited with all the talk of 70's LSD, but yeah, generally this is a bad idea in SWIM's opinion.

[Lewwy]

Originally Posted by Songcycle67

At this point I'd like to be the usual pessimistic scumbag and point out that this has many dangers. SWIY doesn't know when the supposed LSD was put inside of the vinyl. Lots of people buy old records from record shops these days and then sell them at yard sales when they get bored with it or don't listen anymore. So the LSD could be as new as the day before SWIY picked it up, no matter how old the vinyl itself is. If this is the case, or if it was put in sometime during the 90's, then RC's are a huge threat.

If we assume that it was stored in the mid-70's, around the time of the album's release, as SWIY suggests, then not only are they going to be dealing with some seriously degraded LSD (over time conditions like this would begin to deteriorate the LSD very slowly, but surely). Anyone who is a vinyl nut will tell you how easily vinyls are invaded by moisture and air (especially in places where they're normally kept--basements, cellars, etc.); so it would be a good choice for short-term storage, maybe even lasting a few years, but long term: highly unlikely.


So SWIY is going to chow down on some old ass blotter paper that's been sitting inside a vinyl jacket for at least a few years, where conditions for mold and fungii are tenfold if stored in a traditional place, and ingest an unknown chemical of unknown strength.


Also read up on some of the chemical testing that was done on acid from the middle 70's. The average dose for most blotters is barely above 100ug, at best. Late 70's? Forget about it. By then most blotters were down to 60, 40...basically the same as the doses people saw regularly in the 80's and early 90's.

Most people think about the 70's as LSD heaven. Maybe for a brief moment when Scully and co. were working their magic on Orange Sunshine, but by '72 the streets were eaten up with low doses and "bad batches." Owsley was jailed in '69 and stayed there until late '71. By then the real magic was all over and it became the era where psychedelia itself was bought out and exploited (the mid-70's)--the drugs themselves were much the same. Acid dealers, unlike in the relatively free climate of the mid-late 1960's (LSD was still legal until 1967) acid dealers were facing long jail sentences and they started selling it as a product more than as a tool. Thus it became, like all illegal drugs, less potent and more expensive.

Sorry about the brief rant, I felt it was merited with all the talk of 70's LSD, but yeah, generally this is a bad idea in SWIM's opinion.

gah u are a downer haha but swim does see your logic.
also swim wasnt saying that it was from the 70's to say that it would be amazing he was only saying that to give more information haha

a bit after my last post swim had thought about the things you mentiond and swim belives it would be wiser to do testing befor even trying

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