Other - is dmt in the body naturally?

[thunderbyrd]

swim has read that dmt occurs naturally in the human body. being a skeptical sort, swim wonders what proof there is for this?

[endlessnes]

yes there is plenty of proof out there, scientific papers about it in pubmed. Also bufotenine for example is a part of normal metabolism...

though the idea that dmt is released in the pineal and all of that is just supposition that Rick Strassman started and many people take it as truth, but it has never been proven.

[riaahacker]

N,N-dimethyltryptamine does naturally occur in the human body, no one really knows if its used for anything. DMT's association with dreaming and near death experiences are only speculation. The idea is that DMT is it might be a trace molecule produced in serotonin metabolism but no one is really sure

[dmtHELLA]

I too have heard it all, that DMT occurs at death (because when the brain runs out of oxygen serotonin and dopamine convert to DMT), DMT occurs when a baby takes his first birth of air, and I've also heard it is released when we dream.

If anyone knows of actually scientific studies then please post them, a link or something.

[thunderbyrd]

the reason this is interesting is that when swim reads about dmt, swim only sees reference to one researcher from, swim thinks, early in the 70's. it would be good to know that more than one person has found this.

[dmtHELLA]

yeah i believe it is Rick Strassman as endlessness points out. but i believe it is more speculation than reality but idk. someone with more information please enlighten us.

[Alfa]

The DMT at death and dreams is purely speculative. Rick Strassman never postulated this theory as being proven.

However there has been some scientific data that minute amounts of DMT may be present in the human body.

[Mikey]

Originally Posted by Alfa

The DMT at death and dreams is purely speculative. Rick Strassman never postulated this theory as being proven.

Still bloody interesting thoough.

However there has been some scientific data that minute amounts of DMT may be present in the human body.

I question this. Can anyone link to a MODERN publication that tries to find DMT in humans and what role it may play? All I get is the same old papers from 1970-80 and some tests showing DMT in sheep blood. Nothing modern at all which suggests that the DMT thing may have been exaggerated.

[nuffsaid420]

Originally Posted by Mikey

I question this. Can anyone link to a MODERN publication that tries to find DMT in humans and what role it may play? All I get is the same old papers from 1970-80 and some tests showing DMT in sheep blood. Nothing modern at all which suggests that the DMT thing may have been exaggerated.

No apparently not unless they have more than 50+ posts. So your gonna have to wait I will try to PM you the links or something.....

[mr.mackey]

swim is fairly certain that there are sources mentioned in the spirit molecule, also, swim knows of a study published in the late 80's, swiy could find it pretty easily through google, why? does swiy think these studies are flawed or something?

[shogun875]

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/loc...tid=53&id=6161

is a good article that came out last year. While it is not a study that found dmt, it cites many older studies that did, and also a few new ones that found it in areas of the brain around newly discovered receptors, the implications of which this article is discussing

[enhancion01]

Originally Posted by Alfa

The DMT at death and dreams is purely speculative. Rick Strassman never postulated this theory as being proven.

However there has been some scientific data that minute amounts of DMT may be present in the human body.

Now how does swim extract it?

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by enhancion01

Now how does swim extract it?

you don't extract it from yourself.

[wednesday]

Originally Posted by enhancion01

Now how does swim extract it?

"Now how does swim extract it? "

