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Old 14-03-2009, 00:53
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Help SWIM out

SWIM bought some "pimp grade" kratom crushed leaf. After taking about 3 teaspoons of the leaf, SWIM only notices mild effects. If SWIM takes as much power, effects are MUCH stronger.

Any idea what SWIM is doing wrong?
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Old 14-03-2009, 18:50
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Re: Help SWIM out

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SWIM bought some "pimp grade" kratom crushed leaf. After taking about 3 teaspoons of the leaf, SWIM only notices mild effects. If SWIM takes as much power, effects are MUCH stronger.

Any idea what SWIM is doing wrong?
Well, 3 teaspoons of crushed leaf is likely to be significantly less material than 3 teaspoons of powder. It is the mass that is significant for the dose, not the volume. Also, kratom is known to vary considerably in potency, both between and within brands. Another possible factor is the buildup of tolerance. As with regular opioids, kratom users rapidly build up tolerance, requiring higher doses over time. But based on the wording of the original question, it seems that the most likely problem is simply that 1tsp. of powder is not an equal dose to 1 tsp. of leaf.

Finally, please use more descriptive titles for your threads in the future. They should give some indication of what the thread is about. "Help SWIM out" doesn't say anything about the contents of your post. Something along the lines of "difference between kratom leaf and powder" would be a slightly better title.
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Re: Help SWIM out

SWIM suggests making tea from crushed leaf, it really is the best way to use it OR grind the leaf up into fine powder and take the regular dose.
As helikophis suggested there are many variables in Kratom potency so tell SWIY to keep testing.
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Re: Help SWIM out

SWIM suggests the toss and wash method. Simply put on a spoon the measured dose and chug down a bunch of water with it. The tea is also a great way but wastes a lot of material even if it is boiled more than one time.

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Old 20-04-2009, 21:02
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Pete, how does SWIY find TnWing crushed leaf ? is it easy ?
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Re: Help SWIM out

chew the crushed leaves if SWIY can gut it out. kratom appears to have a strong Bio availability bucally. (this may not be true, not enough science to this theory yet just annecdotes) Swim has found that it reduces nausea and increases the effects
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