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Old 19-03-2009, 17:54
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Smile A quick primer on getting the absolute most goodies from SWIY's poppy pods.

This is a quick version of a longer piece SWIM will be writing in the future. In this economy, it is important to get the most for your money, even (especially?) in the world of ethnobotanicals and drugs. SWIM considers poppy pods to be an ethnobotanical but the government disagrees, At least here in America, people have been arrested, prosecuted and sentenced for dried poppy pods. 99.99999% of the time it is the suppliers that get busted, but very occasionally a purchaser will as well, although usually the purchaser is let go upon forfieting the poppies, provided they can prove the flowers were intended for crafts. In the spirit of this, SWIY should always keep a flower arrangement or wreath or two that prominently feature poppy pods easily visible in the house, and keep SWIYs crinding/teamaking equipment squeaky clean and residue free when not in use, and keep it far away from the pods, which should be housed in their original USPS/UPS packaging and stacked next to a couple of sprigs of lavender and other cheap, arrangeable flowers. Now, it sounds like SWIM is telling SWIY to spend more money than SWIY needs to. Not so. Think about it............what's cheaper, a couple of clearance rack flower arrangement and a few sprigs of lavender, or a lawyer, a fine and (possibly but very unlikely) jail?

OK, we are all still on the same page. Savings tip #2: For the love of God, don't use auction sites. SWIY will get ripped off 50% of the time or more. There are many, many independent pod retailers/wholesalers that do not charge anywhere near what evillay sellers do, and their product is usually much better. Have SWIYs pods shipped via USPS Priority Mail. There are many reasons for this, mainly, Express mail is too expensive except in emergency situations, but regular "first class" mail will sometimes lose SWIyour package completely. At least w/Priority SWIY can get a delivery confirmation number.

Upon arrival of the pods, SWIY should forget about tea entirely as slurry is the way to go in terms of bang for ones buck. To make a slurry, use slightly less pods than SWIY usually uses for tea, as in the slurry the entire pod and all its psychoactives are consumed, not so with tea. Lets say SWIY usually uses 9 medium pods in a tea. SWIY should start with 6 for slurry, he/she can always add more later. When preparing the pods, cut off the crowns and stubs/stems with a knife, save them somewhere discreet, they can be lifesavers later. Crush the pods with SWIYs hands and place in a blender or a strong coffee grinder, and grind until almost the consistency of kratom powder. This will be impossible with most household gadgets, hence why SWIM said "almost the consistency of kratom powder". SWIY should then take a generic cimetidine, not a Tagamet (we're economizing, remember), washed down with good olf gfj, and wait 1/2 hour. Then, SWIY should take the powdered pods and mix them in with his beverage of choice. Any beverage is fine, but its best to avoid carbonated unless SWIY wants to spit up his slurry. In the "economy" method, SWIM uses tap water. Stir well until all the pod grinds are well mixed into the drink, then drink it, with a glass of plain water to chase it, to get rid of bits stuck in teeth and so forth. If SWIY is not feeling full effects within an hour and a half, it is ok to redose, again, start small and work up.

Do not drink SWIyour slurry every day if possible. SWIM knows its tempting, but addiction, impacted feces, tolerance and the loss of the original magic of pod slurry lie that way. SWIM notices another advantage of slurry over tea, the experience is longer as SWIY must slowly digest all the plant matter over time.

When the box of pods is coming to an end, reorder (if SWIY intends to continue his/her hobby), if not, start to taper if possible. Stop using the pods to get high and merely use enough for wd reief and pain relief if SWIY needs it. Once the box is gone, this is where the crowns, stubs and stems come in. The crowns are the most psychoactive of the three but SWIY should go for the stubs (the little knob below the pod on the stem) first, and SWIY will soon see why.

With a little time and a quality blender, slurry can also be made from the stubs. It will be about 1/2 as potent as SWIYs usual slurry.
Procedure: Place all stubs in a large plastic bag that is sealed but not full of air. Place the bag on the ground or a sturdy workbench, and take a hammer to them, as hard as SWIY can. This is to macerate (soften) them so they can be made into grinds with the blender. Once all the stubs are smashed and ground, make the usual slurry with them, but use approximately twice the amount of powder SWIY needed with the pod material itself. If SWIY had a good sized order (100 or more pods) he/she may be able to go a few days on stub slurry alone.