first Swimlies should consider who goes first amongst them
little boy Doron (don't make fun that my dads name and his father before him) decides his left hand pinky finger isn't a necessity
take the finger (good for a quick blast into DMT space)
weigh it
most fingers weigh something like 1500 grams
now take your finger and a capful of lemon juice and put it in a 850w blender, blend until a paste like consistency is reached
take the paste and put it into your mixing bowl(more on that later) and add lemon juice until it just covers the material (usually works out to about ten percent of the original finger weight)
now mix the two together with a glass stirrer in a stainless steel mixing bowl no younger than 15 years as the steel produces tiny flagellum with age that coat the inside breaking down the cellular structure of anything introduced into its clutches
stir for 30 minutes on low heat
let this brew sit for an hour (spend this time preparing your carrot juices people)
then take a funnel and coffee filter and filter the finger into and 713 ml Erlenmeyer flask
now put the finger and new lemon juice into your first mixing bowl except this time let the brew sit for 20 minutes after an initial stir
strain and combine with your first pull in the Erlenmeyer flask
do another pull the same way except waiting 50 minutes this time to ensure you have got all the goodies
now after you have all three pulls in one flask evaporate down to a workable amount of lemon juice maybe 100 ml
and add a quarter teaspoon of baking powder
now you want to go get three footballs and pop them all (smell that? its money!!!)
o.k. now go buy a pack of lighters any kind will do and break them all open into a bowl preferably plastic trying not to get any little pieces of lighter into with the fluid
filter the lighter fluid (hint hint this is the step you can skip, for those of you who are impatient)
mix in 100 ml of the lighter fluid with the lemon juice and baking powder
let this mixture sit and it will separate into two distinct layers (after about twenty minutes)
the top layer will be where your goodies are now mixed with the lighter fluid
take this lighter fluid and get a turkey baster and slurp up the lighter fluid, again if some of the yuckies from below get in its o.k.
now put that lighter fluid into a shallow baking dish any kind will do and wrap it in plastic wrap and put it in the freezer for a day and a twelves hour
get a mason jar and fix a coffee filter onto it and prepare a mixture of your own urine and the preformentioned carrot juice now get the baking dish out of the freezer and quickly pour it onto the filter un afix the coffee filter front the mouth of the jar and attach it to another after all has been pour onto it
now pour enough of the solution you have just prepared over the crystals to at least moisten all of it
and let it fry in a cool breeze once it has completely evaporated off everything but the crystals you are done
now its time to celebrate brothers
of course more could be Xtracted from your leftovers and the product could be cleaned until its see thru pure loveliness
but who wants to waste their time doing all that
come on
smoke it
thats it brother
breathe it all in
no thats my hand
sorry

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very amusing

[enhancion01]

lmao thats good

[Desertfox]

No extraction needed, just smoke the pineal gland, freshly ripped from the skull

(DON'T TAKE THIS AS ADVICE and note that this would be an experience different form pure DMT because of other neurotransmitters present and endogenous hallucinogens.)

[nate81]

http://deoxy.org/annex/daytripr.htm

The most recent study was 1990 from this link. Probably the reason there aren't many new studies that are trying to detect DMT levels from a human are because it's been done plenty of times and is accepted as fact since there has been more than enough peer review.

So we know that humans sometimes have DMT in body fluids. We know that acute schizophrenics are more likely to have DMT (and in higher levels). We just don't know things like where it is made in the body, when it is made, why it is made, what controls are in place to keep it in check, and when/why it is released. So pretty much next to nothing is known about DMT.

Until someone gets their hands on a whole bunch of living pineal glands or comes up with a non-invasive method of detecing DMT, there is no reason to assume that to be it's source. It's a solid guess, but not fact.

[Gradient]

nate81,

Here are two studies from earlier this year (2009).
You should check this post out: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83155
As well as this one: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83199

The compound behaves as a sigma-1 receptor regulator.
It has also been identified as having a role in sensory systems.

-G

[dmtHELLA]

that is a question that is answered in many other forums

[cra$h]

if it weren't for the god damn DEA, we'd be able to research this very illusive chemical a little more.....

[dmtHELLA]

Agreed. This chemical is definitely powerful and holds many secrets and answers. Imagine what it could teach us of the human psyche. Curious, is there any justification for the criminalization of dimethyltryptamine?

[shogun875]

From what SWIM has heard it became popular around the same time as LSD and many saw it as very similar it was just lumped in the same category and banned. This is just word of mouth from hippies however, SWIM would be interested in any real info