Experiences - better then aderall??

[robo21]

ive recently been prescribed vyvanse. I am taking 70mg of it daily and it is the strongest "buzz" ive felt yet for an ADD specific drug. im just looking for any other expiriences people have had with vyvanse...

[TestPattern]

Welcome to the forums! Though the above post didn't describe anything illegal, it is still forum policy to adopt the usage of SWIM (some one who isn't me) rather than direct pronouns that might lead to some sort of connections with illicit activity. No one on this forum uses illegal drugs or misuses drugs in any way...we all just know a lot of people who do!

As to the topic itself, SWIM has heard many good things about Vyvanse and its cousin Dexedrine, and plans to soon meet with his prescribing physician to discuss a possible switch to one of these drugs. SWIM figures that the lack of the levo-amphetamine in these drugs makes a BIG difference in the dosing. The bio availability of amphetamine is only ~25% (according to the wiki), and SWIM conjectures that the lack of the l-amph allows for much more d-amph to be safely consumed, as there is much less physical stimulation.

Now, here's to hoping SWIM's insurance covers Dex or Vyvanse, as it didn't even cover Adderall XR...

[TruLadyRed]

SWIM hated Vyvanse and went immediately back on Adderall. Vyvanse made her very agitated and aggressive after a couple of days and SWIM punched out a car window from road rage.

[plosik11]

SWIM is prescribed Vyvanse, but it does not work as well as Focalin, which is a band new stimulant (twice the potentcy of adderall). Vyvanse makes his muscles twitch, and has absolutely no recreational value. However is does healp with SWIM'S ADD.

[Herbal Healer 019]

Some1 Who Aint Me found vyvanse pretty euphoric & probably ties with adderall in SWAM's opinion...

Saying that Vyvanse has no recreational value is completely inaccurate, although vyvanse was created to have less abuse potential than adderall.

Obviously whether or not vyvanse is seen as recreational all comes down to opinion.

[100mg Methylphenidate]

Originally Posted by plosik11

SWIM is prescribed Vyvanse, but it does not work as well as Focalin, which is a band new stimulant (twice the potentcy of adderall). Vyvanse makes his muscles twitch, and has absolutely no recreational value. However is does healp with SWIM'S ADD.

Do you have anything to say that is scientifically accurate? This forum is for the small percentage of people who care about living and want to know how the drugs their friends use work, what they do, and how to be as safe as possible with them.

You just told somebody that snorting Focalin is like snorting cocaine but without the danger, and now you're saying adderall is only half as potent as Focalin? Excuse me, but there is no way in hell that is accurate. Methylphenidate is not near as potent as adderall, and it's incredibly unlikely that dexmethylphenidate is either. These mistakes can get people KILLED. I have read that methamphetamine, definitely stronger than any focalin, is twice as potent as dextroamphetamine(ie. dexedrine, also makes up for half the dose in adderall).

You need to get a question-everything attitude and do some research. On everything, as far as various cardiac problems, drug metabolism, drug interactions, what organs the drugs affect and why, etc. You need to know for a fact what you're saying is correct before you start spreading ignorance around to others.

In fact, doctors generaly(they don't have to) prescribe methylphenidate/dexmethylphenidate first(or after strattera), and then move on to amphetamines(dexedrine, dextrostat, adderall) when that doesn't work.

I'm not trying to attack you. But God damn. Could you be any more inaccurate with stuff like this? At least try to be educated on this shit for swiy's sake. It doesn't appear that swiy even understand what he's doing well enough to do drugs safetly. It's one thing to make a typo or be wrong, but you're wrong with some very obvious shit, that should be taken very seriously.

And for the topic. Swim has absolutely no desire to try vyvanese. He already has to take ridiculous amounts of adderall to get high a lot of the time. And he really doubts it would be potent enough to please him. In fact, the invention of it pisses swim off, because now it's just going to make it that much harder for him to get a doctor to write him an adderall script.

[benzowashington]

I was prescribed Vyvanse a month ago. The only difference is that they started me on 10 pills at 30mg, then 20 pills at 50mg, and monday I'll start the 70mg.

I haven't really felt the rush on Vyvanse (and NOTHING like taking an Adderall) and that was really the point of Vyvanse. It was supposed to be a "smoother ride". Also, they say it's supposed to be less habit forming. It definitely is a smooth ride me. I felt an initial rush with the first two days of taking the 30mg, and the first two days of taking 50mg, but after that it's fine. I suspect when I start the 70mg, it will be the same. I guess this rush I get may not be as strong as yours, seeing as I was stairstepped into Vyvanse.

It could just be like every other ADHD/ADD medication out there. It's going to be weird when you first take it. It's happened to me every time with every stimulant. If it doesn't equal out in a couple of days, I'd switch if that's what you wanted! Good luck!

[Xander Forreal]

SWIM has indulged in the consumption of just about every ADD/ADHD medication available to qualified recipients. SWIM'S opinion is as follows: strattera is the weakest, followed by methylphenidate and other closely-related chemicals of that same family. Amphetamines are by FAR the most potent, excluding Desoxyn (methamphetamine) due to the fact that they are not common due to the fact that they're only prescribed for extreme cases of obesity, ADD/ADHD, and etc.
When SWIY ingests or insufflates and adderall pill, swiy is not consuming pure Amphetamine... It's a little known fact that Amphetamine used for stimulant-therapy is, in actuality, a combination of different amphetamine salts. For example, take the name brand Adderall... Adderall XR capsules are comprised of 4 different amphetamine salts in equivalent amounts. The reason why is simple: Adderall XR is intended to be metabolized by your body at a relatively slow rate, hence "Extended Release". They accomplish this not only by filling the capsules with 4 different Amphetamine salts which are metabolized by your body at differents rates and possess dissimilar half-lives but also by making their product in the shape of small beads. As opposed to a powderized form, the beads have more surface area and have more mass, than straight powder. As a result, your body cannot metabolize the chemical as fast as it would if the capsule contained pure powder.
In conclusion, different Amphetamine-based medications, whether used recreationally or medicinally are similar in that they all contain different salts similarly related to the base molecule, Amphetamine. Since they are essentially different compounds, naturally they will have slightly varied physiological effects. And with this comes the different dosages from medication to medication. But of course, the effects on one person's mind may be completely different from the effects on the mind of SWIY. That's a whole different story.

-Xander

[stratry]

Vyvanse's effectiveness aside, SWIM told the doctor he wasn't going to pay his insurance company's highest drug rate for it when freakin' Adderall IR is in the cheapest category.