Once the stubs are gone, SWIY will be left with the crowns and stems. NOW it is tea time, as no matter how much one smashes and grinds the crowns it is stil pssible to wind up with a hard slurry that could cut SWIYs mouth, esophagus etc. Nothing fatal, but wouldnt feel good, and it is basically imposssible tomake stem slurry. Chop the stems up good, mix with the crowns and make tea in the normal manner described in thousands of threads. Depending on the size of SWIYs box of pods, this could yield anywhere from one to a lot of cups of tea/dosages. Again, start small with a cup and work up as needed.

Now SWIY is left with the seeds at he bottom of the box and probably a few chunks of pod mixed in. If SWIY feels the chunks are large enough to give an effect, by all means, consume them. Sadly, the seds from dried pods are useless for tea, but don't throw them out. SWIY could use them to start his/her own garden next year and skip all the dried pod bullshit in the first place.


Final Disclaimers: Wash all pods before use, and do not use any that are moldy. Secondly, this "TEK" was written for SWIMMERS with opiate and pod experience. If SWIY is a newbie to opiates, please don't start with pods, they are too unpredictable and potentially dangerous when SWIY has no tolerance. If SWIY has never used opiates, unless he/she has a medical reason like severe chronic pain, it's best to leave them alone. Ask not for whom the monkey shrieks, he shrieks for thee.

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Old 19-03-2009, 18:09
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Re: A quick primer on getting the absolute most goodies from SWIY's poppy pods.

swim reccomends developing a potentiation regime to reduce dosage and the desire to redose, effectively reducing the addiction and tolerance risks.
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Re: A quick primer on getting the absolute most goodies from SWIY's poppy pods.

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swim reccomends developing a potentiation regime to reduce dosage and the desire to redose, effectively reducing the addiction and tolerance risks.

Yes. SWIM did mention generic cimetidine and generic white gfj in the article (reason for the generics is that the point of the article is on economizing), but it would also be good to look into low dose diphenhidramine and magnesium as potentiators, as well as many of the others listed in the sticky potentiators thread.
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Re: A quick primer on getting the absolute most goodies from SWIY's poppy pods.

Ah, so i see now. Well, swim feels that opiates with out potentiation is a waste. He isn't and addict, and has no tolerance, so if he can make 3 doses into 5, very little ill comes of it, and the ill is far weighted out by the good
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Re: A quick primer on getting the absolute most goodies from SWIY's poppy pods.

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This is a quick version of a longer piece SWIM will be writing in the future. In this economy, it is important to get the most for your money, even (especially?) in the world of ethnobotanicals and drugs. SWIM considers poppy pods to be an ethnobotanical but the government disagrees, At least here in America, people have been arrested, prosecuted and sentenced for dried poppy pods. 99.99999% of the time it is the suppliers that get busted, but very occasionally a purchaser will as well, although usually the purchaser is let go upon forfieting the poppies, provided they can prove the flowers were intended for crafts. In the spirit of this, SWIY should always keep a flower arrangement or wreath or two that prominently feature poppy pods easily visible in the house, and keep SWIYs crinding/teamaking equipment squeaky clean and residue free when not in use, and keep it far away from the pods, which should be housed in their original USPS/UPS packaging and stacked next to a couple of sprigs of lavender and other cheap, arrangeable flowers. Now, it sounds like SWIM is telling SWIY to spend more money than SWIY needs to. Not so. Think about it............what's cheaper, a couple of clearance rack flower arrangement and a few sprigs of lavender, or a lawyer, a fine and (possibly but very unlikely) jail?

OK, we are all still on the same page. Savings tip #2: For the love of God, don't use auction sites. SWIY will get ripped off 50% of the time or more. There are many, many independent pod retailers/wholesalers that do not charge anywhere near what evillay sellers do, and their product is usually much better. Have SWIYs pods shipped via USPS Priority Mail. There are many reasons for this, mainly, Express mail is too expensive except in emergency situations, but regular "first class" mail will sometimes lose SWIyour package completely. At least w/Priority SWIY can get a delivery confirmation number.

