Drug info - Trippiest Smoking blend??

[theshiftyshaman]

I have been doing a lot of reaserch and i would like to try and find the trippiest smoking blend(spice, smoke etc..)

any suggestions?

[nibble]

I'm sure you wouldn't want to know any such thing but SWIY may want to know ..hint, hint

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good at correcting me in my mistakes!! ;)

[theshiftyshaman]

Originally Posted by nibble

I'm sure you wouldn't want to know any such thing but SWIY may want to know ..hint, hint

of course i wouldnt. but some bad person in the world might and we cant deprive them of the information

[FunkyMunky]

Spice Diamond. Wonderful is what swim was told.

[honourableone]

SWIM recently tried a blend called "Magic Silver", and he found this to give a far more trippy experience than he ever expected to get from a cannaboid (without smoking insanely excessive amounts anyway). He is taking a break now, but he has bought a supply of this blend ready for when that break ends.

I wrote out a couple of SWIM's experience reports if you are interested - http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81194

I haven't heard of anyone else trying this, so there is only SWIM's experience to go on, but he highly reccomends it.

If SWIY can't find that, then SWIM would agree that the best trippy alternative would be Spice Diamond or one of the Spice Synergy blends (Arctic Synergy or Tropical Synergy).

[hterblanche]

SWIM has to agree that Magic Silver is the trippiest blend he's ever smoked. SWIM could feel the effects before finishing his first bowl, and the first thought that crossed his mind when he lay back on his couch feeling the full effects was "it almost feels like there is some dried shrooms in this"

Can't wait to try the Magic Gold

[honourableone]

At last, someone other than SWIM has tried it! Please post an experience report about it in the thread I mentioned earlier, and if you try Magic gold I would be very interested in hearing about that too (SWIM hasn't seen any of this on sale).

Welcome to the forum.

[TG Stone]

Hello,

SWIM has also just tried Magic Silver. SWIM would agree with the other members that this is a very trippy blend. SWIM went to the web address on the package and found mushrooms in the graphics on the website. But there are no mushrooms listed in the ingredients.
SWIM found Pukatea is a tree in NZ and SWIM assumes they are using the bark.

[top]Pukatea

Māori used the bark of the tall pukatea (Laurelia novae-zelandiae tree as a painkiller, boiling the inner layer to make a decoction. Pulped inner bark was also held in the mouth to ease toothache. Pukatea bark contains pukateine, which has a chemical structure similar to morphine. It was first isolated in 1910 by Bernard Aston, the first chemist at the Department of Agriculture.


SWIM may start posting on this forum since all of SWIMs other forums are closed or no longer allow this subject matter.


SWIM found Magic Silver very potent and trippy. SWIM will be purchasing again.

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good info

[Stu Bai]

Spice Gold or Diamond can produce a prolonged, lethargic head trip in high doses. Apart from that Smoke would be the obvious choice thanks to the inclusion of Salvinorum A. That particular blend can be a real mindfuck [as well as a bodyfuck, I would not reccomend the product as it is highly suspect and appears to have appaling cigarette like effects on the respiratory system].

[theshiftyshaman]

for the spice diamond what would you call a high dose?in g or mg

[Joe-(5-HTP)]

Originally Posted by theshiftyshaman

for the spice diamond what would you call a high dose?in g or mg

With no tolerance, I would say 0.6g is a high dose.

[theshiftyshaman]

Originally Posted by Joe-(5-HTP)

With no tolerance, I would say 0.6g is a high dose.

thanks smwim is going to try some tomorrow

[honourableone]

That is a very high dose with absolutely zero tolerance, I know you wanted something trippy, but take it slow to make sure your comfortable. Have some, give it time to kick in, have more.

[Stu Bai]

Swim finds the having more routine to not work so well with Spice where tolerance builds up very fast. For the record swim would reccomend .4 as opposed to .6.

Then again, many other swimmers I have been in the pool with have smoked entire bowls, sat their for ten minuets, and just said ''I feel kinda funny''.

Spice is a tricky one. It is a lot more subjective than traditional Cannabis. Also, dont expect classic psychedelic style trips. The trips tend to occur entirely in ones mind and not translate visually to the outside world, save for a soft focus on objects.

Swim would define the spice 'trip' as extreme lethargy coupled with endless thought loops. Swim's spice 'trips' tend to involve him closing his eyes and letting his mind take him on some rollercoaster ride as if it were a fiber optic cable flooding at high speed with all these great ideas.

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very good description

[honourableone]

Originally Posted by Stu Bai

Then again, many other swimmers I have been in the pool with have smoked entire bowls, sat their for ten minuets, and just said ''I feel kinda funny''.

