Drugs-Forum  
Home Wiki Studies Forum Groups Blog Video Images News
Go Back   Drugs Forum > DRUG-FORUMS > Amphetamine > Adderall
Mark Forums Read
Register Tags

Notices

 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 10-03-2009, 20:39
XombieShovel XombieShovel is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: 10-03-2009
23 y/o Male
Posts: 4
XombieShovel is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 16, Level: 1 Points: 16, Level: 1 Points: 16, Level: 1
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Abusing Vyvanse

SWIM raves alot. SWIM has found that abusing Vyvanse at a rave, although not as fun, is almost as fun as taking MDMA and rolling, but Vyvanse is safer and cheaper too.

SWIM is prescribed 50mg capsules of Vyvanse, and has abused it up to 100mg with ENORMOUS amounts of caffeine and energy drinks before. SWIM would like to start going beyond 100mg.

Does anyone have any advice for SWIM? What can SWIM do to maximize the effects of Vyvanse? At what dosage does Vyvanse start to really get dangerous? Is there a "golden" dosage of Vyvanse? What should SWIM not do or take while abusing Vyvanse?
  #2  
Old 10-03-2009, 20:52
cra$h cra$h is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: 21-10-2007
22 y/o Male from United States
Posts: 2,377
Blog Entries: 2
cra$h really knows their shit.cra$h really knows their shit.cra$h really knows their shit.cra$h really knows their shit.cra$h really knows their shit.cra$h really knows their shit.cra$h really knows their shit.cra$h really knows their shit.cra$h really knows their shit.
Points: 2,019, Level: 6 Points: 2,019, Level: 6 Points: 2,019, Level: 6
Activity: 1.8% Activity: 1.8% Activity: 1.8%
Re: Abusing Vyvanse

keep the fluids up. it's an amphetamine, so just do as you would regularly. If you're pushing some crazy high doses, then meth might be the better option. but 100mg isn't all that bad. watch your heart too. take a break and cool off if it's going faster than the music!
  #3  
Old 11-03-2009, 04:54
XombieShovel XombieShovel is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: 10-03-2009
23 y/o Male
Posts: 4
XombieShovel is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 16, Level: 1 Points: 16, Level: 1 Points: 16, Level: 1
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Abusing Vyvanse

Thx, SWIM wanted to start low and work his way up. SWIM may one day go as high as 300mg, but will play it safe for now.
  #4  
Old 11-03-2009, 05:30
Capita Capita is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: 07-04-2008
Male
Posts: 97
Capita should urgently read the rules & received reputation comments.
Re: Abusing Vyvanse

Swim thinks takeing more vyvanse will only make it last longer and make you feel carpper because vyvanse is a prodrug and is broken down by a enzyme. So it can only break down the non active amp into active amp as fast as the enzymes work. This means theres a limit on how high swiy can get from vyvanse.
  #5  
Old 11-03-2009, 12:31
Boca Bitch Boca Bitch is offline
Account Awaiting Email Confirmation.
 
Join Date: 20-12-2008
23 y/o Male from United States
Posts: 549
Boca Bitch probably knows what they are talking about.Boca Bitch probably knows what they are talking about.Boca Bitch probably knows what they are talking about.Boca Bitch probably knows what they are talking about.
Points: 493, Level: 3 Points: 493, Level: 3 Points: 493, Level: 3
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Abusing Vyvanse

Quote:
Originally Posted by XombieShovel View Post
SWIM raves alot. SWIM has found that abusing Vyvanse at a rave, although not as fun, is almost as fun as taking MDMA and rolling, but Vyvanse is safer and cheaper too.

SWIM is prescribed 50mg capsules of Vyvanse, and has abused it up to 100mg with ENORMOUS amounts of caffeine and energy drinks before. SWIM would like to start going beyond 100mg.

Does anyone have any advice for SWIM? What can SWIM do to maximize the effects of Vyvanse? At what dosage does Vyvanse start to really get dangerous? Is there a "golden" dosage of Vyvanse? What should SWIM not do or take while abusing Vyvanse?
Vyvanse is not in any way safer than MDMA. Doperminergic stimulants are notoriously damaging physiologically and psychologically; while comparatively, the serotonergic empathogens tend to be a lot more benign. However, since it's doubtful that SWIY has found pure MDMA, Vyvanse (which is FDA regulated) would be more predictable in effect.

The combination of amphetamines and caffeine should be avoided. Caffeine has a powerful potentiating effect on amphetamines, that can result in excitotoxicity (neural death due to overstimulation) at a much lower of a dose than amp alone. And if SWIY should decide to consume caffeine, at least choose a source that's lower in sugar. Energy drinks are just about the worst hell you can put your body through while amped. Amphetamine causes a significant release of both norepinephrine and epinephrine; these excitatory neurotransmitters are responsible for triggering the "flight or fight" response when released. As part of preparing one's body for action, blood-sugar levels sharply increase. Combining the already highly elevated glucose levels with more refined sugar can cause severe damage to insulin production, potentially triggering the on-set of diabetes in those pre-disposed.