Upon arrival of the pods, SWIY should forget about tea entirely as slurry is the way to go in terms of bang for ones buck. To make a slurry, use slightly less pods than SWIY usually uses for tea, as in the slurry the entire pod and all its psychoactives are consumed, not so with tea. Lets say SWIY usually uses 9 medium pods in a tea. SWIY should start with 6 for slurry, he/she can always add more later. When preparing the pods, cut off the crowns and stubs/stems with a knife, save them somewhere discreet, they can be lifesavers later. Crush the pods with SWIYs hands and place in a blender or a strong coffee grinder, and grind until almost the consistency of kratom powder. This will be impossible with most household gadgets, hence why SWIM said "almost the consistency of kratom powder". SWIY should then take a generic cimetidine, not a Tagamet (we're economizing, remember), washed down with good olf gfj, and wait 1/2 hour. Then, SWIY should take the powdered pods and mix them in with his beverage of choice. Any beverage is fine, but its best to avoid carbonated unless SWIY wants to spit up his slurry. In the "economy" method, SWIM uses tap water. Stir well until all the pod grinds are well mixed into the drink, then drink it, with a glass of plain water to chase it, to get rid of bits stuck in teeth and so forth. If SWIY is not feeling full effects within an hour and a half, it is ok to redose, again, start small and work up.

Do not drink SWIyour slurry every day if possible. SWIM knows its tempting, but addiction, impacted feces, tolerance and the loss of the original magic of pod slurry lie that way. SWIM notices another advantage of slurry over tea, the experience is longer as SWIY must slowly digest all the plant matter over time.

When the box of pods is coming to an end, reorder (if SWIY intends to continue his/her hobby), if not, start to taper if possible. Stop using the pods to get high and merely use enough for wd reief and pain relief if SWIY needs it. Once the box is gone, this is where the crowns, stubs and stems come in. The crowns are the most psychoactive of the three but SWIY should go for the stubs (the little knob below the pod on the stem) first, and SWIY will soon see why.

With a little time and a quality blender, slurry can also be made from the stubs. It will be about 1/2 as potent as SWIYs usual slurry.
Procedure: Place all stubs in a large plastic bag that is sealed but not full of air. Place the bag on the ground or a sturdy workbench, and take a hammer to them, as hard as SWIY can. This is to macerate (soften) them so they can be made into grinds with the blender. Once all the stubs are smashed and ground, make the usual slurry with them, but use approximately twice the amount of powder SWIY needed with the pod material itself. If SWIY had a good sized order (100 or more pods) he/she may be able to go a few days on stub slurry alone.

Once the stubs are gone, SWIY will be left with the crowns and stems. NOW it is tea time, as no matter how much one smashes and grinds the crowns it is stil pssible to wind up with a hard slurry that could cut SWIYs mouth, esophagus etc. Nothing fatal, but wouldnt feel good, and it is basically imposssible tomake stem slurry. Chop the stems up good, mix with the crowns and make tea in the normal manner described in thousands of threads. Depending on the size of SWIYs box of pods, this could yield anywhere from one to a lot of cups of tea/dosages. Again, start small with a cup and work up as needed.

Now SWIY is left with the seeds at he bottom of the box and probably a few chunks of pod mixed in. If SWIY feels the chunks are large enough to give an effect, by all means, consume them. Sadly, the seds from dried pods are useless for tea, but don't throw them out. SWIY could use them to start his/her own garden next year and skip all the dried pod bullshit in the first place.


Final Disclaimers: Wash all pods before use, and do not use any that are moldy. Secondly, this "TEK" was written for SWIMMERS with opiate and pod experience. If SWIY is a newbie to opiates, please don't start with pods, they are too unpredictable and potentially dangerous when SWIY has no tolerance. If SWIY has never used opiates, unless he/she has a medical reason like severe chronic pain, it's best to leave them alone. Ask not for whom the monkey shrieks, he shrieks for thee.

Hope this was helpful. If you thought so, or if you didn't like it, LMK through rep! Thanks.
Eyes of the World,
Thanks for the idea on economizing with poppy straw. SWIM should receive the first order of 100 turkish large tomorrow. It makes sense to ingest all the matter for maximum result and SWIM will go this way for the 1st poppy tea experience. SWIM is good as far as tolerance (thanks to tramado/codeine). Actually SWIM was concerned that the whole poppy thing was a waste of time/money. After reading thread after thread on this SWIM decided to take the plunge (especially because SWIM doesn't think there will ever be an opportunity to experience Opium) Not Opiates, but the big "O" itself. Even if there was a source, it would be too expensive.
SWIM'll let you know how it goes.............
Thanks Again!!!
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