Comedown - Speed: Is the high worth the crash?

[SmokeRings]

10 GRAMS??? In 24 hours??? SWIM finds that not only insane, but wonders how good the stuff is, as that is a SHITTON of speed. SWIM thinks most would keel over from that amount. When saying "street amp", what exactly is it?

[BumpBump]

Originally Posted by SmokeRings

10 GRAMS??? In 24 hours??? SWIM finds that not only insane, but wonders how good the stuff is, as that is a SHITTON of speed. SWIM thinks most would keel over from that amount. When saying "street amp", what exactly is it?

he is taliking cuts uk amph sulph/base not meth

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Originally Posted by Hollow Hippie

SWIY should force some food and water down and take multivitamins during a binge, these always helped SWIM when he used amphetamine. Also SWIM would let the amphetamine wear off for about an hour, eat and drink, and then continue his binge.

Swim used to nutrition milk shakes. These help replace the meals your missing...
Anything to give your body to burn will help.
When swim was 15-16 he used alot of amph sulphphate. Comedowns in combination with Ecstacy pills would be hell!
If swim has speed now, its usualy out drinking and he finds he sleeps it off when home then. So not much crash

[Moonage Daydream]

"Street amp" is yer bog standard amphetamine without the meth sold in the uk illegally. Swim must concur - phew ) thought she was bad doing 5g in 70 hours! though certainly don't mean that in annoying moral high ground way, rather amazed and concerned!

[SmokeRings]

Guess SWIM is still not grasping how strong "street amp" is. Any comparisons to coke or meth in weight to give an idea? Maybe 10 to 1 on meth? 1g of meth for SWIM is generally just fine for several days if not more, depending on the level of high desired. 10g and she'd be the poster child for "faces of meth" coke, she used to be able to double if not triple the consumption.

[wespawloski]

As long as SWIM gets sleep soon after, he is fine. What really fucks SWIM up is when he takes the amphetamines late in the evening and gets kicked off his sleep habit.

[vantranist]

For SWIM, the meth comedown is total hell, and very long and drawn out... Still he chooses the meth comedown over cocaine any day. Cocaine has a brutal hard hitting and intense comedown that seems to rip his soul straight out of his body.

Is it worth the comedown? Guess so caus swim always comes back for more.

SWIM always comes back for more with cocaine aswell, but he actually doubts using it sometimes just because the hellish comedown.

On meth SWIM can jack off most of the comedown, on coke thats really not an option.

[thepieman1]

When SWIM took speed (quite a bit), he was quite awake for a long time afterward.

He even got about three hours sleep before waking up again feeling mega awake.

The next day he was awaiting a comedown but it never really came, just slight tiredness.

Just SWIMS experience

[Hollow Hippie]

SWIM has been using (and recently stopped) amphetamine for a little over a year and the comedown was always worth the highs and binges, SWIM would feel like he had the flu for a day and then slept, but the highs were great.

swim reakons meth is about 10 times stronger than amp sulphate

Swim reckons you're incorrect.

[Sushi]

When Alf was still doing amphetamine, 1g would be enough for a 2-3 days binge, non-stop high. True, he was injecting oftenly back then, but even low-quality stuff would be enough for 24 hours, although he felt seriously cheated when it happened. He can't imagine ingesting 10g of amp in 24 hours, be it injecting, snorting, eating, doesn't matter. Either it's really *very* weak (ie mostly not amp), or swiy mistyped that zero

[Princess]

Yes. If you've been having a lot of depression/anxiety/low energy, a couple hours away from it is worth the crash. A lot of times the crash just brings you back to your everyday state if you have depression and anxiety, so the high is absolutely worth the crash.

[teagy]

swim reakons meth is about 10 times stronger than amp sulphate swim dont mind no sleep for 2 days and swim also uses for the buzz not the need so the higher the better
swim aint bothered bout meth if fact swim aint never seen it in the uk swim has heard meth can lead to a nasty habit the quality of swims amp well 10gram = no sleep for 2 days a nice buzz followed by a 3 day crash

[Medici]

SWIM would definitely say that speed + base is worth all the joy, energy and thus extra experiences that would otherwise have been missed in life that it brings....but that's coming from an individual who's only indicator of a comedown is lack of appetite and sleep (but when SWIM is an insomniac that's no great problem )...other than that, it's all good for SWIM

[100mg Methylphenidate]

Swim envies those who have easy comedowns...

Swim goes through extreme anxiety once it's over, extreme exhaustion, some depression, and has to go completely anti-social for a couple days. But the high is so amazing. If only it were possible to have some sort of surgery and be permanently high...

[gretzkynash]

Originally Posted by 100mg Methylphenidate

Swim envies those who have easy comedowns...

