Comedown - Speed: Is the high worth the crash?

[100mg Methylphenidate]

When your friends do adderall, are they happy they did it once the comedown starts? Or do they feel retarded for going on a binge and feeling like shit?

Swim only regretted it the one time he came down HARDDDDDD at work. Like, so tired his fingers were hard to move. It actually was somewhat painful and extremely anti-productive. Not that he wasn't already having panic attacks at work and feeling out of breath and wanting to pass the fuck out.

Swim has actually started to enjoy coming down off big binges. The hallucinations are crazy and swim finds he has some control over what he sees and hears. Even if he's in complete agony and having panic attacks and can't sleep, the euphoria during the high totally makes up for it. Even though he has a high tolerance.

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A very interesting poll.

[old hippie 56]

When he was younger, it wasn't all that bad, but now it is pure hell.

[ganjahero420]

yea once swim comes down he swears to himself, SWEARS to himself he wont do amps again becaise the high wasnt worth this at all. after 3 months thou he forgets the pain he casued and repeats the expince. but to answer the poll, hed sya its not worth it.

[Rainbowzz]

Well my friend swim hasn't done it in years, but has to say absolutely not. Especially meth. The days of sleeplessness and feeling like slitting wrists/suicidal is NOT worth it to her.

[420massacre]

Originally Posted by ganjahero420

yea once swim comes down he swears to himself, SWEARS to himself he wont do amps again becaise the high wasnt worth this at all. after 3 months thou he forgets the pain he casued and repeats the expince. but to answer the poll, hed sya its not worth it.

swim says the EXACT same thing! "im never gonna do this again" week later ends up doing it again.

[thepieman1]

Originally Posted by 420massacre

swim says the EXACT same thing! "im never gonna do this again" week later ends up doing it again.

It's the same with many drugs when one get's into them SWIM thinks. Alcohol, E, Speed, Coke whatever.

[Alfa]

please edit the thread title and read the rules

[Sushi]

Alf had a soft spot for speed and overused it periodically. But with time he developed a strong aversion to speed and this shit is a finished business for him. No more speedy highs, never ever burnt-out comedowns. Now, if only he could get rid of his addiction to coffee too, there would be no more stimulants left in his life and he would be a happy furry creature from outer space.

[Moonage Daydream]

swim finds that the comedown is directly proportional to the high, and that this is unlike other substances so that is why speed is for her, though she understands it certainly isn't like that for all cats

[ahappyguy]

Amphetamine comedowns are very mild or nonexistant compared to methylphenidate comedowns. Methylphenidate seems to cause a comedown even when used at a prescribed dosage. When not used in a long binge, and at least giving 24 hours before redosing amphetamine, it seems that the comedown does not happen at all.

[100mg Methylphenidate]

Swim agrees. His first methylphenidate comedown made him want to kill himself. They're full of much more anxiety, even if swiy doesn't feel anywhere near as tired or start hallucinating after amphetamine comedowns. Although amphetamine binges last muchhhhhhhhhh longer for swim 'cause he can stay up way longer on amphetamine.

[Dexyfiend]

...Yes

[yaba]

Swim can't stand it anymore ! Years ago he was alright but now.. He doesn't take any coke/crack because it reminds him of the horrible comedowns he used to have. And when he is in Thailand and smokes yaba or meth he buys some alprazolam as he cant do it anymore....!

So think swim is to old now 10 years ago he could go without sleep for 5 nights and still be OK ish.. Now he would only take stimulants when he has a benzo or a sleeper.

[Grabnar]

swim never had problems with come down from amphetamines , swims adderall habit lasted 4 years legally/nonlegally both, Swim also had large supply of percocet 10mg as well throughout that time, swim thinks everyones different b/c swim has a friend who has smoked meth for 2 weeks and now sees bugs and swim has had longer binges than that w/o those sort of effects

[cra$h]

every time swim goes on a binge, he'll crash saying never again, I've got to stop. it'll last a month or so, then he's offered something cheap, and does it all over again. the phases come and go, and the comedown is a hell of a lot shorter than the "high", so sometimes it's worth it, sometimes it's not. overall, it is, but it's close, and side effects are almost directly related to the high.

[SmokeRings]

SWIMs crashes from coke were horrendous, but meth, not the same for her at all. Coke would make her clench her jaw, think about constantly, not able to relax, even when smoking ridiculous amounts of mj. Meth on the other hand, SWIM likes that at the end of an evening (or even a 2 day binge, no more than that w/out sleep for SWIM) she quite enjoys cozying up on the couch, or in bed and watches TV and is just fine. Sure, she's awake and it takes several hours to relax, but it's not in her head, she's happy and content.
Funny how there is so much variance per person. Goes to show that one's chemistry has a LOT to do with their reaction to drugs, not just stimulants!
SWIM can also put the meth away, when she did coke, it was DO IT ALL, every 20 minutes, there was no saving. SWIM thinks she'd actually turn down coke if it were right in front of her!

