Drug info - a situation of a different kind (maybe)

[lightning_po]

Hey there DF : I have a pet fox that is a weekend druggie, with experience in hallucinogens, OTC stuff (DUMB!!), Scripts, inhalants, weed, and alchohol. The fox, named Enigma, has not really ever been addicted to anything, but he has also never done the "HARD" drugs like heroin and coke and meth... Due to some recent legal trouble, Engima decided that he no longer wanted to get fucked up too much. Weed was never good for him , it makes him dumb (for about a week) and Alchohol makes him sick. he would NEVER do inhalants again EVER because too much brain damage.

The point is that Enigma doesn't want a drug that is traceable , has a possibilty for hallucinating, and he wants something to help with mediation (Enigma is a Taoist). he also wants a drug that could be intense (but doesn't have to be), and could scare the shit out of him (but doens't always). Enigma gets a strange love out of being scared and on an entirely new level, but not with a hard drug. Enigma was reccomended to Salvia, but he has never tried it and now he wants to know a few things:

1. What is a decent meditation dose? (mg and extract x5 x10 or what?
2. What are good surroundings for this dose?
3 For a meditation dose, does Enigma need a spotter?
4. What could he expect to feel from this?

5. What is a decent scary fucking full-blown trip dose? (mg and extract of x5 x10 or what?
6. What are good surroundings to scare the shit out of Enigma?
7. Enigma thinks he would probably need a sitter for this level (right?)
8. What could he expect to feel from this dose?

9. If Enigma smoked about once a week (on the weekend), would Salvia make him dumb? If so , is it a bad dumbing down?
10. anything else you might want to add


sorry to make this like homework, but I've looked around and I cant hardly find this all in one place , and i'm pretty sure that others, like my fox, could definantly benefit from all this... Please contribute what you can!


Thank you for at least reading it, and thanks in advance if you contribute to help!

- Lightning_Po

P.S. the "legal issues" my fox had was his little brother seeing him take pills because he was too fucked up to realize he left on his webcam. Enigma gave his family a scare and the court had sent Enigma to outpatient rehab. Enigma never craves any drugs besides caffiene and nicotine, and now goes to the questionable but not illegal salvia

[Don't fear the Reaper]

ALTHOUGH i'm sure that some of those questions could be easily answered with some simple search engine magic, i'll give it a go.

1. Meditation dose... well SWIM would suggested either using leaves, chewing them (quidding) or a low amount of 5x extract, 1/15 or 1/10th of a gram.

2. Most people seem to prefer a dark, quiet room but first time many will suggest a sitter, someone to make sure SWIY doesn't drop a lighter or some sort.

3. If by spotter your fox means sitter, SWIM suggests a sitter for the 5x extract but isn't sure about the leaves - as long as your fox is sensible!

4. From 5x, your fox could expect to forget where he is, what he's doing, time may take longer, - ask your fox to UTFSE!

5. For a fox, some strong visualisations have occured at 10x and get stronger going up the chain - although remember, 1g of 5x is only as strong at 0.5g of 10x, its just more concentrated. Quick answer, work up the x's, start from 5x to 10, 15 and so on at small doses getting larger, it differs on certain foxes.

6. It depends, once again a fox like Engima may like dark rooms with no sound or some strong bass lines. SWIM doesn't know...

7. Correct. Your fox will need a sitter for anything above 10x for first and second time untill confidence and getting a hang of the effects is built, but a sitter should be constant. Best to be safe.

8. Look it up, strong visuals, gravity pushing you down, lost sense / memory immediatly.

9. Nope, effects may linger for a while but SWIM thinks that your fox would only be dumb untill the effects are gone which shouldn't be too long. It wont be "Uhhhhhhhhhh hahahaha you funny mun" stupid, that depends on the fox i guess?

10. RESEARCH - http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml
SWIM tried their best to answer Enigmas questions!

Reputation Comments on this post:

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	well laid out, just enough to be helpful with the right amout of UTFSE

[shogun875]

SWIM agrees with whats been said, either smoking or quidding leaves or smoking 5x would be fine for meditation and it would be a good idea to have a sitter atleast the 1st time or two until you know what to expect.

as for higher doses, once your fox has tried a meditation dose SWIM would recommend 20x, which wont hit your fox to hard if he only takes a hit or two but can have a large effect if multiple hits are taken. Its good to have a sitter for this, especially the first few times, once your very comfortable with it and not trying anything new (like more hits than usual) its probably ok to be by yourself. SWIM occasionally likes being by himself, it lets SWIM feel more free. Its good to have a routine when your fox is by itself however, like having a safe place to put down the bong, etc.

Smoking once a week shouldent have a lasting effect, exept on the way your fox views the world

a few other tips: Use a butane ligher, Salvia needs to burn hotter than, say, weed to release the active chemicals (salvinorin-a)
a bong then also helps cool the smoke down before entering your lungs and is more effective at giving a good hit.

Salvia is a powerful drug, its hard to predict exactly how it will effect you. Start small and work your way up and have fun

[lightning_po]

SWIY is great! I have relayed all of this to my pet fox. after thinkign, he tells me that I should buy some regular leaves, some 5x and some 20x for the situation. This information is much appreciated. Enigma has 1 more question.

Does salvia make horror movies ACTUALLY SCARY? is it a bad Idea to watch a new horror movie? Enigma the fox is thinking about renting a new movie he hasn't seen and watching a good portion of it on 20x salvia for his first trip dose. Enigma will most likely do a good meditation dose first. and thanks for the info regaurding how salvia burns hotter and to use a bong with cool water.. thank u for information

[shogun875]

no problem, tell your fox though that SWIM wouldent recommend watching a movie or anything while on high doses of salvia, especially the first time, he wont be able to figure out what is going on with himself, let along a movie and trying to concentrate on it would just make him miss out on the effects of salvia. The effects only last 10-15 minutes usually smoking anyway....