SWIM once smoked some Spice Diamond, and had that feeling, and slowly ended up smoking over 2 grams. He didn't know if there was a loss of potency or just some weird tolerance issue, but although he got stoned he thought "Shouldn't I be passed out now or something?" (do NOT just smoke 2 grams, when SWIM did he took it very slowly and had experienced Spice Diamond before). He had smoked a small amount once previously and got really uncomfortably high (though consecutive times were much more enjoyable), so he wasn't quite sure what happened. This was back when being stoned used to give SWIM a bizarre unpleasant feeling where he felt like his memory was being reset every few seconds (thankfully that ended some time ago). Tolerance definitely has a huge effect on Spice though.

If anyone were to try the blend I mentioned earlier, "Magic Silver", I would be very interested in hearing your experience. I hate to sound like I'm advertising it or something, but SWIM couldn't believe how much it impressed him, and would like to know if others had concordant experiences (it is definitely very trippy).

[junkie.iguana]

(regarding Spice Diamond)

Originally Posted by Stu Bai

The trips tend to occur entirely in ones mind and not translate visually to the outside world, save for a soft focus on objects.

My Iguana seconds the opinion. Although sometimes the larger doses tend to produce effects of dizziness/drowsiness. Not in a bad way, though.
My Iguana also says that .6g is too much to start with.

[Sgt Insomnia]

In swims opinion a bong is the only way to go with these smoking blends, a joint is extremely wasteful and not needed. Spice arctic synergy/tropical is by far the trippiest of smoking blends, swim experiences great visuals when sitting in a dark room with just the TV on, and when smoked during the day and walking around the streets, swim has a treadmill effect, whereby he feels like he is not moving from the spot, even though he is walking (this is very funny ). Swim has tried smoking Spice in a joint and found the effects to be much less, even though he used the same amount of spice or even more so than he would in a bong.

[Stu Bai]

Swim had experiences that sound very like yours. In the old days when starting out, he smoked a single green rizla of Gold and thought he was going to get a heart attack, after ten minuets of reminding himself ''I am here, my feet are on the ground, the door is behind me. Im in a house. I am here, my feet are on the ground...'' and so on. Memory reset cant even begin to describe it :P.

[theshiftyshaman]

thanks for the advise on spice diamond

swim took about .9 all together this weekend and had a wondeful time.
he had some definite moderate visuals wich were very pleasent.
he found the only bad thing was that he felt completely spaced out the next day and had to relax the whole day.
so it wasnt really bad at all
thanks
but swim would like to know what are the trips you get off smoke like?

[baron samedi]

Not meaning to come over as a boring SWIM, but which is the least trippy of smoking blends/incense? SWIM is no longer a fan of hallucinogenic drugs, but having said that he used to smoke cannabis (mostly hash) for about 10 years, literally all day every day. Cannabis was more a form of self-medication for SWIM, helping his depression, anxiety/stress while giving him very little paranoia in the right setting. It gave him a calmative effect, which is what he'd be looking for in a smoking blend rather than trippiness. In other words, which blends will get him stoned without being too trippy?

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just start another thread :)

[nibble]

Originally Posted by baron samedi

Not meaning to come over as a boring SWIM, but which is the least trippy of smoking blends/incense? SWIM is no longer a fan of hallucinogenic drugs, but having said that he used to smoke cannabis (mostly hash) for about 10 years, literally all day every day. Cannabis was more a form of self-medication for SWIM, helping his depression, anxiety/stress while giving him very little paranoia in the right setting. It gave him a calmative effect, which is what he'd be looking for in a smoking blend rather than trippiness. In other words, which blends will get him stoned without being too trippy?

SWIM would say the original Spices, Gold or Diamond. They have now been rebranded as Spice Gold Spirit and Diamond Spirit but are essentially the same thing.

[Stu Bai]

Swim will have to look into this magic silver. Swim never paid much attention to non spice or non Smoke blends but Swim is a big fan of cannabinoid trips [they strike the right balance as Swim is terrified of full blown psychedelic trips].

Thoughts to follow...

[honourableone]

I'm still not overly convinced of the reliability of the ingredients lists on these blends, to me it just seems like a cover up. They reel off a list of rare plants that could be consided mildly psychoactive, when in actual fact the blend contains very few of the plants listed, and most effects are from the cannabinoids. No evidence at all for this (though the ingredients list for Spice is definitely false), but I consider this possibility to be quite likely.

[baron samedi]

So Spice doesn't contain the herbs and herbal extracts it claimed at all? SWIM can even remember adetailed card that one used to recieve when purchasing it. SWIM always thought there was something unnatural about Spice, but put it down to the many different extracts being used.
SWIM now wonders whether there are actually any smokable ethnos or extracts which really work when smoked, even though many of them have long histories of recreational use (wild dagga, kanna, blue lotus etc). By "work" SWIM means to give a similar effect to cannabis.

[msimm]

An extract by definition isn't natural, it's presumably extracted from something that is but the solvents used certainly arent (hows that separation?) and you probably will never find many extracts growing in nature (heh). And of course many natural plants and animals are remarkably toxic, even carcinogenic. We process the hell out of most of the things we user or consume and the differences between natural and synthetic might not be useful as you might think.