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Old 09-03-2009, 19:04
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What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

SWIM really hates the taste of tobacco and finds its smoke acrid and harsh, and was wondering if there was many other things that could be mixed with cannabis in a joint. For example, could tea leaves be smoked with cannabis instead of tobacco?
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Old 09-03-2009, 19:12
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

Personally Swim thinks a good idea would be to use the "trim" and big leaves of the cannabis plant (only if you can acquire this). Hope that was of some help to Swiy.
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Old 09-03-2009, 20:20
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

SWIM says you can put cloves in a joint like they do in some cigs. evidently they taste and smell good and also have a numbing effect on your lips and mouth which could be interesting
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Old 09-03-2009, 20:24
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

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For example, could tea leaves be smoked with cannabis instead of tobacco?
Oh yeah, Swim would not recommend this because it tastes absolutely foul to him, .
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Old 09-03-2009, 20:25
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

Swim uses herbal cigarettes, no nicotine !!!
Since he stopped smoking.
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Old 13-03-2009, 00:52
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

Swim uses sill cut silver. Dont use fags that have been laying around for a period of time (ie dry out) because it becomes harsher.
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Old 13-03-2009, 02:48
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

Well their are many flavors of tobacco for rolling purposes which can be bought from a local pipe or tobacco shop, so flavor wise I wouldn't rule that substance out. SWIY could use just about anything herbal so maybe just go through a near spice cabinet. Cat Nip is about only thing that comes to mind though that SWIM has tried besides tobacco and it wasn't to bad.
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Old 14-03-2009, 01:56
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

We've heard stories of catnip, damiana, and mint working well. SWIM and everyone he knows always just mix cannabis with more cannabis...
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Old 18-03-2009, 01:27
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

Head on over to the ethnobotanical's section. There's a bunch of information on various herbs. Swim's personal recommendation is either Damiana or Indian Warrior. Check em out.
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Old 23-03-2009, 21:54
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

i suppose u could use the herb mixes like spice but that would be expensive but there are other herb mixes that are cheaper and give u more for your money also there are flavoured tobbaco's such as cherry, strawberry and so on also there's that stuff called tastey puff but i dont realy like it....
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Old 30-03-2009, 20:56
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

Lettiuce opium can be useful. It has it's own, very mild, psycohactive effect which is slightly similar to cannabis and can be aquired both cheaply and legally (in the UK at least). It tends to be sold reasonably dry and as a burning/cutting agent for cannabis it can be effective.
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Old 31-03-2009, 00:44
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

I would like to see a definitive Yahoo "best answer" type resolution to this question that bugs many a stoner out there, SWIM included. He doesn't smoke tobacco on its own and not even getting onto the long-term harmful effects of even small doses, tobacco is damn expensive. An alternative would be very welcome. These alternatives aren't easy to come by however. No offensive to anyone who might have posted here, but the suggestions made aren't realistic enough. Whatever replaces tobacco needs to be very similar to it. It must have a very neutral taste, no mints or cloves. It needs to burn consistently, no honking on wet leaves. It needs to be cheap, no forking out twenty notes for three joints' worth.

Perhaps there just isn't a good alternative to tobacco in joints. It might be time to buy a glass bong.
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Old 31-03-2009, 01:19
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

I've heard passionflower can be nice
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Old 31-03-2009, 04:45
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

SWIM has rolled a blunt with weed and plain salvia leaf and it worked quite well. plain salvia leaf is cheap and wont do much unless you smoke a whole lot of it and it burns nice and consistently if you grind it or crush it up into similarly sized pieces.
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Old 31-03-2009, 07:08
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

I don't see what the problem with Lettuice opium is. The taste may be dissimilar to tobacco but it is inoffensive, it's no more expensive (a quick search found several places offering 28-50 grams of Lactuca Virosa for around the same price as good rolling tobacco), it is usually quite dry, completely legal, and was used as a mild painkiller in the 19th century so comes with its own calming effects (albeit very weak).

There are other "tobacco replacements" such as Earth Impact, Happy Herb and the Knaster range, amongst others, which are, again, cheap, inoffensive, legal and come with thier own, very mild, effects.

I have also heard dried corriander suggested as being efficacious - again, cheap, easily available (in fact child's play to grow your own, but any supermarket of reasonable size will have it) although I have only recieved one report of its use as a burning agent and it did not mention the taste.

Camellia Sinensis has also be used which is, again, relatively inexpensive, widely availaible and has its own, mild psychoactive effects.