Swim goes through extreme anxiety once it's over, extreme exhaustion, some depression, and has to go completely anti-social for a couple days. But the high is so amazing. If only it were possible to have some sort of surgery and be permanently high...

Agreed. Swim has the same feeling and when swim has some beers, craving for amp. on a Saturday night goes up the roof. Swim wants to forget the terrible calmdowns he had before on it.

[BoxStar]

For SWIM it must be worth since he is still going in the fast lane although before he used to be in the extremely-insane lane; 6 years doing coke, 4 years IV; he has done plenty of methylphenidate, amphetamine and he has some experience with meth.

In SWIM experience the crash from (meth) amphetamine is more tolerable than the cocaine crash (probably due the much longer half-life); the crash after being some 50 hours slamming coke is an experience impossible to describe.

SWIM knows that the crash from (meth) amphetamine is nothing to joke about, he has been there too, but there is something unique about cocaine on how fast and hard it can make anyone the most miserable amoeba on this part of the universe.

[Moonage Daydream]

In swim's personal experience, the high is directly proportional to the comedown. Sometimes she thinks to hell with it, and goes on a 2 day bender which she knows will end in tears, but most of the time she does enough to give her a little lift and ensure greater productivity for a while. This isn't for irritating moral reasons, as she would be one hell of a hypocrite in that case. Just that she has been depressed and strung out and to state the bleeding obvious it's no fun.
With coke, the slight elevation of mood is not worth the terrible psychological downer of the following day - for some reason swim cries for no reason at all, without fail, the day after coke. This doesn't happen with speed, maybe cause it has more of a tendency to turn one into an emotional robot.
But that is just swim's particular experience.
Also in this economic climate coke is too damn pricey! And speed is "fair trade" cause it just comes out of someone's bathtub, rather than sliced outta the belly of an unfortunate colombian woman...
of course swim is trying to be darkly humorous, hard to convey in type!

[maYHeM-2009]

SWIM doesn't even get a comedown. In fact SWIM somewhat enjoys the "comedown"

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Originally Posted by BoxStar

In SWIM experience the crash from (meth) amphetamine is more tolerable than the cocaine crash (probably due the much longer half-life); the crash after being some 50 hours slamming coke is an experience impossible to describe.

100% agree. In fact, SWIM wont even touch coke without a dose of speed handy to ensure he can speed through the coke comedown. Coke comedown is so nasty... so so nasty.

[ryanc]

SWIM never really takes large doses of speed, but then again SWIM keeps tolerance to a minimum. SWIM has never exceeded a 50mg dose, and the comedown was really not bad at all. SWIM usually smokes some ganj as SWIM's coming down, and all is well.

[Moonage Daydream]

Indubitably the comedown is worth it... that's why this kitten always comes miaowing straight back to her accelerated whiskas... meth is twice as strong at most, she purrs out. Though mind you she's had amphetamine... ooh maybe 3000 times and meth 3 times so perhaps isn't the most scientific comparison...

[Matt The Funk]

It's always worth it, or he wouldn't do it. Maybe what it does to his brain on binges isn't, but that is his mistake. SWIM likes to have downers for the comedown though, and usually doses when he feels he is about to start coming down.

[Christian1122]

The comedowns definitely suck total ass. He'd say it is not worth it, but of course, it still doesnt stop him. going on SWIM's second night without sleep, hopefully this bowl will chill him out but doubt it. He just gets panic attacks now and it makes it hard. it does help with the jitters though. Is the hangover feeling from not eating or not sleeping?? or both. SWIM has eaten 2 strawberries and a hot dog in the last 2 days and feels like total ass. Extreme tiredness, 0 motivation. Just want to lay here and never move again. All he wants to do is take some more, because that certainly helps. SWIM wishes to god he had some benzos or something. Sleep could not sound better. Its lame how your body is begging but it just doesnt happen. Shouldnt have snorted one at 11 but it just sounded to good. Now SWIM is regretting it as he would probably be sleeping like a fuckin log right now.

[SkipRipper]

SWIM doesn't crash on speed. About the only thing slightly resembling a crash is drowsiness. For SWIM the high outweighs the crash by about 20 to 1. Methylphenidate on the other hand the ratios about 1 to 20.

[Hollow Hippie]

SWIY should force some food and water down and take multivitamins during a binge, these always helped SWIM when he used amphetamine. Also SWIM would let the amphetamine wear off for about an hour, eat and drink, and then continue his binge.

[Moonage Daydream]

Good advice that.though it can be hard to beat the terrible compulsion to redose, even when swim knows sleep should be soon attempted...

[Swimster]

swim swallowed 2 meth pills before. The crash just prooves how useless the expeirience is. Swim dosn't regret and fill crappy after adderal because he toaught himself to not cling to the feeling. He learned from meth crashes quick...But at first he somehow enjoyed that wierd perfectionist high...weird..but not anymore..