[dark12]

The amphetamine high definitely worth the crash, according to SWIM.

This may be because SWIM does not see amphetamine as a recreational drug. For SWIM, it is a tool that helps him push his body harder than it is supposed to be pushed.
For example, SWIM gets home from work feeling completely drained and knows he won't have the energy or focus to do well on his big chemistry exam in 12 hours. SWIM now has a routine of between 40 and 70mg of Dexedrine(dextroamphetamine) to help him through the night and well into the next day. Obviously he is going to feel horrible the next day, but it is always worth the extra points on his exams.

Yea, the crash sucks. But if it wasn't worth the benefits he would never take it in the first place.

[pixilated1]

SWIM doesn't mind coming off regular speed binges, wherein she's been smart enough to get a bit of sleep, a bit of food, and vitamins.

When coming down off a 'bad' speed binge, in which she neglected to take care of herself in even the most cursory ways, SWIM feels like a moron (which she is).

SWIM now has a detailed list of "speed binge rules." Others have joked it would be much easier to just abstain... But SWIM obviously disagrees.

[Moonage Daydream]

The crash just gets worse every time, exponentially it almost seems to my cheetah, though she does have a penchant for exaggeration. She still does it though, and the mental pain is lessened by eating something easy like fruit or ice cream

[Codehead]

When done rarely then yes. It leaves SWIM apathy, tired and bored, overall depressed. Not even MJ and benzos won't help much.

[Narcoticated]

SWIM told me this story..

"Ugh, I remember my first ritalin binge. Stayed up for at least 40 hours and then went to my overnight shift at petro. Of course the start of that shift is where I experienced my first ever "dead-end" amphetamine crash. I didn't think there was any way I was gonna make it through that shift. Took a few xanax and lay down on the counter through most of the shift, forcing myself to get up for the odd customer who came in. May have gotten a total of 10 mins sleep, but either way, the resting helped 'cause I felt better toward the morning.

I learned my lesson after that. Well, I did. Then eventually I stopped ritalin for 2 months and started again (just recently) and of course I'm doing the same stupid binging I did when I first started. But I'll learn again. Already starting to.

Gotta love the endless cycle of stimulant addiction.."

[tyranny4u]

As tt doesn't do meth but amphetamine "only", he almost comes down
without problems. compared to iv'ing cocaine this is pretty harmless,
and tt is older now and doesn't tweak until breakdown.

[soma]

SWIM says only if he has beta blockers and copious doses of benzos

[teagy]

SWIM will consume about 10 grams of street amp over a 24 hr period the high depends on the quality SWIM bombs it in a rizla paper SWIM starts with a large dose and increase it till its all gone SWIM loves the highs and hates the long grind to recovery SWIM does not see it as a bad thing the pleasure n pain thing SWIM says it reminds him what shit it is a how its goin be 2 or 3 weeks before he takes a long weekend off work for his next amp session
ps first time i have posted hope i wrote it ok

[anonuser30500]

Originally Posted by teagy

SWIM will consume about 10 grams of street amp over a 24 hr period the high depends on the quality SWIM bombs it in a rizla paper SWIM starts with a large dose and increase it till its all gone SWIM loves the highs and hates the long grind to recovery SWIM does not see it as a bad thing the pleasure n pain thing SWIM says it reminds him what shit it is a how its goin be 2 or 3 weeks before he takes a long weekend off work for his next amp session
ps first time i have posted hope i wrote it ok

Ten grams? Even for a binge that is in the top 0000.whatever of hard users.

The quality must be pretty low, because if that speed was even half decent, using that much in 24 hours would be a serious risk taking adventure. Swim would expect most people would be rushed to hospital using that amount. Seriously, if Swim ate ten grams, he would be mortified and scared.

Swim would say that even in the most insane of situations, back in the day, the pack would generally be hard pressed to take 3-5 grams of speed. In fact, speed is often unpredictable stuff, and in Swims day most was decent but now and again one came along whereby just half a gram would keep you up for 48 hours.

Even in the prime of youth, able to recover fast and hard, Swim and the pack all report the worse drug comedown was speed, everytime!

Swim would assume that many who vote the high is worth it will be younger. The Swiy aged 19-25, is going to recover a lot faster than Swiys who are over 30 for example. Over 40, most speed users will be addicts only, as most still into a recreational buzz went to coke a long time ago. It is possible some may 'come back to the speed fold' with coke now garbage and E pretty much dismal. RCs command a big audience, but speed actually looks good when you compare it to mephedrone and so on.

But that's another thread perhaps.

Swim would imagine that half a gram of good speed would keep Swim up all night, and entail a recovery period which was 3-5 days long. And that's just the physical recovery.

Mentally, speed is a real bad-un. Initially it can seem a 'good idea' if your maybe socially shy, a little down, not quite social enough and so on. A real confidence booster but like all powdered versions of confidence, when you stop, that confidence often stops also!

Anyway, good luck and use a lot less of that speed!