Opinions - What is the strongest hallucinogen?

[HellsEmbrace]

Which? I have a deep, deep desire to trip out of my mind. I'm thinking LSD, but are shrooms more potent? Mescaline? What's the best way to trip the strongest, basically?


Money is no object, I'll probably only do it the once.

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[ibbjamin]

If you have no connections, I suppose you could order 2C-E from the internet, and take a large dose. This will be sufficient to put you in a strange place for a little while. Otherwise, a strong LSD trip can be rather intense, yet, enjoyable, but finding quality LSD these days is tough work; as least I haven't been hearing of any.

[drug_user]

Originally Posted by HellsEmbrace

Money is no object, I'll probably only do it the once.

hehehe thats what eveyone says, anyway DPT, DMT, 5-meo-dmt, 2c-e, are all pretty damn stong, and are all good. 2c-e is strong in a different and more uncomfortable aspect.

[icemaster]

DMT

[Bojangles]

I would say AMT (the only research chemical i have ever taken)


next would be LSD

[K_Rakovsky]

If you want something that will make you trip quickly, and potently in a non-LSD fasion give Dextromethorphan a try, it is the active ingredient in most cough medicines and is completely over the counter - simply make sure you buy the bottle labeled Dextromethorphan - 15mg, only, you do not want any other active ingredients other then DXM - or you will throw up - you may through up from the corn syrup itself - 4oz. should be enough for your first time. I, personally, have never thrown up from drinking cough syrup - but have from popping 20 of the Robotussin pure DXM pills that are new and OTC.

[Alfa]

DMT for a short & intense ride or Ayahuasca for a very intense long trip. I myself prefer mescaline or alice, but if you a looking for STRONG, DMT is the way to go.

[kitchkinet]

LSD is the most potent, DMT is the most powerful. AMT sucks.

[Shroomerite42]

yeah, I've heard of people IVing DMT, try that man!

[Alfa]

I wouldn't advise IV-ing DMT. It will sure be strong as hell, but no way in hell that I am going even near the place that action will send you.

[thesnave]

A couple of my friends tried AMT a while back and they loved it. They snorted about a half-capsule each and told me they all tripped balls for about 12-18 hours. I never got to try it though...the guy that was selling it took too many and OD'ed. =\ (he was revived after about ten minutes though..)

[Tweak]

Smoke 5mg of 5-MeO-DMT and you will be blown away ;D

Inecting sedatives and hallucinogens is one of those things that you DONT DO!! Especially IV!

DMT is not to be messed around with alright!

I have personally smoked 20mg 5-MeO-DMT before but that was crazy and I will NEVER do that again!

It is best to start small with Dmt because it is very potent and in higher doses can be dangerous.

ALWAYS have a trip sitter, this is very important!

A tripsitter is a good friend who will remain straight while you experience your trip and will help you in case you start to lose it and get scared! I cannot stress this enough, DMT can make you feel like you are dying..Without someone telling you that this is not true and 'Its all in yuor head" then it can be a truly horrific experience!!

If you are not an experienced Psychonaut then I do not suggest DMT, especially 5-MeO-DMT.

[kitchkinet]

DMT and 5-meo-dmt are very different. DMT is always injected in clinical studies.

[Tweak]

To avoid any confusion, 5-meo-dmt was being referred to in every reference in my last post..Seems i got lazy and typed dmt a few times <img border="0" src= "smileys/smiley1.gif">

[smartbee]

Honestly i think it's Salvinorin A, just need 100 mcg. Read articles of Daniel Siebert.

[OneDiaDem]

Ayahuasca, a large dose of mushrooms, or a high dose of mescaline would be the choices I would make. Im a natural buff tho.

[pancho]

how would an average dose meskaline compare to about 40mg of 2c-i? and if you really want to trip out of your mind for aobut 10 hours 140mg of 2c-i will most definenlty do it. for the 1st 2-3 hours you'll think you killed yourself then everything becomes a time of your life

[P4nic]

Eat about 20-30 Datura seeds and you'll be gone for several hours on a STRONG trip,very strong, those seeds contain atropine, the strongest hallucinating chemical that exists. Although I don't recommend it to anyone.


Why make it so difficult with the research chemicals ? Eat 2-3 doses of Hawain shrooms and you'll be gone too !

[Alfa]

I think beyond a certain point of strength measurements will be purely subjective, while physical side effects will mark the max level.

[hh339]

DMT and 5-MEO-DMT are both extremly powerful... but the most intense experience i have had must have beenwhen i took 60 milligrams of 5-MEO-DIPT. Man that was quite a ride I took one gram of DXM once, but did not enjoy it very much asi felt there was an"evil" aspect to it... Hawaaian mushrooms are nice too

[thydarkprevails]

i'd go with a decent dose of mushrooms, *at least a quarter oz* you may not "talk to god", but you will have a clear thought process, and learn much.

[Roots of Evil]

Originally Posted by discobloodbath

it talks about datura here http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura_faq.shtml#5

from everything i've ever read, mostly negitive things seem to surround it

That doesn't mean it's not the strongest hallucinogen, it's pretty dissociative and of what've read everyone seem to be unable to control themself.

[psyko_tripper]

Datura is actually a deleriant!

How about a good dose of ketamine iv?

[Roots of Evil]

Datura is a deleriant, but yet it still give you hallucination ?

[windtraveler]

I would put DPT in the same category as DMT (it is actually a cousin i believe). But when you ask for the strongest you are asking a purely subjective question, as alpha pointed out.