The exact lethal doseage of amphetamines is not entirely understood nor properly tested.. it can greatly vary from one individual to another. Generally speaking, upwards of 500mgs. is more likely to result in fatal od, while upwards of 150mgs. is likely to result in non-leathal overdose. But there are many variables that can alter what would normally be a safe dose, such as tolerance and stomach acidity (if taken orally).
  #6  
Old 11-03-2009, 15:04
Potter Potter is nu online
Platinum Member & Advisor
 
Join Date: 01-04-2005
33 y/o Female from United States
Posts: 7,859
Blog Entries: 27
Potter is a true resource and beyond reputePotter is a true resource and beyond reputePotter is a true resource and beyond reputePotter is a true resource and beyond reputePotter is a true resource and beyond reputePotter is a true resource and beyond reputePotter is a true resource and beyond reputePotter is a true resource and beyond reputePotter is a true resource and beyond reputePotter is a true resource and beyond reputePotter is a true resource and beyond repute
Points: 18,439, Level: 19 Points: 18,439, Level: 19 Points: 18,439, Level: 19
Activity: 95.6% Activity: 95.6% Activity: 95.6%
Re: Abusing Vyvanse

Boca Bitch: Actually you're figures are rather low.

(from PDR 1998's amphetamine prescription information)
Quote:
Individual patient response to amphetamines varies widely. While toxic symptoms occasionally occur as an idiosyncracy at dosages as low as 2mg, they are rare with doses of less than 15mg; 30mg can produce severe reactions, yet doses of 400 to 500mg are not necessarily fatal. In rats, the oral LD50 of dextroamphetamine sulfate is 96.8 mg/kg.
from the MSDS sheet
Quote:
ORL-HMN TDLO 41 mg kg-1
ORL-RAT LD50 55 mg kg-1
IPR-RAT LD50 125 mg kg-1
ORL-MUS LD50 24 mg kg-1
IVN-MUS LD50 68 mg kg-1
ORL-DOG LD50 23 mg kg-1
Dr. Rodger C. Smith found cases of people mainlining 15,000 mg of speed, that's 15 grams of the stuff, these were isolated cases and in no way representative of sane doses. He does state that most people can withstand direct injections of 400-500 mg, even if they never took the drug before.

Not that taking more then 60mg doesn't produce some level of discomfort in most folks. Nobody has to say "working up to 300mg" sounds like a fantastic way to become an addict. Frankly they'd place good money you won't be able to quit after you do that. That sort of tolerance takes habitual addiction. You ever meet a speed addict? They get obnoxious. That stuff will change your personality, it will change your relationships, and it will change your chemistry. You should consider going and reading up in the addictions forums to get an idea of what you are getting your self into. Scientists need to fund their experiments, you've your hands on some fancy grant? What happens if the supply of the chemical dries up? Can you deal with the withdrawal when the time comes?

Experiments such as this have their uses, but one always needs to question their motives and compare them to the risks. You must take account external factors such as money, relationships, living situation. Failure to do so may lead to abject poverty or even an untimely demise.

What kind of shape is your heart in? Nobody's done some pretty massive caffeine doses and knows how that feels, mixing with large amounts of amphetamines may push your heart to it's limit. Such a reaction is likely to be fatal, the cost of bringing you back to life can be incredible, ten's of thousands of dollars. It might behoove the scientist to attempt to find an EKG of some sort and learn how to read it.

Well best of luck.

Share this on:

Tags
drug abuse, mdma

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Health - The Vyvanse experience- What you may or may not know. Tatumrockwell Amphetamine 4 03-01-2013 03:30
Addiction - 6 weeks of vyvanse ended today Uncomfortably Numb Adderall 6 23-12-2012 12:48
Combinations - lansoprazole (Prevacid) & lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse) disturbedfuel15 Amphetamine 5 02-04-2010 12:27

» New Threads
Anyone else on sub wake up hardly...
Last post by Trying Again
12 Replies, 287 Views
things around house to get high...
Last post by mecooliez
70 Replies, 1,496,161 Views
Legal drugs, research chemicals...
Last post by scimor
3 Replies, 1,968 Views
Naltrexone Experiences?
Last post by Chrisc
0 Replies, 1 Views
Sigma Plateau Guide - Help
Last post by hunter19877
3 Replies, 47 Views
Why did they discontinue the...
Last post by Trying Again
2 Replies, 44 Views
DXM Movies
Last post by hunter19877
6 Replies, 117 Views
Led Zeppelin on DXM
Last post by hunter19877
9 Replies, 274 Views
Need insight
Last post by hunter19877
6 Replies, 180 Views
I am absolutely terrified of...
Last post by fibromyalgia
83 Replies, 2,581 Views
» New Wiki Articles

Sitelinks: Information:

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:27.


Copyright: SIN Foundation 2003 - 2014, All rights reserved
"Wiki" powered by VaultWiki v3.0.20 PL 1.