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Old 31-03-2009, 13:15
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

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I would like to see a definitive Yahoo "best answer" type resolution to this question that bugs many a stoner out there, SWIM included. He doesn't smoke tobacco on its own and not even getting onto the long-term harmful effects of even small doses, tobacco is damn expensive. An alternative would be very welcome. These alternatives aren't easy to come by however. No offensive to anyone who might have posted here, but the suggestions made aren't realistic enough. Whatever replaces tobacco needs to be very similar to it. It must have a very neutral taste, no mints or cloves. It needs to burn consistently, no honking on wet leaves. It needs to be cheap, no forking out twenty notes for three joints' worth.

Perhaps there just isn't a good alternative to tobacco in joints. It might be time to buy a glass bong.
Tobaccoin Ireland costs 8.10 per 20 box. It is a cost swim wish as a weed-only smoker has to endure. Wish weed was cheaper here then blunts would be amazing.


An alternative would be amazing considering how harmful tobacco is.
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Old 31-03-2009, 22:15
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

SWIM likes to mix different strains of marijuana together. Other than that SWIM occasionally enjoys a spliff with some high quality tobacco or with some Blue Lotus or Wild Lettuce. There are some very pleasant synergies with legal plants and marijuana.
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Old 31-03-2009, 23:17
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

Marshmallow (leaf), mullein,
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

Swiy could buy some bottom shelf schwag weed and mix it in with some better herb to cut down cost
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Old 03-04-2009, 13:30
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

Friend of mine uses an old 19thcent recipe for asthma.

Pinch of dry Datura mixed in with cannabis and smoked.
No cough or splutter, even relieves symptoms of colds, though at what cost to health is not known.
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Old 03-04-2009, 16:42
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

In the past, SWIM has substituted tobacco with parsely as SWIM is not a tobacco smoker.

It burns well, according to him, and the taste isn't that bad either. SWIM rarely rolls joints, however, as he much prefers using a pipe, and only uses joints for convenience.

SWIM has also heard good things about various mints, but has never tried them himself.
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Old 06-04-2009, 20:21
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

SWIM has used damiana, skullcap, passionflower, wormwood, and chamomile.

They're all fairly cheap at a your local natural markets.

Damiana seems to make SWIM more paranoid and spacy...
Skull cap may have a numbing effect, and an energetic feel for a bit?
passion flower swim hasn't noticed much of effect, but it has a nice taste.
SWim thinks wormword tastes gross so it's out of the question.
chamomile could be swims top pick of the bunch. it has the same effect as the tea... seems to be a lighter smoke..

out of those for taste swim thinks chamomile is the best, then passion flower, then damiana. though swim hasn't tested all indiviually except for the damiana. passion flower might have the least effect if you can even notice the effect of these.

for least harshness swim would say that Passionflower and chamomile are the least harsh... then damiana and skull cap...

Swim suggests expirmenting with with those except the wormwood.

Swim thinks damiana and chamomile are easiest to roll...

damiana can be a bit twiggy.
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

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Tobaccoin Ireland costs 8.10 per 20 box. It is a cost swim wish as a weed-only smoker has to endure. Wish weed was cheaper here then blunts would be amazing.


An alternative would be amazing considering how harmful tobacco is.
If your not a tobacco smoker, why on earth dont you just use rolling tobacco instead? You can get Amber Leaf or Golden Virginia for what ... 3.80? Lasts way longer, and it comes unrolled.
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

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If your not a tobacco smoker, why on earth dont you just use rolling tobacco instead? You can get Amber Leaf or Golden Virginia for what ... 3.80? Lasts way longer, and it comes unrolled.
Swim started off using this type of cig. Learned how to roll with it. Swim tried to use rolling tobbaco once but found it much harsher and harder to roll with actually. Swim found himself having to purposely have the joint a little loose so it would burn properly with rolling tobbaco.

Swim also thinks that silcut silver has the lowest amount of tar+nicotine leading to a nicer and less harse smoke.

Please correct me if someone has found rolling tobbaco with less tar/nic.
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Re: What else could cannabis be mixed with in a joint?

Swim often will use catnip, wormwood or saffron (harsh, but good saffron can have a mild pot buzz on it's own when smoked). Just take out any twigs that might be in the mix and it will make your smoke last longer.

A bit of ash and resin on top of a bowl helps to minimize excess burning that destroys THC before it gets in your lungs. Swim also puts an extra screen on top of the stuff. It helps to make his smoke last longer.

Edit: Wormwood will have a 'clarity' effect when combined with weed. It seems to lighten the heavy body high of weed and Swim finds he can think much more clearly combining it in the smoke than if he had smoked the weed by itself.

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